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I do. Because it was packed with good songs. 37 mins with only 4-5 songs worth one's time, as it is the case with RO, is really taking the piss. You know, I really respect Beyonce for putting out 90 mins of good quality music. Radical Optimism is a great album to compare other albums too this year (because it's that bad).

". The bigger illusion here is an album that claims to mark a change in direction but instead does the same as before, only less notably"- The Financial Times

Lmao. Mid-off is right.

Ah, got it. Well, seems like 6.6 hits that sweet spot for muddled, all-over-the-shop records. But I don't think it's fair to give Lipa the same score. TTPD has a clearer concept, collabs that keep things more dynamic, and a more substantial running time. Plus, it's just more pleasant to listen to (my ears are bleeding when listening to some points of RO.) TTPD also has a bit of a narrative (breakups, fame, etc), whereas OR has zero ideas asides from "I'm contractually obligated to get into the studio, so let me think of some shit to sing about". So far, Cowboy Carter >>>>>> Eternal Sunshine >>>>>>>> TTPD >>>>>>> Radical Optimism. I wouldn't even call RO an album, tbh. It's more of an EP with half good songs, half throwaway ones. She shoulda worked on it for another year, and maybe it woulda been something. Definitely needed more experimentation and Kevin Parker on it too, and at least 6 more songs.

What's TTPD? These abbreviations are killing me.

Agreed. Barely 30 mins long, and can't even land on a consistent sound throughout? 🤦🏻‍♂️ Some tracks are solid, only the singles really slap, and most tracks are just mid. And then, some songs are a literal assault on the ears (Falling Forever, which sounds like a BAD Eurovision song) Major step down from FN. Cowboy Carter is a monumental achievement by comparison. That album could have easily been 3 individual albums that are longer and better than RO.

😂😂😂 Album of the year? Yeah, right.

I hear you. But OB came out last year, March. It's only been a little over a year. And she had the OB promo, rob grant collabs, CN video, other collabs, Coachella, etc. She works fast, but I'm not sure if she could wrap up a whole album that fast with all this other stuff happening. That being said, HM did come a year after UV, so who knows. not being dramatic - Just don't want to get disappointed if we get (yet) another delay. Nfr was excruciating. Worth it but excruciating.

Good to know. But I'll count that album as an album only when it's remastered and available on Spotify or iTunes.

I'd be happy with 13. Fun fact: she's never had an album with 13 songs on the record.

september/october. Album out march. i personally think lana is nowhere near finishing the record. She prolly has about 8 songs including Henry Come on and Prettiest Girl. Then comes the mastering, artwork, merch, website upgrades, promo preparation etc.

I second this. Wondering how the fuck a song like, say, Peppers would sound like. And then it comes out, and it's nothing like you'd thought it'd sound lol.

I think Lasso is a great title, and it's here to stay. It's the second best out of her one-word titles, second only to Ultraviolence, and I 'm sure Lana loves it and isn't going to change it. For sure, there's a single with that name as well, and it's probably a song she loves.

that's true! Cowboy carter will hold me till september anyway. And i'm sure i'll fuck with dua lipa and billie too. The new future x metro boomin' isn't bad either, and there's still so much more music to come

that's why i said september is just not very realistic. It's just one of those lana statements. It means "we're working towards september but we'll see" if she's still not happy with the song selection or the mastering, it could easily be another 6 months. We'll probably get a video of her from Denny's in November, saying "hey guys, so we have an album release date for lasso, it's March 29th, 2025. So exited and hope you like it."

not manifesting bad thing at all. just being realistic. don't think that the september release date is realistic. She said these kind of things many times before and things are never on time. Hope she's right tho

More like May, June, July, August - nothing happens September - Lana teases new single and drops it, and we realize the album is postponed October, November, December, January - we get another single or two, and a bunch of snippets February/March - Album is released May - We get one home-made music video made by Chuck

please no. such a boring song. also yet another cover.

it's also a cop-out. Like, we know you can make sad minimalist songs with just you and the piano, gurl. Give us at least another "Love" if you can't put together a "Doin' Time"

for sure. In the two days at coachella, she played, what, jimmy, summertime, doin' time and west coast. Like, 4 bops in a 15 track setlist. She's over making bops, and she's over singing them. She seems to be firmly in her "sad girl" era. still, i'm hoping she and jack will have one day in the studio where they're NOT feeling miserable and are just fucking around like when they did Jimmy and, magically, a bop will materialize. If it doesn't, and it's another collection of Sweets, I'll be fucking livid.

YES! Doin' Time National Anthem Off to the Races Florida Kilos Summertime Sadness Cola Diet Mountain Dew Hollywood Radio Burning Desire You Can Be the Boss High by the Beach West Coast Serial Killer Don't Call Me Angel Summer Bummer Hundred Dollar Bill Ridin' Feat. ASAP Rocky This is What Makes Us Girls The list is even longer. I wish people on here wouldn't keep saying "Oh, you want Lana to be a different artist" when she has produced a large number of summer BOPS. Obviously, she can do that. Just not with Jack apparently (he hasn't produced any of the above)

If we look at definitions of the word "bop", it implies a rapid tempo. What song on Chemtrails has a rapid tempo, in your opinion? Or BB? Do you really think Tulsa, or BBS or Venice Bitch have a rapid tempo?

Or, at least, Ride. A big song with a great melody that could get radio play. No more low-key ballads as singles with minimalist production, like Blue Banisters, Arcadia, Wildflower, White Dress, Candy Necklace, The Grants, etc. It's literally been 5 years of those. (Doin' Time came out in 2019!) But knowing Lana, she'll drop Henry, Come on as the first single.

YES! A bit of rap and a bit of electronica (like Cowboy Carter) would be iconic.

Gurrl, I'm totally with you. I know it won't happen. Lust for Life was her last commercial effort for sure. But we JUST NEED ONE BOP. Just one. One upbeat single ala Summertime Sadness, Doin' Time or High By the Beach to hear on the radio or listen at the gym. Like, country with beats. And no, this is not me mistaking Lana for another type of artist, like Sportscruiser keeps accusing me. I'm her biggest fan, and I don't expect her to change. But 3 albums in a row without a hit just isn't good for her career. Chemtrails, BB and OB haven't had a single entry on Billboard 100. Meanwhile, 8+ tracks off of Cowboy Carter made it onto that list instantly, 6 of which weren't even singles (Buckin, Bodyguard, Protector, Blackbird, American Requiem, Hands II Heaven). All 3 of Dua Lipa's new singles made it onto the list at numbers 11, 20 and whatever. And, yes, I know Lana doesn't need Billboard, and she's in her own lane, and her true fans don't care. But she's had 15 songs on that list, and each album up until Chemtrails had a bop or a big ballad. So, she CAN do it, and she should. If for no other reason, then to continue to be part of pop culture, get more Grammy attention, etc. It's just good for her. Also, after 5 years, it's time for Jack to produce her first solo hit for her. He's done it for Taylor repeatedly, so I don't get why he can't cook up something more commercially minded for Lana.