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i'm just looking forward to when all this becomes about lana's "oddly positioned ears" again

i'd say self righteous is trying to invalidate someone caring about things just because you don't share that view whilst also heavily implying it was disingenuous due to you personally having little understanding or care for that approach. you've also been extremely patronising without offering much in the way of proper discussion with people perfectly willing to engage with you self righteous here basically means 'having a strong opinion'

if people could read people's posts properly and stop viewing every opinion as a dichotomy of all or nothing it would really help things not becoming a long ass, tedious discussion on this website cos it happens with pretty much everything. the overreactions to people's reactions are also ridiculous

mate you don't even know what fascism and totalitarianism are and you're throwing them around like you do in order to do the same thing. sit down

being open to political discourse and sharing ideas on a platform IS political activity and activism along with all those other things. education can actually be a form of changing consciousness. you think everyone is in a position to promote, impede, direct or intervene and that those are appropriate at every given time?

i suggest you read a book immediately cos i'm sorry to tell you, it's not. it's much worse and a lot of it is already happening

uh.. they're trying to have meaningful discussion with people on here about lana's new politics inspired song whilst everyone else wants to ignore it

don't forget that we only exist within dichotomies to a lot of people on this website. criticising lana means "being angry" "expecting her to be a politician" "feeling owed" "not appreciating the donations from this song" "not being a fan" "bitching" "expecting her to be woke and have a politics degree" "analysing anything deeper than a shallow rock pool is pretending to care" just wanna say i think LFA is a sweet song. i think the fact she's donating proceeds is great, doesn't mean we can't look at it and how it relates to everything culturally though. in her own way she's encouraging that herself

kinda want to remind some of you that suggesting people care about things in order to be 'fake woke' because caring about things is 'inherently bad' is some 4chan incel bullshit too that feeds into the rhetoric which creates things such as mass shooters and an emboldened far right due to the suggestion people caring about others welfare is somehow 'unnatural' and you're ultimately shitting on yourself, particularly if you're part of a marginalised group so good luck with that

i think if she's gonna touch on politics no matter how wistful there's gonna be some political discourse about it, particularly given it's more apt than ever right now unless you're about 12 and can't cope with deeper debate but go off i guess.

no fuck it i love you as well!

no fuck it i love you!!!

there is a weird irony about the lyrics in looking for america given she's attending a christian megachurch with a fuckload of money being pumped into it which operates a bit like a multimillion dollar cult which is pretty much exactly what gave rise to the KKK's second wave and christian fundamentalists during the 20s. idk drag me

oh yeah but like "this was churchome" which is in no way institutionally similar to hillsong and is absolutely devoid of any institutional prejudices, supremacies or absurd capital hoarding which creates any risk of right wing political influence

i totally agree, but remember billie eilish is flying high now too and she's just 17. the industry has changed hugely and it's highly competitive i think a LOT of people forget how lana would be classed as 'old' now when she got famous and she's still doing very similar lyrical content at 34 that she was as lizzy grant at 25. i wouldn't be here if i wasn't a fan but.... realistically?

no. i think she'll probably get more than she has before but i also feel like what's impressive about lorde is how incredible she is given her age. it's cruel and horrible but i think lana's age is also against her in the industry, signed artists are getting younger and younger and i think the pressure to be a 'prodigy' is greater than it ever was

just wanna clarify, i think NFR will probably get her the accolade she potentially wants. i'm not disputing at all that sound wise it's her maturing again. main thing that bothers me is that i think in order to not find it 'samey' you may have to discover it first or even alone, without having much knowledge of her back catalogue. i am aware that it'll make no difference to its success however

yeah. i think what happened for me is that i loved ultraviolence and still do, but i then rediscovered honeymoon last year (when i was uh.. 29) and felt "actually... this record is her maturing and echoes a lot of the old greats. fuck.. why didn't i appreciate it as much at the time."

i mean personally i've never complained about cohesiveness on this forum, hasn't been something that's concerned me. i don't think it's necessarily as black and white as that either. i'm certainly not against her making creative risks, i've always been for it. what i've criticised is her collaborations with singers i've felt have drowned her

what i love about this forum is the initial high of new output from lana followed by the inevitable low. did i enjoy the snippets? a lot initially, do i think there's some good songs on there? absolutely, but the more i've listened..... the more i'm worried the new songs are kinda samey unless i hear the whole thing and become hugely surprised

listened to the snippets and felt kinda emotional you know. cinnamon doesn't sound as drop bass heavy which i'm a little sad about and some of the lyrics seem a bit old news, but hearing the full thing could be very different so i'm not gonna be unfair. i'm very struck and pleasantly surprised by how much her sound has matured and i'm getting very seminal vibes

i know i've mentioned this already but i really hope this is a nod to simon and garfunkel's song america. also its relationship to the film almost famous, for me it's such a perfect continuation. it's like she's taken the idealistic idea of looking for america and applied it to the present

what i enjoy is "we walked off to look for america" is a line from the simon and garfunkel song 'america' and it seems like 'looking for america' is also a potential nod to that, which i think is so her and the fact she consistently credits artists she's influenced by is something i've always liked about her, for all her sins

well throw me around like a hot potato she debuted a new song and the last few pages are full of the usual suspect being suspect. i love you guys xoxo

don't get why she's so into bringing other people into her cover designs this year. like.. i think the witchy coven photo with the dancers and emma tillman would look ok on the back. you could say it was her 'era of collabs'... if there were any on the actual album, which there aren't. makes her come across quite insecure to me actually. though if it'd been her hillsong 'baddie' friends instead i think i'd have lost my mind