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I'm not dragging, but Florence's poetry is wayyyyy more polished than Lanz's. I can't imagine her doing a book like that.

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She was so obsessed with it and now it's figuratively (and probably literally) thrown in the corner.

Yeah given that she's just announced 10 new shows and has an awful new boyfriend, it's safe to say she has other things on her mind. This ain't happening.

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Okay but people shouldn't have to lower their expectations just because she hates it or whatever. She needs to do better. I'm not even talking about this show specifically, but there have definitely been shows on this tour where she's been lacklustre. People are spending their time and money to see a professional singer. They shouldn't be leaving shows feeling as if she didn't give 100%, and that is what's happening. I feel that her laziness (or whatever it is that causes this attitude that she brings to some shows) is way past the point of being endearing. As I've said before, she's coming off to me as rather diva-ish nowadays in general.

Bartender is still on 80, gyu had it at 79 but also deducted a point from MAC, so Correct standings: Norman Fucking Rockwell - 8 Mariners Apartment Complex - 16 Venice Bitch - 20 California - 18 Bartender - 80

This. I don't know how else to explain and this discussion keeps going around and around, so: Remember in primary school when you'd do a history project and you'd use teabags to discolour the edges of the paper to give it that aged look? You added an intentional imperfection to ADD to your project. Okay, well ... The volume changes in HTD (for example) are akin to your grandfather spilling his tea all over said history project on the morning it's due. It's an imperfection, but it wasn't intentional, and it doesn't ADD anything to the project, it detracts. There ARE intentional imperfections that you could argue ADD to the vibe of the album or whatever, but there are also blatant, lazy, technical errors. There is a difference between the two, so stop excusing the latter by pretending that they are the former. I get that some people here can't accept that Jack and/or sis aren't perfect, but Jesus.

Norman Fucking Rockwell - 7 (-) Mariners Apartment Complex - 18 Venice Bitch - 19 California - 18 Bartender - 80 (+)

Ahem. [Talking about bad coffee] "I won't name the city but I was in a certain place a week ago annnnd ..." https://youtu.be/LD9wZxYfD0c?t=50 ... Imagine how sad he is. https://www.vancouverisawesome.com/2019/10/01/lana-del-rey-superfan-vancouver-cafe-matcha-latte/

Oh my God I'm so scared to click on her interviews nowadays ... "By the way, with that album cover, I was going back and forth on the font a lot ... because it was kind of ... I didn't think it quite matched the title ..." "...but in the end we just thought it was cool." She ... powerlifts? "I'd be happy doing almost anything nowadays" Clearly.

I gave up trying to hear that shit after 30 seconds, so thanks for the summary. But ... She'd like to steer away from the sound of NFR now? Last week she said she wanted to stay in the same realm.

Oh yeah. She seemed upset at that show, and at the Seattle one. She's just announced, what, 10 more shows for next month? Will be interesting to see how those go.

Which show did you attend, out of curiosity?

Pipe dream. Her being so blissfully unaware of why it makes other fans unhappy (or being aware and not caring) is just classic Lanz. There's definitely some other factor, though. At least one of the stories I heard involved him being kicked out of a queue by security but somehow still ending up centre barricade. I really think she, or someone close to her, intervenes for him to get barricade at every single show. However, as I've said before, he's far from the only fan who behaves ... questionably in queues and at shows, so I take issue with her, not him. I do not understand how he openly tweets pics of joints, poppers, etc that he's taking to shows, and nobody has ratted on him, though. I'm not saying they should, because fuck that - only that I'm surprised nobody has considered how hated he is.

Regardless, I really don't think she'd do that, but I didn't think she'd do a lot of things, so

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I think we can rule that out; she would not be vaping whilst pregnant. Her career would be over.

She's forgetting them more frequently, though. I mean, forgetting MAC is just crazy to me; she sings it at every show. Not sure about other instances of spacing out but like ... it's the Grammys Museum ... her mind should've been on the job. This isn't a drag. I'm concerned. Maybe there is more to this and the apparent "lies" she tells than meets the eye.

I'm gonna say it: I don't know that I find it amusing that she's forgetting lyrics constantly and spacing out. It's a bit concerning, honestly.

We're only messin' around. Chill. As @ said, she looks like she's going to play tennis aboard the Titanic. Thinking about ... groceries?

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LMAO https://twitter.com/swiftlydinah/status/1183621381201645568

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