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I honestly prefer Yes to Heaven because it is shorter and sounds more mysterious, adding elements of mysticism and Catholicism that Lana's known so much for. Say Yes to Heaven reminds me of rather cliched titles like Say You Love Me or Say To Me and stuff like that and narrows the concept of what the song is about. But it's just my opinion of course. Idc about the title as long as the song is as good as or better than the demo Ultraviolence version we have.

Oh yeah! That was from the time when they were confirmed to be friends though and it's less apparent. Now the whole fandom thinks they don't like each other but here is Lana coming with this. What's something we don't know?

At least we got Marina reference from Lana in Candy Necklace tho. Super suicidal and Bible can't be coincidental

Power & Control is so criminally underrated. Power pop at its best.

oh I see. well Rick could've made it to sound more like Bubblegum Bitch, it would've been perfect. Stargate was probably cheaper tho

It did not fit sonically because it was supposed to sound like that and was replaced with instrumental background made for a different artist: Definitely not a single material... but perhaps with some changes here and there it could've had more potential.

Nothing weird about it, they had been a couple for a few years already, after many years love just doesn't feel like in typical pop songs, apart from the fact they had a dysfunctional relationship and probably Marina forced herself to write it. Its substantial lyrical structure revolve mostly around anxiety; "You never judge me for any of my fears / I love the way we worked so hard Yeah, we've come so far Baby, look at me, you're my superstar When I'm afraid, when the world's gone dark Come and save my day, you're my superstar".

that's the destiny of 'marinabook' ever since it was created

After years of passionate listening to this track I realised it is severely underdeveloped and the fact this version's supposed to be final sheds a bad light on it. The lyrics are too repetitive, the vocals sound unpolished and the instrumental background doesn't have many things going on. Compare it to marvelous final versions of Power & Control or Living Dead. Miss Y (https://dbree.org/v/062a25) sounded more prepared but I can't seem to find the actual HQ final version with the guitar bridge and piano ending (https://dbree.org/v/fb7f7b).

Finally some Born to Die and Ultraviolence vibes??? She still has it in her!!! Chemtrails and Tulsa were a great return to Honeymoon, now this Let me pretend that all recent piano songs never happened tho

in alternative universe electra heart was topping all international charts and critics praised it so marina did not have a nervous breakdown, became an international alt pop star, and never gave up on her artistry. i said what i said

yes this song is so badly written. i imagine some potential in that alternative title tho with better lyrics. most ideas in l+f are practically ill-executed, esp. to be human. not that new america is any better... unfortunately @Anonymcomenter nah, she doesn't do it, she's admitted to not even reading professional reviews anymore because she cares about her mental health. quite a shame bc ancient dreams in a modern land had nice ones

actually 'enjoy your problems' comes from a t-shirt (below) and tbh i'd rather have that instead of silly 'enjoy your life'

I LOVE GUILTY LIVE. Her whole performance in Baden Baden at TFJ Tour was absolutely marvelous.

Savages is slowly getting hype on TikTok! Hope it blows out.

I agree with most of you said in this thread but this definitely not. Her manager Derek MacKillop did not allow her to make Die Life because she wanted it to be exclusively under Marina brand and Electra Heart to be her seperate identity, which I think would be absolutely glorious because she would simultaneously not offend her previous TFJ fans (who were also disgusted by EH sound, really, British press especially) and still hit the charts. She had hits in EH era not because she was already known thanks to TFJ but because they had great pop potential and big producers. Also her anonymity would sparkle even more interest I suppose. Unfortunately no label would make such a risk and fund two albums at the same time and spend money on a big pop campaign with Dr. Luke production and Madonna/Katy Perry ambitions for Marina's experiment, technically a brand new artist.

i do like handmade heaven, but from what i've observed many people were already bitter about her stage name change, collaboration with clean bandit was rather questionable to say the least, and then handmade heaven was definitely not catchy enough to keep them interested. then superstar (overhated) and orange trees happened, when the album was announced the artwork was so bland it still hurts, later she claimed L+F to be her best album so people grew very big expectations and were disappointed heavily. stop pretending that any please don't call me or holiday would've changed that because we all know it wouldn't, later on she was sooo depressed by the fandom reception that she had nightmares about planes crashing, and, to be honest, listening to this record feels quite uncomfortable after that. and marina is to blame here as well because aside from the music she clearly had no vision for this era. she just doesn't spend that much time on her work as she used to it seems.

no song added would've saved this album, trust me. it was hated by fans nearly from the very beginning

Did they actually meet in 2013? Marina was in a relationship with Burns then and I'm pretty sure I'm a Ruin & Blue are about him.

since this thread "girl needs to get diamonds back" and "L+F is bad" bores me to death, on a positive note I'd like to point that Electra Heart is now Platinum eligible in the US and The Family Jewels is close to Gold, but Marina would need to buy the certificate herself since probably Atlantic cannot do it anymore.

Sorry to break it to y'all but I remember her saying somewhere that it was a lie and there were "obviously" no labels chasing her so Derek Davies who discovered her seems not to have had competition, truth be told her too cool to be indie too wise to be pop persona was very well-played.

Greg, Rick, Luke, Liam and herself

LA - who am I to love you? I'm malnourished by your placebos of love. I guess you could call it a textbook, I was looking for the father I wanted back. I was just a girl that you could not believe because it's harder, I was just a girl and all I really wanted was my father

Writing about your glamorous Hollywood life ain't the thing anyone's gonna relate to, so Marina sis you better take it into consideration, unless you really don't care what you're doing. That new poem is alright, but the structure seems messy and the visuals kinda childish.

and i made myself believe other people wanted to hurt me i took my bitterness and made it sweet i took a broken heart and made it beat hating love + fear is just cliche'd at this point. sure it's nowhere near as excellent as her first three albums but it's got some cute moments