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Yup, that is exactly what I was thinking, whether this means we can expect happier songs in the future, maybe a Born to Live era is coming!

I am sure you have noticed that Lana bought a house in Beverly Hills. I think she moved in after she got back from Glasgow and had Chuck and Charlie with her, during the move. Barrie just joined her today (he posted a pic from her house on FB and Twitter), and Lana is of course busy buying stuff for the house (including the pony!). She now has her new Jaguar F-type to tool around (someone posted on ATRL that Jaguar gave her 3 cars!!) and all this makes it seem she is settling down after years of somewhat nomadic existence (Alabama(?), NYC, NJ trailer park, LA, London, Glasgow, Chateau Marmot). On one hand I feel really happy for her, on the other hand I wonder how it will affect her music and song-writing. Your thoughts?

You are just awesome, TPD! I am amazed at the stuff you dig up. The forum wouldn't be the same without you.

Don't get why I have school November 13th, it's a national lanaday.

You are just awesome, TPD! I am amazed at the stuff you dig up. The forum wouldn't be the same without you.

You are just awesome, TPD! I am amazed at the stuff you dig up. The forum wouldn't be the same without you.

i beg to differ! she wouldn't have been as successful and as popular as she now is, of course, but with her voice and songwriting she would not have been extremely unsuccessful! i think if she was "normal"-looking she would've received indie acclaim, i'm pretty sure of that, and more focus would've been on her music. you can bet her life would be more peaceful and calm and low-profile, that's for sure! but at the same time, she was unsatisfied with her moderate buzz of yore and she wanted this stardom - and she got it. it's a double-edged sword.

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This is probably already known/insignificant but Lizzy was a part of a group of musicians known as the loveseat collective who would get together at a guy named Ben's house and play music for each other. Kinda cool.. wonder if they'd know about Ruby Tuesday ugh
 
 
Also, Julian Maylee, who was Lizzy's guitarist for Rich Whores (I think?) has a Pin Up Galore vid private .. (which we've seen) .. I could only see this picture.. but who knows how many other performances he has (However, given this article: http://radioexile.co...nderground-nyc/ It's possible it includes live versions of 'Jump' (crying), 'Yayo', 'Trash Magic', 'Mermaid Motel', and 'Gramma' at National Underground- also pls note that LIZZY obliged to encores sigh)
 

 
http://oystermag.com/lana-del-rey-interview
 
^ Proves that there is a BTD demo with lyrics "fuck you hard in the pouring rain" GIVE IT TO MEEEEEEEEEE

There is no doubt that Lana's beauty has helped her get to where she is now. In fact in the WLSC video from 2006 (where she sings Pawn Shop Blues), there is a guy at the beginning who says that the surest formula for success in music is to be really beautiful with a great voice and then they show Lizzie. However in her present reincarnation as Lana, there are people who dislike her because they feel that she has taken advantage of her looks to get to where she is now (of course accusations of plastic surgery did not help). As for me, I like that she is good to look at, but I probably would have liked her even if she was plainer (I love Alanis Morisette), given that I love her music.

There is no doubt that Lana's beauty has helped her get to where she is now. In fact in the WLSC video from 2006 (where she sings Pawn Shop Blues), there is a guy at the beginning who says that the surest formula for success in music is to be really beautiful with a great voice and then they show Lizzie. However in her present reincarnation as Lana, there are people who dislike her because they feel that she has taken advantage of her looks to get to where she is now (of course accusations of plastic surgery did not help). As for me, I like that she is good to look at, but I probably would have liked her even if she was plainer (I love Alanis Morisette), given that I love her music.

Found an interview- Lana- but it explains Diet Mt Dew and possibly Lana's unreleased/unleaked song "Greenwich"- which proves, at least to me, that Diet Mt Dew, Axl Rose Husband, and Greenwich are about Mike.
 
"Diet Mtn Dew I wrote at a time when I was really happy. I’d met someone who was perfect for me, and one of the funny things at the time was that he actually drank Diet Mtn Dew, just like me and my dad. I had never met anyone who drank specifically Diet Mtn Dew! We had taken a trip to Greenwich, Connecticut, and it was time to go home and he said “Diet Mtn Dew babe? New York city?” For some reason I just… That was the only line I had “Diet Mtn Dew baby, New York city…” Then he was like “you’re so pretty” as I smiled."
 
http://www.ilikemusi...ew/Lana_Del_Rey
 
That made me smile
 
Also smh at her calling KOL & DtMTDEW fluff
 
"To be honest, Diet Mtn Dew and Kinda Outta Luck aren’t even going to be on the record. I sort of put them up on the internet because I could, because they wouldn’t be on the record. In my mind they’re sort of just fluff. The real record is different. It’s a bit darker, but it’s beautiful."

i think it helped and hindered her, depending from where you look at it. it helped in garnering younger fans and fashion folk, but it was detrimental for her "authenticity" and "credibility" and led to backlash, especially because the changes she's made to her appearance are obvious, not only compared to the existing past footage but because contrived and artificial usually don't captivate the more "serious" music aficionados. i always thought that if thom yorke had been conventionally good-looking, radiohead would have never attained the level of reverence they did. personally, when i saw "video games" i thought she was striking, but what impacted and captured me was 100% the song and that beautiful voice. so although we'll never really know, i think if we're talking success as in getting contracts and shifting units and achieving fashion maven status, then yes, it helped her.
EDIT: this got me thinking and in general, less bombshell/more homely looks guarantee more respect, and i consider that that inverted-prejudice is unfair (even though the "beautiful people" have it easier in general in this superficial society we live in). why can't a gorgeous girl/guy make profound art? in music especially, appearance should be secondary, but, well, today more people listen to songs by watching them on youtube than on stereos/record players/devices.

I've been asked to talk about this experience by several people, and I'm deliriously tired from having just gotten home, but I'll try, although other people on the forum actually have, like, photographic evidence.
 
I made it into the first showing, and I was one of the last people. She was playing "Ride", which seemed like standard procedure for it's premiere, so I wasn't paying much attention. And then a new song starts and I hear the words "crystal meth", so I'm flailing and demanding how this can be happening. It was "American", and it's my understanding that before I arrived they played a lot more of the songs. I did record it, but you can clearly hear me talking at parts where I thought I was being quiet...I'll upload it anyway, if it won't get snatched off YouTube. Plus, I don't want to be ridiculed by desperate YouTube stans Distinct lyric: "Drive fast, I can almost taste it now."
 
So after "American", they introduced Lana Del Rey. She got onstage and laughed, you know the laugh. She said how grateful she was that she had all these fans who'd show up to an event that wasn't even a concert, and basically alluded to how the fans make it so much better in light of the backlash she's experienced. We all had a moment.
 
She then introduced the video with Anthony Mandler. She started making her way to the very back--where she sat watching it--but in the process was swarmed. Not even gonna lie, I made my way right into that cluster. She's so much more delicate than I ever imagined. Just how tiny her body is and how doll-like her face is. Mostly I kinda went "BLAGH LANA" and side-hugged her and caressed her hair. She's beyond stunning in person, even in jeans. Especially in jeans.
 
I'll tell you now so you don't get excited that all my attempts to get some personal Lana on Chance time were pretty much dashed--I asked for a signature twice and she only said that she couldn't, which was understandable because she was walking but DAMN. I'm such a dork, I just kinda reached out and touched her arm as she was walking by and she looked back at me. That's not the extent of our conversing, but I don't have any signatures or pictures.
 
The video. THE VIDEO. It's nearly indescribable, but I'll try. The whole time she's with a lot of skeezy men--like, three or four on different occasions. All older, rugged, ugly, and bikers. I really need you guys to see it because it's so good. Of course I have some bias, having seen it projected in a theater, but cinematically I think it's her best. NO INSTAGRAM FILTERS ON THIS ONE, THANK GOD. In short, she's partying in the desert with some bikers, straddling several dudes in the sand and pointing guns at them, indeed swinging on this mysterious tire swing, hanging out at a gas station, playing pinball with a biker sort of spooning her, getting into a car like a prostitute. It's Americana, it's trash, it's beautiful. It's Lana. What can I say? It's exquisite. She's on all fours for the ending monologue--by memory, I really loved that part, and also one part in the desert where she's wearing an Indian headdress. Bits of the video keep rushing back to me. The part where she is holding the flag, like in the promo photo, is so beautiful. I need to watch it again. There's so much to love about this video, I wish I could eloquently describe it all. It'll be all of ours to enjoy soon enough, but if you can--get that shit HD projected somewhere I cried. I cried my fucking eyes out.
 
Afterwards came the Q&A. I'll try to pick out the meaningful stuff. Someone asked what inspired the song "Ride", and she said that she was a lot more excited at the beginning of her career than she she was in the middle or even now--a clear reference to her backlash and trying to deal with fame, if you ask me. She said that's what she loved and preferred in her downtime--"riding motorcycles...and men :haha: "
 
She's touring early next year, although she expressed her hatred for the idea and said she'd rather take us all to hang out on the boardwalk on Sunday. GODDAMN SHE IS SO CUTE.
 
I can finally answer the question "what would you say if you met Lana?" Anthony Mandler chose me, seeing my desperation clear across the room, and I said, "Can you talk about why you re-recorded 'Yayo'...and some other songs from the album?" There was a general "ooh" of agreement, I noticed, but NO--I didn't ask about Jimmy Gnecco. NO--I didn't ask about unreleased material. Still, it wasn't THE shittiest question, right? Anyway, she said she liked the song because she considers it something of a jazz standard and it can go all in one take, but she didn't like how it turned out originally. So, yeah, stans...we're all WRONG in loving that song :creepy: And then I thanked her very much and sat down, although I was hoping she'd talk about an emotional connection to the song and give me some discreet Lanalysis material, not gonna lie. Please be happy with me, forum.
 
Someone asked if she had any plans for "Never Let Me Go" and she said, "It'll probably live on YouTube, like all the other leaked material!"
 
Someone asked if she is dating anyone, and she said yes.
 
She said she was misinterpreted when asked about quitting music and the Vogue Australia interview. She said she meant doing music for films, not acting in them. When pressed, she said that she thought the Paradise Edition was much better than Born to Die and was basically really happy with it. I'm hoping that means she's optimistic, not that she's said what she had to say.
 
Someone asked if she had any advice for budding singers, and she basically said that your expectations will never live up to your imagination. I thought that was kinda sad.
 
She said she is best at being a passenger on a motorcycle
 
After that, I went and waited in an alleyway to meet her. Other folks saw the video multiple times (damn I wish, I could've heard some more Paradise tracks) and spent their time wisely. Me, I waited and waited for her for hours. I met some pretty cool people, but at the end of the day her management wouldn't allow her to do a meet-and-greet, according to the staff of the theater. (CURSE YOU, BEN MAWSON!) That said, I waited until the very end. Me, my driver, and our three new friends were the last five people waiting in front of the theater in case she came back, not exaggerating. But she didn't. I'm pretty bummed about that, but not as much as I anticipated...like, I touched her, and she recognized my stan worship for "Yayo", and I saw the most amazing video ever on a giant screen, and I have the monologue printed out all pretty and I'll for sure frame it.
 
It was a great night. I can't wait for you guys to see the video. I don't think anyone will be disappointed. I truly don't.

It will be wonderful to have one post with the links to all the interviews (maybe listed by years with brief description). There was something like that on the .fm site and was useful to refute false accusations by haters/writers/bloggers in my ongoing effort to be Lana's offensive lineman online.
 
I think the David Nichtern interview was really informative, and dispels many, many of the false stuff still raised about her. I think it is amazing it took someone as talented as Lana so long to break through, but I also find it incredibly admirable that she didn't give up, kept trying, kept reinventing herself, until it all came together. Great woman!

if i can find it, i think i recall her saying that she was saved by god a million times and that she literally died for a few seconds after an overdose (this was kind of implied). i like you guys's poetic interpretation better, but the dying she refers to may be both figurative or symbolic AND alternately literal.

I too think that the three songs are about her three main loves, but each song is not necessarily completely tied to a specific individual, but rather an amalgam. VG is probably more about MM, but it could also include the time she spent with K (would fit with the narrative of them being on their own in a trailer, where the guy would be playing video games), In the same way her attraction to someone tattooed like JG might have begun with K, and BTD could be talking about both of them. Who knows, but as someone said, she seems to be a million piece puzzle.

I too think that the three songs are about her three main loves, but each song is not necessarily completely tied to a specific individual, but rather an amalgam. VG is probably more about MM, but it could also include the time she spent with K (would fit with the narrative of them being on their own in a trailer, where the guy would be playing video games), In the same way her attraction to someone tattooed like JG might have begun with K, and BTD could be talking about both of them. Who knows, but as someone said, she seems to be a million piece puzzle.

Just saw this posted on You Tube, don't think I have seen it before. She was unusually good in it, anyone know where was this from?
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oItxWf8QN-o

It's from the french show La Musicale (same channel as Le Grand Journal where she did all her live except of Taratata), it aired back in november 2011.
That edition of La Musicale was 100% GIRLS. She sang along Camille, Brigitte, Izia, Anna Calvi, Selah Sue, Florence + the Machine and Beth Hart. It was such a great show.
* Side note: you can see her smile in the video, I suppose that was the moment when Paz de la Huerta showed Lana her boobs. (For you who ever wondered where and when Paz did that)

Just saw this posted on You Tube, don't think I have seen it before. She was unusually good in it, anyone know where was this from?
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oItxWf8QN-o

Arthur Lynn was the lead singer for Angiescreams, which at least partially shared (if not completely) the same lineup as the Phenomena/Rich Whores minus Lizzy. These two posts from a blog of his are very telling to me.

It will be wonderful to have one post with the links to all the interviews (maybe listed by years with brief description). There was something like that on the .fm site and was useful to refute false accusations by haters/writers/bloggers in my ongoing effort to be Lana's offensive lineman online.
 
I think the David Nichtern interview was really informative, and dispels many, many of the false stuff still raised about her. I think it is amazing it took someone as talented as Lana so long to break through, but I also find it incredibly admirable that she didn't give up, kept trying, kept reinventing herself, until it all came together. Great woman!

Found this.. (I didn't screenshot it, I just googled)
 

 
 
(crying b/c her default pic is a picture of my boyfriend how sweet of her)

It will be wonderful to have one post with the links to all the interviews (maybe listed by years with brief description). There was something like that on the .fm site and was useful to refute false accusations by haters/writers/bloggers in my ongoing effort to be Lana's offensive lineman online.
 
I think the David Nichtern interview was really informative, and dispels many, many of the false stuff still raised about her. I think it is amazing it took someone as talented as Lana so long to break through, but I also find it incredibly admirable that she didn't give up, kept trying, kept reinventing herself, until it all came together. Great woman!