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Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
divebarsinger replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
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Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
divebarsinger replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
the double video comes out at 8pm, in roughly an hour for the uk people who are sad squares and haven't seen any of the leaks yet due to not knowing how to see them, like me. -
Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
divebarsinger replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
i'd say the poverty issue is relevant but is the tip of the iceberg. sex work is a loaded thing due to its relationship with socioeconomic disadvantage, this means it's often a profession resorted to by trans people and people of colour, even refugees. there's also the relationship to drug use, addiction, sex trafficking and rape. it isn't just "appropriating anything"... it's far more complex -
Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
divebarsinger replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
in tropico i got the impression she was a sex worker. weirdly in the ride video, i..... didn't get the impression she was. i did get the impression she was suggesting she was poor though. think what critical people are talking about here is the relationship between sex work and poverty of which there's a strong link and the glamorisation of it being problematic due to the consequences of it for many people, particularly if they're marginalised -
Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
divebarsinger replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
not really, it's the opposite given I'm not allergic to discussion like many on this site lol just tedious how revealing a lot of people's takes are which are used repeatedly. criticism of lana that verges on the political brings them out in hives and the same reductive tropes are used about "oversensitivity" when it's actually nice to be mindful and observational -
Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
divebarsinger replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
here we go, let's see who's gonna use buzzwords they don't realise were invented by incels and racist grandpas about "PC culture" -
Double Video for ‘Fuck It I Love You’ & ‘The Greatest’ - OUT NOW
divebarsinger replied to Elle's topic in New Releases
i'm kinda relieved she's still hanging around those dive bars in those false lashes- 41 replies
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Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
divebarsinger replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
i am interested to see how this album holds up in 7 or 8 months compared to the others. at the moment i think i'm just hungry for the full tracks and the delays have just made me more eager in some ways. so.. she knows what she's doing imo do have to remind myself of how many countless snippets i've heard and how lyric and production changes may create disappointment. maybe playing devil's advocate here or being pragmatic whatever -
Lana at Lotus Cafe in San Diego, CA - August 18, 2019
divebarsinger replied to Elle's topic in Sightings
have to say, i do admire the fact she's so incredibly not fucked about what she wears day to day. that sounds sarcastic but it really isn't, i dunk on her at times sure but comfort matters to her and i respect that- 8 replies
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Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
divebarsinger replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
lenin is my daddy, engels is my mother, karl marx is my bestest friend -
Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
divebarsinger replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
i'll be damned if i let a poor quality leak and superior original lyrics ruin my meagre enjoyment of the full album after this garbage can of an era goddammit -
Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
divebarsinger replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
hey remember when we were getting a double music video roughly two weeks ago, halcyon days -
Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
divebarsinger replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
i think the only concern really is that by still mentioning and glamorising it she maybe doesn't inherently see class As as a 'bad thing' in the way that she should? like.. i've known addicts and when they've truly been in recovery the idea has disgusted them and they haven't had any romantic notions about it. granted she's a stranger, so you can't really judge accurately. all i'm assuming is that if she is still doing hard drugs they haven't necessarily fucked up her life to the point of no return and the proof in that is her success. heroin and even alcohol are not creative substances -
Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
divebarsinger replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
you're right, i see now why saying "idk i don't feel like smoking weed is particularly a big deal" was worthy of this much bullshit. it was clearly very confrontational on my part -
Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
divebarsinger replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
i mentioned it implied it after you quote posted me? i said my 'original post' wasn't about you, you look very good now spoiling for a fight on a messageboard. i hope you enjoyed it -
Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
divebarsinger replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
oh my god my original post WASN'T AIMED AT YOU IT WAS GENERAL YOU MADE IT ABOUT YOU. fucking hell -
Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
divebarsinger replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
i literally made a rhetorical passing comment to no one in particular that wasn't even accusatory but you took it as so, jesus christ -
Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
divebarsinger replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
cool, thanks for the unneccessary passive aggression xo -
Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
divebarsinger replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
no but i think checking pics of whether she was smoking it with wiz khalifa implies it -
Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
divebarsinger replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
weed though, really?! idk i don't feel like weed is particularly a big deal -
Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
divebarsinger replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
given how much she talks about substances i would agree i think it's unlikely she hasn't done them recently, i also kind of feel like she finds drug culture attractive and that it actually careers into the sexual when it comes to men. i think if we're gonna judge her on lyrics alone (which granted could be reductive) she is very much a nihilist and very unapologetic about that -
Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
divebarsinger replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
that's why i said i appreciate it. isn't that i didn't want to hear it or i wouldn't have said i appreciate it or even played it, just that for me i'd have probably preferred to not have access to the song without the music video. nuance people, christ -
Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
divebarsinger replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
i like the greatest, but i think there'll be other songs i prefer on NFR. obv i appreciate the google play release but i really wanted the impact of hearing it fully for the first time with a music video. this era is this era tho i guess -
Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
divebarsinger replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
the greatest sounds like her 'my way' tbfh -
Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
divebarsinger replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
well throw me around like a hot potato we're back in the swamp of disappointment