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My entire point above was this exactly. She, LDR, queen of the gayz, is going to a church commonly known to be homophobic (supports conversion therapy and explicitly doesnt allow gays in leadership positions) - and has provided no context or info for her opinion on the whole thing. Does she have to? absolutely not, she can do whatever she wants. Is silence about gay issues a historically very common and easy way to ignore LGBTs and perpetuate homophobia? Yes. The silence is what enables the violence. Lana doesnt have to be outspoken or make any sort of statement (she cant even comment on if NFR exists, apparently), but until she does, in my eyes, she doesn't give a fuck about gay people or gay lives who have incidentally made her famous. and i know some people on here wish she jsut wouldnt say anything, and i half agree, because i think i already know intuitively where she actually stands. i'm not declaring Lana to be this or that as a fact. but i'm saying, i thought she was something that she doesn't appear to be. does it matter? no. this is a LDR fan site. is it okay for people to have varying perspectives and share them? yes. is it okay for people to comment on others' perspectives? yes. this is not about hate or whatever. it's a discussion. ultimately, for me, i was only here in hopes that NFR would leak and yall would be the first to know. then i got dragged into the drama and discussion about these topics bc i think it's interesting. Lana del rey? As for Churchome receipts - https://www.churchclarity.org/updates/church-clarity-profile-churchome "Since we could not find any indication of its actively enforced policy for LGBTQ on churchome’s website, so we have scored this church’s website as Undisclosed, the least clear score a church can receive." <----the SILENCE that enables discrimination and homophobia.

as per usual, i'm afraid youve missed the point.

See, here's my issue. I knew she was influencing by Catholic imagery and shit, but I really did not think she was actually christian. With songs like Gods and Monsters and the tongue-in-cheek way she portrayed God and religion in Tropico, and how she made Religion the song about a guy, I thought that she was really not into the actual christian religion like that. But yeah, maybe that makes me a joke for thinking better of her when I shouldnt have. If you wanna pretend people can literally align themselves with an institution or scripture that declares people and nature are inherently evil and require some Big Daddy in the sky to redeem them through blood sacrifice and cannibalism, and NOT be fucked up, okay. Whatever. That's your prerogative, but it's moronic to not even dig that deep when it's so in your face. I'm not "letting" Lana do anything. She doesnt need my permission (obvs) to do anything, and I dont need her permission to have an opinion about church or her music or her celebrity. Let me talk trash on a myopic homophobic pop star with too much money, it doesnt mean i hate every aspect of her being.

so the girl wearing a rainbow tank top is supposed to be pro-gay? LOL. how about a gay couple? gays holding hands? that's way more Gay than a rainbow. what a joke. honey, the BIBLE is homophobic, among other horrible things. i have read the bible. do i need to drag out the verses i usually save for christians who havent read their holy book? Church claiming the Bible is true / the Word of God = homophobic. Church not claiming the Bible is true = not Christian

tbh i really have to get off this forum. i dont think my relationship with this (potentially imaginary) album is good for me HAHA. Lana songs keep coming on different CDs i burned in my car, and i'm like.. damn this puta's music really went there and now i dont even want to listen to it, so i skip. i think she was fake af the whole time. that's the only sane reason i can see for her acting so different and vapid now. then again, Lana has said herself she's not sane. but fr, the bitch might as well be blatantly homophobic. like, sorry bout it, but if youre going to homophobic churches (or really any church that sees the very misogynistic, homophobic, anti-indigenous, anti-pagan, anti-witch, anti-sex Bible as true or worthwhile) and youre going to hotels owned by countries that literally stone gays, and you dedicate a video about Love to your fans and exclude anything but straight white American love -- no. you are not just "playing coy." Homophobia has been able to hold so strong in this world because people don't talk about it. Until recent history, people arent even supposed to talk about LGBT people or issues at all, or about sex, or about the violent history of genocide and slavery that created the nation Lana wants to worship for its aesthetic by wearing Indian headdresses as a slap in the face to surviving Indian people. i should have known back then and not made excuses for her. so someone who has gotten famous off their gay fans' attention and money then doesnt even have the spine to address gay issues even a little bit is just as bad as a homophobe to me. LGBT people get killed, even in the West, pretty commonly. We are still a marginalized group that is more likely to be poor, attacked, killed, incarcerated, homeless, unemployed, or prone to suicide than the general population. We know we exist. We know society is not set up for us to thrive. All these straight supremacists going about their lives never acknowledging we even exist IS homophobia. The silence is what allows the violence to happen, when any sort of group is under attack.

if the Love was really dedicated to her fans (including LGBTQs), maybe there'd be the tiniest ounce of gay shit in the video, but there's not. Just a massive dose of basic straight white couples smiling vaguely at each other and taking cues from Lana like they all know that really people are supposed to be straight, and that straight love is genuinely the only kind that matters or is significant, and they'll all be going to the church barbeque once they get off the moon. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

"lately ive been feeling like it's someone else's job to care" <---well this puta is not doing her job (AKA releasing good non-christian music), so maybe its time to start caring

how tf is the church gonna help with that?? churches pretend to be charitable and all, but look at their heinous scripture, look at their core tenets, look at the homeless problem, even specifically in LA. there's no caring for the downtrodden, poor, or needy around there. they (Christians, or anyone who claims the Bible is true / the word of god) want to pretend gays dont exist (i.e. kill them) and they want women to sit down and shut up. it's literally in the scripture. and that's not even mentioning the history of the church's relationship with genocide and slavery! exactly - fuck all of them. i know that's not what you meant, but you brought up an excellent point. why are we allowing these institutions and their followers who have damaged so many lives to still have this kind off free pass? i think we should cancel every artist that attends any kind of church that pretends the Bible is here to help people while ignoring the actual history. this, and same

ok i have a theory and this is a wild one - maybe azealia banks actually cursed her? everything was fine until right around when they got in that spat and look at Lana now. btw, my stan card is officially burnt. Lana can go choke on a box of rocks. i hope her parents and family disown her and she becomes homeless, i hope it's extremely hard for her to find a job because everyone keeps clocking her, and i hope the church tells her that God thinks she's evil and will never accept or love her, and i hope Cha Cha Matcha bans her for indecent behavior, i hope that someone tries to forcibly convert her back to being a bad bitch, and i hope multiple countries around the world institute laws where you can be stoned and killed for being a dumb basic matcha sipping bad fashion loser. i can think of certain groups who already go through that, but Lana doesnt care about them. MAYBE she will understand why she's such a dumbass for getting rich and famous off of gays' love for her and then stabbing us all in the back because she's ignorant and apathetic. hope is a glorious thing for anyone to have, and i have it, but Lana Del Rey does not have it. she wants to have hope, but she's stuck in an ugly, basic, soulless, LA white girl rabbit hole. she has no hope for this world or for her future. she's a basic and selfish, and now mediocre used-to-be pop star, and i hope she fades to oblivion. she should try actually living in the trailer park and dancing for money instead of just pretending - then she can wow the world with her authenticity

she looks lost

someone said that in order to be a True Beautiful Woman™ the part where your ears meet your head should be exactly level with the middle of your eye. never heard that before, and somehow it makes less sense to me than Lana deciding to be a Cancer

i meant no shade to you or Geminis at all, and im sorry if it came off that way!! from my experience with only the geminis i know personally, it's less about being a two faced awful bitch (the most negative stereotype of gemini) and more just being able to be flexible with putting on different faces to communicate to different people in different circumstances. i think that honestly can be a huge strength, and i think Lana has exemplified that in her career by kind of showing her different "faces" thru the diff eras. BTD as Hollywood Starlet lolita from the hood, UV as suburban dragon blues singer, LFL as classic Cali hippie in space, etc. All of these communicate a distinct message and are completely different, but they are all at the core, very obviously Lana Del Rey albums. that's how i see Gemini, in my personal (very humble and not forcing it on anyone) opinion. and of course, the zodiac does not apply for everyone, and even if it was set in stone - with all the planets and asteroids in a different sign/house, theres way more at play than just what someone's sun sign (bday sign) is. im mostly just going through a music drought in my life right now and was ready for Norman Fucking Roswell release back in February so i've been basically just sleeping in my clown makeup and slathering more on each morning

ok i have been dealing with the lack of NFR info or music. i have avoided listening to snippets, MAC, VB, Hope, etc. for weeks now in hopes the album will be fresh when/if it comes. i have tried to handle my Lanaboards meltdowns as best I can -- but this is the final straw. I have had it, officially. Lana claiming to be a Cancer all of a sudden after years of being an exemplar Gemini is the most fucking Gemini thing I can think of a Gemini doing. and Scorpio rising?? Lana? i mean, where is the edge? where is the bite? where is her pointed opinion? is this why she keeps her hair dark now? as a Scorpio rising, i have to say -- every Scorpio rising i know has serious "dont fuck with me" mystique, is unable to avoid rubbing people the wrong way, and leads to polarized interactions. or wait, maybe that is Lana?... i suppose she does wear her heart on her sleeve and always seems to be seeking a home, which is Cancerian af. and i guess i can def see the 10th house Leo moon thing from early Lana driven for success, but these days??? she just cant be bothered to even shine that sort of star light she used to, and the majiqal juices are flowing hard right now so theres no excuse. damn maybe we have never really known her at all. i cannot. truly an enigma. maybe the bitch is scorpio rising and just likes to keep us on our toes never knowing whats really in her head. someone make this make sense to me ps. only a taurus rising could be so transformatively obsessed with sipping that sweet green cha cha matcha

Delay Del Rey, i'm dying i heard Lana is set to perform first glimpses of her upcoming album Norman Fucking Rockwell at the first concert on Mars in 2033 after they leave scorched earth to all us fuckers who cant afford a luxury rocket

i believe in the album that Norman Fucking Rockwell used to be... I believe in the album I want it to become. when i'm at war with myself (and/or the Rockwell estate, Interscope management, Billie Eyelash, the world around me) ... i .. cry. i just cry. who are you? are you in touch with the snippets that may never become real full songs? have you created a life for yourself where you can experience them? i have... i am fucking crazy. but i will listen to NFR... for free

damn i cant believe i wasnt here for political commentary day.. are you seriously defending the righteousness and inevitability of a culture built by wealthy white western men on the backs of all the people they enslaved/employed to spread rampant materialism and resulting wildly unsustainable industrialism at a rapid and exponentially increasing pace until the entire world is finally mapped out, developed, stripped of all indigenous people or rights of nature, and turned into plastic bullshit to get thrown away in the trash can outside cha cha matcha?? are you ignoring the fact that modern gender roles are, in fact, a product of this same society, and that many indigenous tribes across the globe PRE-colonization were often matriarchal, women ran shit and owned shit, and what would now be seen as LGBT people were also honored and respected?? and just saying "uh excuse me, white men built computers so you can complain about NFR on Lanaboards, show some appreciation" is bullshit bc MILLIONS OF DEAD AND LIVING INDIGENOUS PEOPLE AND WORKERS AND POOR FOLK didnt ask for any of this, much less see it as the way things ought to be... and so much of this is built on pervasive male supremacy and the conditioned preference for western white male wendigo ideals. just because you arent noticing it doesnt mean its not going on. how dare you. and ill see myself out, #freeNFR

i really need to know: was she or was she not ever actually a go go dancer?

is this that moment where high fashion decides that low fashion is high fashion?? with the Met Gala ruining the "camp" theme and Vogue Italia running an LDR as play pretend librarian at some weird modern Grey Gardens (Technicolor Gardens?). whatever theyre trying is failing. i'm not really feeling it tbh. feels like the fashion world is just running out of ideas. meanwhile, no NFR. doesnt Lana understand that poetry is just stripped down music? like to me, music is a more fleshed out, comprehensive form of poetry. so if Lady Gaga fans are "little monsters" and Mariah fans are "lambs" --- are Lana fans just "clowns" or "little fuckers"?

Lana is serving low budget sci-fi porn parody. she is an adult playing dress up in her niece's middle school's theater's costume closet. this whole photoshoot is giving me an alternate timeline where Star Wars was made in some nerd's mom's house on a camcorder, and Lana is where Padme Amidala joined the Sith

Lana Del Rey as tacky robot overlord realness. she is writing her future, and her future does not involve Norman Fucking Rockwell.

im living for the third one omg

doesnt this mean we also owe her nothing? lol. she lives a life of luxury without having to have a 9 to 5 bc she makes beautiful music. whatever people say on the internet will not reach or affect her. meanwhile i am actually very into this shoot. soooo different from what we expect of LDR and not even lazy!! like a futuristic caricature of old time glamour mass produced in a factory. but Where Is NFR

i have to say my only issue with Lana's appearance comes from her fashion choices not her face or body. i just cant get behind the mid-30s sorority girl look.

i think she looks good in these bday photos, but my direct comparison is with the pics of her leaving church soo the bar is set very low this week my only question ab her face is - are we sure its even fillers? maybe shes just livin large with that L.A. life getting take out for every meal and getting thicc?? not that that's even a bad thing. but truly. where is NFR. Lana could get an entirely new face and body and wardrobe designed to look like Carrot Top and i still wouldnt gaf bc i'd be too busy waiting for this damn album lol this is why i stan a 44 year old who still looks 27

if NFR actually gets scrapped... which is looking all too possible unfortunately (tho this is just delusion too since the real Tea is that we have no info at all either way). but if it does, it'll join the ranks of the-best-albums-that-could-have-been-but-never-were like Smile by the beach boys or Black Gold by Jimi Hendrix or Jeff Buckley's second album :/