pinkchiffon

yeah, i wouldn't agree she's an airhead as such. i'd just say she's a creative and politics is largely more about theory and not about idealism. i make NO excuses for her whatsoever cos i don't believe she doesn't have a general awareness she's just ignoring, however it's not uncommon for creatives to have this "everything is about love" "it will be ok" "let's all respect each other" "we'll find a way" viewpoint that's unhelpful and unnecessary imo 
 
 
it's sort of like john lennon singing about no possessions whilst on a baby grand piano worth thousands of dollars

I was annoyed in March when we didn’t get anything but I thought whatever I’ll chill cause I know by June we’ll probably have the album already.
 
 
 
HAHA!!

Lets play Love on the moon gays
 
https://www.nasa.gov/moontunes
 
  :party: :party: :party:

same, I can't picture myself listening to the album, either. It also feels so distant and non-existent to me now

Anyways I’ve really been feeling every bit of her music lately. Even BTD, video games blue jeans etc. but this new shit just pisses me off. I simply just don’t care anymore. I’m frustrated with her. It’s like she’s completely forgot she had a career. It’s like she’s completely lost touch with the enigma that she’s built for LANA DEL REY. Not Matcha Del Day. It’s like I don’t even stan the same person.

You really wrote all this...... after you get a thorough answer that acknowledges all these points and explains perfectly why we’re frustrated a page or two back? I can’t even.

If the songs are submissive, they can't be 'interpreted' as submissive, they can only be viewed as such, ie there is no bias, and they were - and rightly
 
About the empowerment thing, it's a matter of proportions. I could enumerate at least fifty songs in which she's acting submissive, to a certain degree of course, sometimes very much, sometimes less. But she never was so 'emancipated' in any song as she was submissive in others.
 
And I don't think these songs really convey empowerment. When she played the femme fatale role she wasn't getting out of her submissive character, it's totally coherent with that wannabe fifties attitude. Come on, we know the femme fatale myth is a patriarchical construction made up so that men could fantasize over it. So if today women want to subvert it and turn it into a non-patriarchal attitude, I shouldn't have any problem with that, but Lana clearly wasn't doing that in her songs.
 
plus "baby I can't do it alone, cause you're the one that I want", "would you kill for me? would you die for me?", "I know what you've done and I can be your alibi" yeah super empowered, much more than the man in the song. I don't see any equality in American either

I think she totally is part of the tapid liberal consensus that most American celebrities of her range share. They are liberal enough to blame Trump voters for being the underprivileged people falling for populism, not Liberal enough to bring real depth into their perspectives, or look toward places outside America or the Western world, let alone doing it in a way that wouldn't be blatantly neocolonial, giving millions to make them akin to the West but making sure people forget their donations account for 1% of their wealth, and that they support the worst corporations on a daily basis, when they're not advertizing for them. Liberal enough to 'tolerate' or include, to a certain extent, minorities in their content, but not Liberal enough to understand that they won't bring peace in Palestine. Liberal enough to leave aside antifeminist rhetoric, not Liberal enough to stop fueling institutions that are harming minorities, for instance Hillsong but that's only the visible type of ones. To say that climate change is real like 95% of people know but not to take any further action or stop flying private jets two hundred times a year. She's not the only one to do that and I don't think it would be reasonable to ask her to do otherwise, because she's just part of it all, but the media or people acting as if she was taking a stand in ANY WAY by alluding to her disliking for Trump need to stop.
 
Plus her submissive position in her 2010 songs was not an interpretation. It was clearly there, not only in the voice, in the videos, in the overall attitude, it was in the words. It's striking when you discover new songs from that time, like Bad Boy. I'm not saying it's wrong though, it's a fact

this. i'd like to point out 'PC' is a term largely used to undermine and invalidate people's care about others' justice and equality as if it's new, trendy and always disingenuous because it's "unnatural". there's nothing 'politically correct' about not being/not wanting to be a shit person