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her about love was the most random shit ever and still she made it work so???

The fact she did nothing for Barbie the movie is homophobic

That flowers look familiar

I could see Venus Fly Trap slightly influenced by LHC tho

As a European I never cared about any Americana thing, what resonated with me as a teenager was how boldly Lana and Marina depicted depression, existential and identity crises and tragic love, something that most artists usually dared not to talk about at that time, the radio was mostly either dubstep dance rubbish or Adele-soul and it was also the time when song streaming wasn't a thing so obviously finding new artists was harder, hence we had Tumblr. Marina's and Lana's quotes and images literally ruled that site. They both explored the themes of identity, loneliness, unreciprocated feelings and were able to put all of that under the facade of commercially accessible wise pop records.

I think that L+F did pretty well after all, that era was also messy, like why did they even release LOVE EP first? Anyway the thing with Radioactive is that Marina had extremely high expectations towards this song and its failure is exactly why she abandoned it. Shampain was a failure as well so Marina pretended to hate it right after it was released LOL, as if she was pressured to make it a single. This is what Marina simply does, same with L+F, like "I was made by the label to do that" thing. Like girl c'me on, we love you but we know you love lying and hiding your insecurities wherever u go.

There were several opportunities for Marina in her career and I really don't think Atlantic actually gave a shit about her (not that it's a completely negative thing, she had artistic freedom after all), especially seeing ADIAML vinyl messy release and whatnot.

Most people hate L+F just because it is already hated.

FFS it was never confirmed Marina dropped Lana after QFTC, to knowing of MINE she unfollowed her a bit earlier if not by clearing her all instagram following whatsoever but people went on with that myth because of the drama.

Just catching up your discussion I need y'all to remember that Lies is about Theo from Hurts, not Burns about whom is I'm a Ruin and Blue. And Marina's post-ADIAML wish to re-record her old stuff might be due to her lack of creative progress, which I hope will get better now that she's on a self-recovery journey (better late than never IG).

What I meant was rather cohesiveness in quality. The Froot title track is amazing, but such ones like Can't Pin Me Down bring nothing to the table, and the message of Gold is priviliged point of view and irritating. TFJ and EH are simply richer, both in context and melody, and I never understood people choosing FROOT as their fav. album, but it's just me. Not that it's a bad record of course, I love the aesthetics and the atmosphere, it's very nice "homemade pop" let's say.

To be honest, FROOT was never that good to begin with. What value do Can't Pin Me Down or Gold have? Ik it's probably a taboo thing in the fandom but this record is not as cohesive as people portray it to be.

Why bother listening to Purge the Poison? I think she was in such a state of mind, especially during her breakup, that she simply had to create something juvenile like this. But if you really want to give her a try as a Lana fan I highly recommend songs like "Valley of the Dolls", "Starring Role", "Happy", "Immortal", "Teen Idle", "Obsessions", "The State of Dreaming", ones that are actually touching and Lana-esque in some places. And her wisest sociopolitical song to this day probably remains "Sex Yeah", could've been written by Lily Allen. As for charity, we know only about that project to help Afroamerican artists I guess?

Hate to say it but listening to her music feels more cringeworthy with each month recently. This is something that Lana has been able to escape, perhaps thanks to her experimentalism and neverending passion to music, even at her lowest or most desperate she never sounded "cheap", she's been able to finally gain international critics' respect. I don't know if it's because of my age but certainly the feeling that most of Marina's fandom consists of angsty teenagers does not help. I can't help but get the impression she's somewhat stuck in that immature music place and does not want to grow. I need her to release something actually mature and meaningful, not fucked with the food chain fucked with the farming too shit.

exactly, it's obvious love + fear will have more polished lyrics because of the amount of co writers. i do think marina has always been a clunky lyricist and that's why i adore electra heart the most, because other people like nowels, rick or even dr. luke helped her execute her own idea better. what i still cannot comprehend is simply how marina doesn't bother to proofread whatever she's writing now

she's so doing nothing

fans: marina release inha we hate you marina: :((( mmm okay sooo here's a new version i'm gonna release it soon now pls go to my concerts and i'll sing it here and there!! fans: yay marina we love you can we pls now have it on spotify?? marina: right imma head out

she did sign autographs like that in tfj era actually

After learning that the released version is (apparently?) the original one produced by Nowels, I'm more lenient. Rerecording this and stripping down from the upgrade felt less forgivable. I think it will grow on me and I admittedly might've been biased because of all those beautiful fanmade music videos to a James / viral version. However, I do still miss the drums and I hate this cheap instrumentation part in 0:50 repeatedly used by daddy Nowels throughout Lust for Life but m'kay.

She was joking just to get more views on this video... the film is obviously a reference to a female archetype in mass media throughout ages. Sure, Electra might live somewhere in an alternative universe but the way fandom thinks those three Marinas in VFT video represent TFJ, EH and FROOT are sooo delusional. What the "fucked with the food chain" line was supposed to be tho....stanning this woman gets more and more tiring.

The only time Marina resurrected Electra was after backlash of L+F. Apparently she will go back to her whenever things go wrong. And Venus Fly Trap thing was obviously just a joke.

There's no better version than James Ford one, you can't convince me otherwise. Everything else is just laid-back bedroom folk boredom. It would be cute to release all versions, given that she released a sped up dumbo, but abandoning that one is just insane.

So it's Say Yes to Heaven after all... Okay mama let us just cherish an actually good version

her poems are way better than new america orange trees shit anyway, sis just needs to remind herself what proofreading is

Still, the demo demo is this one: https://dbree.org/v/6f3c5f