Rorman Nockwell

Agreed, but no one is going to say anything. It seems like most of the people around her walk on eggshells and/or are the kind of people who wouldn't have a problem with this.

I have no words, just

Exactly. I mean, if someone wants to discuss some other aspect of the album, then I'm sure the rest of us will join in. However, shit like, "Oh my Goddddddd I just realised how AMAZING Fuck It I Love You is. She really did THAT. I listened to it whilst hanging upside down in the rafters in my grandmother's BARN in Wisconsin and OH MY GOD" doesn't exactly stimulate the conversation. I'm not saying that people can't, or shouldn't, make such comments, but ... I don't get why people are trying to shut down a discussion in this thread while simultaneously not contributing anything to it?

Bro .... what? This is an incredibly ignorant and disturbing post, and tbh I don't even know where to start. You seem to be of the opinion that murdering animals for food is necessary, and it fucking isn't. "There is no downside to it". What the fuck? Aside from the obvious downside that BILLIONS of innocent creatures lose their lives, animal agriculture is THE biggest contributor to climate change. I'm sorry, but you need to go away and educate yourself.

I think that comment is due to the fact that people in this fan base have a tendency to gloss over absolutely everything she does. It's just too inconvenient for some to accept that the woman they stan and revolve their entire existence around isn't really that wonderful of a person, especially lately.

So what's this phase called? "Fuck The Environment - And All The Beautiful Creatures In It"?

The links to the products are in Elle's original post.

Okay, but you're at the other end of the spectrum in that you can't see anything wrong in anything she does, ever. It's not really any better. In fact, I'd argue that it's worse. If you seriously think it's okay for Lana (or, anyone - but more so Lana because she can literally afford to buy just about anything) to be shopping for fur and animal skin products in 20-fucking-19, then you're just as bad as she is. Stick your head in the sand, though, by all means.

Agreed. Not surprised, just disappointed. Flying around in her private jet ... shopping for leather and fur ... playing an environmental festival in Paris next June. K, Lanz.

Of course you are, Valerie. Oops, I mean Lillian.

I oppose both.

Fucking charming, isn't it? But plenty of people on this board won't want to know about this and/or will defend it, of course.

Oh, so she cut an NFR song - one of the best from that album, no less - from the set list of the NFR tour, instead of any of the BTD songs she's been singing for the past seven years? I see.

That discussion was ended by a moderator. But thanks for coming in here just to kick me some more. Appreciated. There is a difference between expecting something to happen and wanting something to happen. One person taking another's words and twisting them doesn't make the sentiment true. I wish nothing but the best for Lana. To everyone I offended or upset: I unreservedly apologise. I fucked up. I'm fucked up. Sorry. Peace. Love. Later <3

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