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I considered this too. The thing that made all of this seem plausible is that since Isis started to release all this information, there has been a resurgence of fans and followers in the hipster and artist community. In the main post I reference Isis' book description from Amazon that lists Rick Rubin as a recent devotee or at least a fan of the Source Family, citing them as inspiration and even dressing and looking like Father Yod. Rick of course collaborated with Lana before on Paradise. I would bet Lana is well aware of the cult and how it has influenced LA culture. Whether or not she used it as inspiration is what I'm interested in. There are definitely some connections here, and I don't necessarily think they are 100% solid but they are interesting to discuss nonetheless.

I don't know if I am the first to link the two, maybe? But thank you dear. Mostly I'm just happy that you all are confirming there could be a connection here and I'm not crazy lol

Right there with ya, love. All I want to do is go home and investigate more lol. Stupid work I'm definitely going to send her the UV single to see what she says. I've got some updating to do on the main post too so hopefully I can get to that tonight I'm so happy you all are as interested in this as I am.

Not going to lie, I had a mini fan girl freakout when she added me back lol. Ever since I've delved into the Source world, I've become a bit obsessive, trying to get my hands on any information I can and reading every article I can find. Isis has become as important to me as Lana at this point and I have so much respect for her. I'll keep everyone posted with what I can find out but as she is in her 70's now I want to show her as much respect as possible and take my time with it. I know you guys will understand that So yes absolutely I will volunteer to liason with Isis. It just might take a while lol

She added me as a friend last night. I'm working on it but it might take a while. I have a lot of respect for this woman so I don't want to rush it.

This is also a quote from one of her favourite movies, True Romance! Clarence says it in like the couple of minutes! Great post @!!!

I google mapped it and Santa Clarita is about 40 minutes from Nichols Canyon (where the family's second house was located) and Loz Feliz (the first one). It's also definitely at Nichols Cayon as you can see the trees in the upper left corner of this picture here: I'm betting those trees and that look is something popular for landscaping in the LA area lol Oh well...

Thanks babe! You da bestest 100% this! Do we have a resident Los Angelian that could do some super sneaky reconnaissance for us? I would but Canada is pretty fuckin' far and I don't know when I'll be in Cali again (probably a long while boo!) I also realised that the lyrics "Lay me down tonight in my linen and curls, I'm your favorite girl" is in Ultraviolence too so those trees could be significant to either FMWttT or UV. Funny that most of the ladies in the Source family wore either linen or velvet and left their hair au natural in curls (when they had them, Robin especially). I wish we could get a hold of one of the former members and ask their opinion on all of this...

Thank you my dear!

She probably didn't have her hard drive hacked (so dramatic Lana!). She probably had her iTunes broadcasting over wifi... So easy to steal songs off of other people's computer. I used to do it all the time when I lived in the dorms. Great thread @@SitarHero!

@ @ @@yourdangerousgirl @@Nastja A more thorough discussion about The Source Family and Lana is here: http://lanaboards.com/index.php?/topic/5081-the-source-family-ultraviolence-lana-del-rey/

From IMDB: The Source Family was a radical experiment in '70s utopian living. Their outlandish style, popular health food restaurant, rock band, and beautiful women made them the darlings of Hollywood’s Sunset Strip; but their outsider ideals and the unconventional behavior of their spiritual leader, Father Yod, caused controversy with local authorities. Before we journey down the rabbit hole that is the Source Family, their leader Father Yod and the influence all of this may have had on Lana Del Rey and her album Ultraviolence, here is some background information of who they were and what they did: There are also many excellent articles on Jim Baker, Father Yod and the Family available online. While I will be linking some of them here as references, I will mostly be focusing on the Family and their own personal interpretations of what was going on during the time they were active as I believe this is where Lana gathered most of her inspiration from. There are a lot of negative articles written about what actually was going on behind closed doors at the Family homes and while I'm sure some may be accurate, and will lend support to some theories, the writers of the articles were not a part of the Family and did not experience first hand what went on. While most former Family members do have criticism toward Jim Baker, the man, they speak very highly of Father Yod as their Earthly Spiritual Father, enough so that I don't doubt they would embellish. I recommend reading all evidence and articles with a grain of salt as all of it is personal anecdotes and there is no solid facts to back up any claims made. I encourage every member of Lana Boards to dig in and discover any other pieces of evidence you may find regarding this topic. I will add to this post as new evidence is found with credit to the finder! Here is the original post that I made in the Ultraviolence lyrics thread so please have a look at that for an idea of what started all of this: http://lanaboards.com/index.php?/topic/4684-ultraviolence/?p=198053 So hopefully now you have an idea of the Family, we'll jump into the evidence we have. Some of it will be stuff that I and other users have already posted on the UV thread, some will be new. Please note, this section will be updated as more info is discovered. The Source Family and their Influence on Ultraviolence General Evidence Lyrical Evidence While I believe some songs on UV are inspired by the Source Family, I don't think that all songs were inspired by them. So you won't see Old Money on this list for example, as it is clearly written for the Great Gatsby, inspired by the character of Daisy and written as an epilogue to Lana's Young and Beautiful. I also believe Lana is inspired from many different things and she weaves them into her own story, either by becoming who she is writing about or imagining herself in a similar situation. She has said before that is in the habit of writing about several things in a song and tying them all together. For example, Video Games being about two different men, etc. So while some lyrics fit the Source theory, others will not as they are probably influenced either by her life or something else. Cruel World Ultraviolence Shades of Cool Brooklyn Baby Aesthetic Evidence This section is about the pictures used for Ultraviolence vs pictures from The Source Family Archives as well as the soundscape Dan Auerbach and Lana came up with. Lana had stated that her new take on the UV album was "Unlistenable" with many different sounds, tempo changes, etc. Some of the Ya Ho Wha recordings sound very similar to how Lana re-did UV with the layered sounds, experimental vocals and tempo changes. Sound Visuals As I stated above I will continue updating this post with more evidence as I find it. Please feel free to post any similarities you might find and I will happily add it with credit to you!

Tomorrow my dear! Sorry it's been a hectic week

Will do! Give me a couple days to gather my evidence and I'll post in the Lana Thoughts forums!

Wow! This is great findings everyone! Very interesting! another tidbit that stuck out to me like a sore thumb: I also read that Yod like to record his music in one take, never practicing or rerecording as it was more pure and a channel 'direct' from God then. Sounds like someone we know with her practice of recording everything in one take eh? Ah all of this is fitting way too perfectly, have we found the mysterious truth behind Ultraviolence? Lol I think I should make a Source Family mega post because I'm finding more and more connections to other songs and Lana in general as well not just with Ultraviolence. Would you all be interested in that?

This is getting very interesting. Apparently The Source family still exists in an underground movement with people like Billy Corgan and Devendra Banhart. It's all very hipster: http://www.kcet.org/arts/artbound/counties/los-angeles/meet-the-new-aquarians.html I also listened to a bunch of the music the Source made with Yod (apparently they recorded 65 records in 5 years and they only released 9) and it sounds an awful lot like what Lana and Dan did with Ultraviolence (the album) in terms of sound and being "unlistenable". Lots of strange beats and layered sounds, jazz influence and indecipherable lyrics. Lana's sounds a lot more like music of course but the similarities are there none the less and it's quite obvious. I don't know, I wouldn't put it past her to join a "dead" underground cult in LA... Didn't she say she wanted to join a hippy artist commune recently??

Sorry, this is going to be a long one lol bear with me here..... So I was watching a documentary about this hippie cult in the 70s in LA called the Source Family. While watching I couldn't help but be slapped in the face with how well it fit in with Ultraviolence. I was connecting dots like a motherfucking pro. I recommend watching it to see what I mean (it's on Netflix USA), or you could read these reviews here to get the gist:.. http://www.bostonglobe.com/arts/movies/2013/05/09/movie-review-the-source-family-crunchy-cult-story/YAGpjim%202kJkLXDVZSE1xeD29L/story.html http://thehairpin.com/2013/05/the-source-family Basically Jim Baker was a very handsome, very charismatic, but notoriously violent man that ran away from his wife and child to LA and founded this cult as Father Yod and had many beautiful young men and women join him to live in "peace, love, drugs and rock and roll". He was popular within Hollywood and was very rich and even robbed banks to fund his vegan restaurant, psychedelic band and his "family"..."He basically turned Sex Drugs and Roll and Roll into a religion" is a quote (paraphrasing) from the film. Kinda sounds like the same church Lana would subscribe to... From the doc, the first things that popped out at me were: 1) "He used to call me DN that stood for Deadly Nightshade" sounds just like the people in the documentary talking about their hippie names and what they were called in the commune. Names like Galaxy, Orbit, Harvest Moon, Sunflower etc... 2) All the references to violence, hitting, etc fit with Jim Baker's history of violence, although I don't know if he was inclined to hit women... 3) Quite obviously.... "You're my cult leader" = Father Yod 4) The way she's talking about her Jim in the song is nearly identical to former members of the Source describing what it was like to be around their Jim, saying it was like they felt like they were kids again with him being their really cool rich foster dad who smoked a lot of drugs and lived a hedonistic and open lifestyle. The conditions they lived in despite the cult having lots of money, was near squalor with people living in cubby holes and in some instances being denied medical attention and treatment as it went against their beliefs. A child even reportedly died after being denied treatment for an infection. Jim was very strict with all of his commandments despite all the love he had for his "children". He even broke his own commandment of one woman for every one man when he decided to be polygamous and his original cult wife Ah-Om (aka Robin) said she felt as if he "had skinned her alive" when he took 13 wives. His treatment of Robin was very poor but even now she speaks highly of him and that her love for him took on an otherworldly dimension that was out of her control and listening to her talk about him is very similar to how Lana sings about her Jim in UV. I think the inspiration from the Source Family could also bleed into the rest of the album, lending to the Southern California psychedelic surf twang throughout, even referencing the polygamy that was going on in SoC: "And when he calls. He calls for me and not for you" and what Father Yod was all about:.. "He prays for love, he prays for peace.And maybe someone new" There might be connections in other songs, I'm still slowly working my way through the album and to be honest I still have the first 5 songs on repeat, so I'm not as familiar with the rest of the album. Oh and I know it probably doesn't mean anything but they reference taking "Black Beauties" in the movie about 10 minutes in. And with this recent instagram selfie with Chuck with the caption "Sister Wives" the Source just fits a little too well: http://instagram.com/p/pF6jVgiZvj/ Not only is Sister Wives a polygamy term, they're even dressed like Father Yod's wives. In fact I'd say Lana's really leaning towards a 70s flower child look this era, wouldn't you? Oh and not to mention... Yod/Jim fits Lana's Daddy type to a tee. Heck they even called him that! (lol Barrie and his beard actually look like a member of the cult tbh) Some pictures.... I don't think all songs are necessarily related to the Source but I think Lana may have been heavily influenced by them along with Jim Morrison, Kurt, Chet Baker, Jim Jones, Jim Beam, etc, and from her own life. Especially since the documentary came out in 2012 when she probably would have started to conceive what her next album would be. I also believe that she took influence from her own experience with Atlantic Group and how she relates that to the 70s cult experience. To be honest, sometimes I feel like Lana writes songs like she's posting to Tumblr or Pintrest or some shit. Just name checking all the things that influence her and weaving a story around them. Like she's writing her own fan fiction through songs. Actually I still think all the songs written around "Every Man Gets His Wish" are about Lana's life as if it were blended with the movie True Romance. She even took a picture of her and Mike M. compared to Clarence and Alabama so clearly she is identifying with the Character there. It's basically her own blend of reality and fanfiction. But that's a post for another thread lol... Anyway before I go on and on, because I could with all these "connections" I found in this doc...Has anyone else seen The Source and what are your thoughts on this?

That's Arrivals baby, he was just landing in LA. I also think that Lana's quote was taken out of context, AGAIN. Wasn't it a translation from a translation anyway?

I honestly love you for this post!!!

That's fucking lame.

Apparently Tim released the audio??? I'm at work so I can't check but Rolling Stone just posted something on their Facebook about the audio being released from the interview!!

I'm getting strong Lolita vibes from this video...

Also, aren't Taylor and Jaime King besties now since January?? And Lana pretty much dropped out of Jaime's life. That, to me is incredibly weird.

THAT makes me mad. He spent all that time pretending to be nice to her, to trick Lana into opening up to him. And then he turned around and used it out of context for click bait. What a horrible thing to do to someone, no wonder Lana has such spite for their breed. It's too bad this article is in Norwegian, I feel it would draw more attention in English

Abrahm Hicks isn't a cult. It's a self help book which plays into self-spiritualism. Nothing about it is organized and it focuses mostly on working within yourself, not other people. In fact you can do the entire Abraham Hicks method on your own. no one else is required for it to work. Also, I agree with the "Cult" being AG. It just fits so well. The posts she wrote way back when (around the same time the sex scandal broke in Washington I think) fit with the timeline. Did she say she was in the cult for 7 years though? I think Lana is like my boyfriend and just absolutely horrible about estimating time (ie. when he says that we've been talking about something on the phone for 20 min when in actuality it has been 5 and my phone even shows how long we've been talking for yet he still won't acknowledge he is wrong lol) so I can see why her timeline is all screwy. 7 years might actually be 4, knowing her.