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52 minutes ago, Br00klynbaby said:THE TIMES:Lana Del Rey: Chemtrails Over the Country Club review — the artist launches her best image yet. Herself
(4/5 STARS)
Ever since she made a big splash in 2011 with Video Games, a song so moody and glamorous it could have been a figment of David Lynch’s imagination, Lana Del Rey has been an unsettling star. Variously written off as inauthentic, anti-feminist, narcissistic and irresponsible (for saying she wanted to die, an interviewer’s misinterpretation as it turned out), she hasn’t had an easy ride. And the albums have been up and down, from the lows of the VIP-area-friendly Lust for Life in 2017 to the highs of Norman F***ing Rockwell!, a vision of America in crisis, in 2019 . Now, having tried on all kinds of costumes, Del Rey has a new look: herself.
Set to the kind of plaintive songwriting that Joni Mitchell and Carole King did so well in the early 1970s, Chemtrails Over the Country Club turns the lens on to Del Rey’s past. It begins with her voice struggling at the top of its range on White Dress, bringing previously unheard vulnerability as she reminisces about being 19, working as a waitress, listening to the White Stripes and plying her wares at a music business conference, a glimpse of innocence before fame and its attendant tensions took over. It is very moving.
From there the album moves on to Chemtrails Over the Country Club, its title evoking the failure of luxury to erase paranoia, with images of Del Rey swimming in the pool in her jewellery, drag racing in her sports car and generally leading a privileged life that’s tinged with ennui. There’s a romantic but tragic vision of America throughout, from Tulsa Jesus Freak’s tale of an affair with an alcoholic Bible basher to a ghostly ballad called Yosemite, on which Del Rey sings in pure but resigned tones: “You made me feel invincible, like a candle in the wind.”
Every now and then you wish for a change in mood, something upbeat to bring balance, but for the most part the decision to keep things simple and subdued works. The Portishead-like Dark But Just a Game was inspired by Del Rey meeting a one-time hero of hers and finding them to be quite unpleasant, and her subsequent resolve to treat fame as a game that isn’t worth losing yourself over.
Dance Till We Die pays tribute to Mitchell, Joan Baez and Stevie Nicks before giving way to a cover of For Free, Mitchell’s 1970 song about being paid handsomely in a concert while an equally talented busker on the New York street plays clarinet outside for nothing. “They knew he had never been on the TV so they passed his music by,” sings Natalie Mering, aka Weyes Blood, a guest on the track. “He was playing real good for free.” So ends an album about the price of fame, the purity of art and the cost of living, beautifully executed, thoughtfully realised. (Polydor)
what a brilliant review. Basically summed up all my thoughts and feelings about the album. I love it even more now.
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53 minutes ago, Umaniac said:Umm so it's not coming out on midnight??? Wtf are they even thinking? I'm not waking up at 7 am to listen an album? Honestly I'm this close to listening to the leak at midnight and experiencing a normal album rollout.
Lana and her team messed up. Zero regrets here.i'll catch the itunes option when(ever) it comes out just to pay for it.
But next time - no way am i anticipating her album, when it's out it's out. Such a waste of time and energy.
3 minutes ago, Chiunzhan said:I love that song name tho. It's so lana
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5 hours ago, D3vilboy said:We never got the interview on the beach either i think? She probably ghosted
this whole era is such a mess.
like no promotion, delayed releases, very few interviews
It looks like there's very little interest in her as well.
i mean, the media solely seem to be into her weight gain, aside from NME
I remember the BTD days where she was everywhere you stepped into
Now she seems to be as popular as, well, weyes blood, or perfume genuius,
But then she has just made an album about how much she hates fame and wants to go back to a simpler life, so who knows.
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It just occurred to me - she could have added Dealer as a bonus track. At least on iTunes. She used to have Bonus Tracks all the time (BTD, Ultraviolence).
It's a cool way of saying - it doesn't fit with the record and the record ends here, but here you go, a little treat. I guess she figured she'll leave it for the next album.
4 minutes ago, Lustformoney said:today i randomly woke up at 6 am with Wild at heart in my head
The second best track on the album; it's SO good. Wish it had a great video with ranches, horse riding, and a wild Lana.
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SpoilerHey guys. I made a list of all (or most) LDR tracks to see where the Chemtrails song fit in, and the album's done well! Got 5 tracks in the top 50, which is more than Honeymoon, Violet and Paradise.
I'd love to hear your thoughts on this list. It's so hard to make, so tell me - what do you think I can do to improve it? (And yes, I hate Freak, it's one of my least favourite Lana tracks)
- Ride
- Venice Bitch
- White Dress
- West Coast
- Norman Fucking Rockwell
- Mariner’s Apartment Complex
- Young & Beautiful
- Video Games
- Blue Jeans
- Ultraviolence
- The Greatest
- Born to Die
- Cruel World
- California
- Shades of Cool
- Summertime Sadness
- Off to the Races
- Happiness is a Butterfly
- Wild at Heart
- Cola
- Terrence Loves You
- Love Song
- Bartender
- American
- How to Disappear
- When the World Was at War We Kept Dancing
- Get Free
- Lust for Life (With The Weeknd)
- Tomorrow Never Came
- Chemtrails Over the Country Club
- Violet Bent Backwards over the Grass
- Goodbye Kiss
- Love
- Fuck It, I Love You
- Tulsa Jesus Freak
- Music to Watch Boys To
- The Blackest Day
- Brooklyn Baby
- White Mustang
- Hope is a dangerous thing for a woman like me to have - but I have it
- Cinnamon Girl
- 13 Beaches
- Cherry
- Doin’ Time
- Happy
- Pretty When You Cry
- Summer Bummer
- Groupie Love
- Gods and Monsters
- Yosemite
- LA, Who Am I to Love You
- High By the Beach
- Don’t Call Me Angel (With Ariana Grande and Miley Cyrus)
- Art Deco
- Prisoner (With The Weeknd)
- Honeymoon
- Old Money
- God Knows I Tried
- National Anthem
- Looking for America
- Burning Desire
- Riverside (With Barry James O’Neil)
- Radio
- Not All Who Wander Are Lost
- Dance Till We Die
- Million Dollar Man
- Kill Kill
- Heroin
- Religion
- God Bless America - And All the Beautiful Women in It
- This is What Makes Us Girls
- Aviation
- Dark Bust Just a Game
- Beautiful People, Beautiful Problems
- In My Feelings
- Carmen
- For K, Part 2
- Change
- Serial Killer
- Fina China
- Oh Say Can You See
- Pawnshop Blues
- Breaking Up Slowly
- For Free
- Bel Air
- Let Me Love You Like a Woman
- Yes to Heaven
- Salvatore
- Florida Kilos
- Past the Bushes Cypress Thriving
- Lolita
- Money Power Glory
- Dark Paradise
- Swan Song
- Is This Happiness?
- I tTalk to Jesus
- 24
- I Talk to Jesus
- Sad Girl
- Fucked My Way Up to the Top
- Backfire
- Put Me In a Movie
- The Next Best American Record
- You Must Love Me
- Yayo
- Once Upon a Dream
- Big Eyes
- Blue Velvet
- Body Electric
- The Season o the Witch
- Bare Feet On Linoleum
- Stargirl Interlude (with The Weeknd)
- Burnt Norton (Interlude)
- The Land of 1,000 Fires
- Sportscruiser
- Quiet Waiter Blue Forever
- What Happened When I left You
- Paradise is Very Fragile
- Tess Di Petro
- My Bedroom is a Sacred Place Now There are Children at the Foot of My Bed
- Coachella - Woodstock on my Mind
- Diet Mountain Dew
- Freak
- Lucky Ones
- Jump
- Brite Lites
- Raise Me Up (Mississippi South)
- Queen of the Gas Station
- Mermaid Motel
- Gramma
- Guns and Roses
- I Can Fly
- Salamander
- Flipside
- Smarty
- The Other Woman
- Don’t Let Me Be Misunderstood
- You’ll Never Walk Alone
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2 hours ago, gsnlp said:I would pay good money for her to go back to Krug's cover, witch Chuck and Charlie photos in the booklet. And then if she wanted to include her friends, he could have taken pictures of htem as well and had it as part of the album artwork. I just don't understand what compelled her to choose that awful cover that she chose.
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1 hour ago, paradisetropico said:the album is spectacular. i was quite pleasantly surprised cause LMLYLAW and COTCC almost don’t fit the album.
the only flaw is the album cover
& i feel like she needed 1 more song, like she mentioned in her Interview Magazine - it feels like she still has words/emotions to say but kinda just wrapped it up with for free.
Yes! One more amazing track like White Dress or Wild at Heart, would have propelled this record to, like, my second favourite of hers. But Jack had to wrap it up, so it is what it is.
A 50 minute running time would've been so much better too.
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20 minutes ago, Alexis Del Rey said:LMLYLAW was last place on my ranking list. The song does nothing for me
It is taking me a while to get into this album which is different for me because I have loved every release she has ever done right away. Hopefully Chemtrails grows on me.
Same here. The blandest Lana song ever.
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18 minutes ago, PARADIXO said:Okay this is going to be personal and sad but White Dress hits right in my heart
I've been obese my whole life and some years ago I changed everything about my habits and lifestyle and that made me get sickenly obsessed with my body -- it's much better now but it's still exhausting to constantly do things in order to reach such a superficial goal. Sometimes I think retrospectively and feel like I was better when I was just a fat kid with long hair living in his Pink Floyd Tame Impala Harry Potter fantasy world. "Miss doing nothing the most of all..."
That doesn't take away the fact that I love exercising, it's something I've always wanted to do but I was so ashamed of myself. Lana loves doing music and being appreciated but still
I feel ya. I used to love just sitting at my desk and writing. Now I write advertisement for money and feel so burnt out and just want to go back to those simpler days. The song is perfect in the way in which it makes you rethink your life and when you were happiest.
You look fit though - so at least there's that:)
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SpoilerOk, after listening to the album a bunch of times, here is my ranking:
1. WHITE DRESS (one of her finest tracks ever, alongside Ride, Venice Bitch, West Coast and NFR). I mean, the storytelling, the melody, the voice, the point she's making, the novelty - it's all I need in my life right now. Favourite part - 'music business conference'. Leave it to Lana Del Rey to make the word 'conference' fit in a ballad, and make it sound iconic)
2. WILD AT HEART (just gorgeous, this should have been the first single, with a big ranch-like setting, horse riding, etc)
3. CHEMTRAILS OVER THE COUNTRY CLUB (I still prefer the rock cover by Hayley Mary and think this could have been the new Blue Jeans for Lana with a different production, but the slow version works perfectly within the context of the album and the LSD part is stunning)
4. TULSA JESUS FREAK (this song is sexy, mysterious and, simply put, an instant Lana classic. It's also got the best title on the record)
5. YOSEMITE (sad, gloomy, happy, devastating, beautiful, complex - there's so much going on this song, that I almost forgive Nowels for the god-annoying reverb he aways ads to Lana's voice that also almost ruined Bartender. Best part - 'candle in the wind', and I don't care that she's milked that metaphor for all its worth)
6. NOT ALL WHO WANDER ARE LOST (folksy, chill, sweet, gentle, perfect for relaxing on a porch (which I now wish I had)
7. DANCE TILL WE DIE (sweet, gentle, wise, with a killer bridge - what's not to like?)
8. DARK BUT JUST A GAME (This track kind of says everything White Dress already said, but in a much less interesting way. I'm not a big fan, but I still prefer it than the last three tracks on this list, and I love the difference in the tempo and beat; it makes the album more dynamic)
9. BREAKING UP SLOWLY (I like the these two women just jamming together, it works well within the album. But it feels very short and incomplete, and I can see myself skipping it more than listening to it)
10. FOR FREE (I'm generally NOT a fan of Lana's covers, and I could have done without this one, but it works within the album and it's an okay closer. Definitely don't see myself playing it much though (I genuinely think The Other Woman, Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood, Summertime, Chelsea Hotel, You Must Love Me, You'll Never Walk Alone are some of the worst tracks in her career; with the exception of Doin' Time and Goobye Kiss, which is her best cover so far. This one kind of sits in between)
11. LET ME LOVE YOU LIKE A WOMAN (after everything Lana's written over the years, this feels like something she banged out in between lunch and dinner. Like a Mariner's wannabe., or an early draft of that song. Even the dreamy guitar arrangement sounds similar. I do not understand why she's chosen it as the first single, and I think it's one of her weakest singles ever, probably only outdone by Freak. I was worried that THIS was going to actually the best song on the record, and I'm so glad it's one of the worst )
But even the tracks I don't like that much work so well within the album, and it's definitely a good album on the whole. 7.5/10
Thanks for reading:)))
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3 minutes ago, anwdelrey said:White Dress gets better each day omg
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6 minutes ago, MagdaleneRay said:Expected cocc to be longer, barely 45 mins
I love that. Most of her albums are a bit bloated. NFR would've been better sans American Record, and Lust for Life in particular could've dropped at least 3 tracks.
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1 minute ago, Clampigirl said:Maybe this will help? http://lanaboards.com/topic/12470-lanaboards-101-a-newbies-guide/
Thank you. OMG, the Violet theme is so much better. Someone should make a Chemtrails one.
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7 minutes ago, Deadly Cruel Girl said:Is the album officially out? I'm seeing reviews everywhere but I don't see the album was released on Amazon.
Who's posted a review? Can you link to it?
I'm interested to know what the critics will say about this one. I'm assuming a 7.5-8 on Pitchfork, and a 7 from Fantano. I don't think it'll reach NFR heights, but definitely a good score.
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3 hours ago, AphroditeBaby said:I cant stop raving about White Dress... Every time I listen to it it feels like an entire life lived and gone and I am always in a different place emotionally by the end when she finally says 'Maybe I Was Better Off' and it trails off... Like, the lyrics really are kind of vague minus some scenic images and concepts, but It still feels like its saying so much from the passion in her vocals and Jack's subdued riffing in the background frames it SO perfectly.
It's like that vein of confessional singer-songwriter "ballad" (using that term loosely) like HIADT or MAC or The Greatest, and I think the best take at it she's done so far. It's very easily top 5 in her discography for me, up there with Venice Bitch, West Coast, etc.
100%
Venice Bitch, West Coast, Ride and then White FUCKING Dress! It's so good. One of her greatest songs ever.
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7 hours ago, Nikogo said:SpoilerHi all. New to the forum, though I have visited occasionally. Hopefully I'm using the spoiler option correctly?
I listened to the album a few times, and I like it a lot more than I thought I would (the singles were a bit weak). The Midwest, country-infused style really suits her, and I love all the references to Kansas, Orlando, the ranches, suburbia etc. It's a new concept for her, and she pulls it off so well! I mean, she tried jazz, hip hop, surf rock - why not folk? It works.
Antonoff, again, knows what works best for Lana, and accompanies her so well. The piano lines are to die for.
Now, White Dress is is already in my top 10 fav LDR tracks ever and I would say it's one of her best album opening tracks ever, alongside Cruel World and NFR. The melody is gorgeous and when she says 'music business conference' - who the hell can use that in a lyric and make it sound so on point, truthful and beautiful? Perfection:) Also living for Wild at Heart.
Although the album is not as great as NFR (all time fav) or Ultraviolence (2nd fav, as flawed as it is), it's probably her most consistently good record to date. There are no weak links.
I mean, I'm not a fan of Dark But Just a Game at this point, it's a bit odd, but the piano is great, and fits well on the same record as Tulsa, and enlivens the record a bit.
I would have preferred if Lana sang BUS by herself - lyrically makes more sense for a solo - but hey, Nikki Lane wrote the song, so it's only fair. And the reverb on her voice on Yosemite is not necessary, but I'm used to it from Rick N. (why does he keep doing that?)
And one more thing - NFR was a bit bloated and could have done without the 6-minute NBAR on it.This is more crisp in comparison, and it's good to have a concise Lana album.
All in all, a strong 7.5/10 from me. Maybe will grow to an 8. I'm sure Fantano will like it and Pitchfork will give it a 7.5 at least.
That's all! I was so excited to hear this record, and so happy it delivered!:)))))
Chemtrails Over the Country Club - Post-Release Discussion Thread + Poll
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3 i think. It was the lowest for lana. I guess this one is even lower? Is this 4 score confirmed?