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folks, just came back from a lanaboards break. I. NEED. LASSO. Do we realyl think she scrapped it because of all the other country records??

Is there ANYONE here who can share the Coachella livestream video of Kim with me I've been searching and writing people everywhere. I'm so lost that no one seems to have it. I know it was cut ane I'm not even expecting a 4K version....

Am I really the only one who feels like she's just recycling stage and stuff since L4L? And who's bothered by it? Seeing her live just got so whatever to me. I feel like we've come so far off from where she was during Paradise and Endless Summer Tour.

If you click on Lizzy Grant in Lana's current spotify bio it brings you to a page with an album by some fan (?) covering her songs

Can anyone enlighten me with the Yes To Heaven/Fine China mess? Trying to put something together and all of a sudden some versions are gone, different demo names... The lana wiki pages for those are kinda messy.

I would love to have an ultimate "depressed Lana/ultrasad" unreleased/demo album... like 12 tracks or something. Including Damn You, Yes to Heaven.... So far fanmade tracklist haven't really worked for me - I mean there's people who put "Driving in Cars" on these kind of things

I don't think we got any unreleased/outtakes that belong to the witchy sound. Just demos of released songs that fit the theme. Like that random "Love" intro that's super spooky but the rest is almost the same. Idg why she did that exactly.

I honestly think these titles were considered at the very same moment (when she send out those track compilations to radio stations and critics) so I don't think each title is a specific "era".... BUT: This is my Do U Luv Me Yet? tracklist that I think fits the title the best (very tongue in cheek, catchy, Americana, American Sweetheart) and the track flow is magnificent! Plus I did try to include tracks that were defo considered at one point. 1. Roses 2. Meet Me in the Pale Moonlight 3. Children of the Bad Revolution 4. Push Me Down 5. Hey Lolita Hey (demo from the homemade videos) 6. Kinda Outta Luck 7. She's Not Me 8. You Can Be The Boss 9. Serial Killer 10. National Anthem (the demo version from the homemade video) 11. TV in Black & White 12. Prom Song (Gone Wrong)

@Crazy Husband Stealer did have a very interesting idea in the other thread concerning this "tracklist" though...

Just came here to say that I've been listening to Sirens a lot lately. And damn... My momma is a very early diss track that (if it's not a fictional story) implies that her mom was the kind of woman who would flirt or get a bit too close with her boyfriends?

Mmmh sounds plausible. But re-listening to Cult Leader... it's veeeery different sound wise?

She lipsynced a lot so it's unlikely her mind wasn't made up before shooting it. Unless there is actual scrapped footage with different songs, but I highly doubt that.

Ah you mean the "tracklist" on that paper might be a list of tracks for the short film not for an album?

So the movie concept was standing, she wanted to lipsync to upcoming songs of "Tropico" but because they weren't done she chose the 3 tracks from Paradise?

Idk but that writing doesn't look like Money & Power and Axl Rose.

Well "Jesus" on that notepad is likely "I Talk To Jesus" or not?

Thanks a lot! I appreciate the summary Damn I can't read shit on that photo. Crazy to think that people would consider it a tracklist.

Someone posted on insta about the Tropico album that turned into UV. I never knew that Tropico was supposed to be more than the EP we got. There's also a notepad tracklist for that scrapped record? Is that true and can someone post? Do we have a tracklist?

BB has her lowest lows?? Where? And about COCCs length: The fact that COCC is basically her ONLY album that you have to change the vinyl only once to listen as a whole is actually really perfect. It's incredibly tiring to switch vinyl sides after basically 3 songs. What songs on that one are fillers to you?

It does feel like people forget that BB has Text Book, title track, Arcadia, Dealer, Thunder etc and COCC has probably her best title track ever, White Dress, Tulsa Jesus Freak, Yosemite... Like these record have some of her absolute best tracks ever. And I don't agree, there's nothing experimental about Ocean Blvd. I swear, no track has suprised me, sonically/style-wise. Unique? Mmmh, if NFR didn't exist maybe. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy that people like it so much, but there's barely anything fresh on that record, though I could definitely agree that her lyrics are really amazing on this one.

So one thought - didn't she always claimed she's writing with a typewriter? I mean, unless the poems were each pages long, it doesn't seem weird to have them written down. Do you guys think she might really meant it was all gone? Because they were all files on her computer?

Idk why but I think it's so unfair almost EVERYONE (even non Lana stans) is loving and praising this album, but BB and COCC get almost zero love and get looked down upon. I seriously love BB much more than Ocean Blvd... Idk why I'm so bothered about this

So all the written stuff is gone?? really... omg

Got my red and green vinyl today! yaaay Do you guys think there is a chance we'll get the standard cover with a colored vinyl at some point? It's really my favourite picture but I'm not into standard black vinyls unless there is no other option.

My current thoughts... Sweet - filler, melody is all over the place, don't like it Candy - eerie, very BB-style, something's missing though, feels like it's building up to something, but it's not Batiste Interlude - could've just been attached to candy? idg why it really needed to be its own track, nothing special (compared to what she used to do with "Burnt Norton") Kintsugi - first: sounds like a piano demo for UV with the way the vocals were edited, we've heard this kind of vocals and melody runs since NFR, kinda meh at first, but: starts hitting after ca 3min, like the first half is a warm up for the actual song, second part of the song really, really amazing Fingertips - cinematic, first melody on the album that feels new and fresh, very BTD era storytelling (could be the same "character" of National Anthem if you know what I mean), grainy noise from the mic very UV, 3:48 what's that?? Vocals fading out, almost like skip?? Paris - piano opening really lovely, she should let instrumentals speak more like this and be more melodic, got "Venice *****" vibes kinda, very Lizzy grown up, kinda cements the strong middle of album Grandfather - melody ok-ish, storytelling on the stronger side, very NFR, similar to Fingertips and Paris but not as strong Light - May Jailer goes big production, too much like "Tomorrow Never Came" tbh, the usual folk duet, lyrics really meh Margaret - dreamy 60s folk country pop megastar ballad, "Beautiful People" vibes but much better, chorus one of the strongest (mixing and production wise), solo vocals around 3min stunning!! "waltz this out" finale amazing, beautiful Fishtail - thank god for the beat coming in, beginning of the track pretty whatever, feel like we had this kinda sound with "Summer Bummer" already and can't reach "High By The Beach" levels that feels like it went in a similar direction Peppers - talk-singing much needed style on the album, vibey and catchy, something actual new, wish we got more of this style Taco - very BTD, also much needed beat though it's more uninspired than "Peppers", "Venice *****" sample kinda weird to me (especially because VB is the much better song which just makes it more present) So far, "The Grants", "Margaret" and "Peppers" would be my top 3 I think (and "Kintsugi" minus the first 2 min). None of the tracks on the album would enter my fav Lana songs for now tbh.