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I'm interested about your takes. What song does come to your minds. For me the drum and guitar intro for You're Not The One immediately starts playing.

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I understand that completely. I love the conventional but still alt aesthetic and I prefer it over the e-girl style. I remember being jealous of OkaySage because she was kinda the face of soft grunge in the mid to late 2010s. It was easy to find that stuff, easy to pull ot off and it was convenient for a small town. I was buying my soft grunge stuff mostly in thrift stores and clearances, just like grunge was meant to lol. Many other aesthetics felt like they was reserved to rich city girls. I was a pre-teen/young teen during its peak in 2011-2013 and didn't have the access nor confidence to dress like soft grunge tumblr chicks. I was a little late to the party in 2014. My country was always late for trends until a couple of years ago so I technically wasn't late here. I still don't understand why they chose that year because it's the last year before tumblr started losing popularity. For me, it makes more sense to chose it as the instagram Starbucks VS Angels Madison Beer year lol.

I came across to a Tiktok that tells a short documentary about Sky. It's so innacurate that it's ridiculous but it's so popular and well made. She's referred as a 2014 tumblr icon, but she was literally active in 2011-13. Btw, she was slowly climbing and I assume that if Masochism was released in 2015 she would've been a B lister. I'm not sure why is Tiktok obsessed with the year 2014 when mentioning tumblr. They were saying like she was an It girl or something when literally no one I'm friends with knows about her. I was a type of person who was digging indie music on YT in the early 2010s and never came across Sky. I'm obviously on this thread because I'm a fan but let's not act like she was ever a B list celeb. Acacia Clark was a tumblr icon, Sky was a B lister maybe on Tumblr.

The video is unavailable but I love your idea for her direction because I love those bands you mentioned. They remind me of golden age of Tumblr. It definitely suits her but an entire album with that sound would be to depressing. She could balance that with songs like Voices Carry.

My exact thought when all of you were having breakdowns after she released that video. I wasn't that hyped at all. She can release the song in summer or fall if she wanted to. It doesn't guarantee an album release and what if we don't even like the song but were hyped for so long. Keep in mind that it's been years since she announced the name of the album and its aesthetic and THREE years since Downhill Lullaby. A normal artist would've released an album after a couple of months or less after announcing that, but in Sky's case there are no rules. She probably released that to keep y'all quiet. Tonia for mommager.

I swear celebs like her act like being a millionaire A list singer is the hardest job in the world. Check your goddamn privilege since many celebs are so quick to call out immoral behavior. The only A lister I have simpathy for is Britney Spears. I really liked her as a person and she shares my personally type but as time passes she is starting to remind me of those old entitled musicians from previous decades. It's kinda ironic how she's super chill and relatable on social media but a diva irl. It also shows that we should never idolize celebs and form parasocial relationships, not that I did that but I see people defending her like they're close with her irl. She can probably go back and be an indie girl but she won't be attending events, wearing designer clothes and being able to afford super weird music videos and outfits, which is probably hard for some people.

IMO I wish side C didn't exist. IMF and Coachella are kinda cringe but they at least have a good vibe. I don't always care about the lyrics. It's cringy in a BTD kind of way but not too cringe for me not to enjoy it. This is the album where she started with the painfully long titles and I'm not having it.

Speaking of LFL, as much as I love that album, I feel like the 'vintage' effect on her voice was so overdone. First that came into my mind are In My Feelings, Coachella and Freak (I know it's from HM) . It's kinda off. It's kinda her signature sound but in some songs it sounds like a bad quality mp3 song from 2007. She did it so subtle in UV and the instruments matched perfectly,probably because it was the microphone itself that made that sound.

The random 'fucks' was the only reason I didn't like that song in 2017. It was the only thing I remembered after the first listening. Years later I started loving the song.

It's giving Courtney Love coke head era, in a bad way... The outfit is giving Thrift Shop by Macklemore. Her hair is fucked up, the makeup is so messy that it would've probably look bad even on Adriana Lima. Her face expression is very awkward. The soft grunge princess Sky Ferreira can do much much better than this.

Electra Heart is superior sis. Family Jewels was her awkward pre-teen era.

I always thought Masochism had an 80s vibe. Maybe it became even more prominent since the 80s new wave is very trendy ever since After Hours and Future Nostalgia. Even if she changed the direction over the years, it's completely valid and I would do it the same. Sky's vibe in NTMT has always been heavily late 80s - early 90s.

Ahaam, I checked it. Based on the pictures it's basically 2000s millenia grunge, except it lacks rock and probably had Tonight I'm Loving You playing in the background. I literally thought it was more soft grunge and tumblr-ish because of Sky and the definitions. Not impressed , many of those indie sleaze celebs are either Karens or/and boring af now.

What is even indie sleaze? I keep seeing some posts announcing its comeback and I see that Sky and Kate Moss are the faces of it. There are a thousand definitions. I assume people on this thread know it because Sky is heavily associated with it.

Did Lana seriously pretend to be a Latina/Spanish? That's really embarrassing, and she was a grown woman in her mid 20s when/if she did that. Reminds me of 'Hilaria' Baldwin.

Same. I was surprised, the list is larger now. I think it also has to do with her knowing a lot of people behind the scenes. None of mx friends know about her either except my gay friend but we live different songs from her, so I can at least share this moment with someone irl

What in the Fame Monster x Born This Way...

I respect artists who don't sell themselves for mainstream success but I can't help but feel bad for my favorite indie artists who probably barely make anything and will be forgotten as soon as they quit music. By mainstream I didn't mean all of the radio and tiktok mainstream, but rather some moderate popularity where those artists made some kind of buzz in the music scene of that era.

Lmao same for me This is fun and all but the one who suffers the most here is still her. We have our own lives and can live without her music. She, on the other hand, is sabotaging her job and any chance of being mainstream. If she's willing to continue that by not communicating with her fan base or being passive aggressive, with fake announcements, not releasing music, so beat it.

I listen to pop, I like NIN and rock in general. It took me a while to like the album and I like the majority of songs and will be buying the vinyl as soon as I can afford to. So much effort was put in it but not in a cashgrab way. So definitely give it a listen. The only 'meh' songs are the cutesy ones about her baby lmao. You get used to the edgy mood of the album so the songs seem out of place. I was never bothered by her indie girl voice because she kinda owns it. She eventually stopped so it's safe to check the rest of her albums, although I'm not a fan of them except Badlands.

That song from Zendaya had me on chokehold in 2012-13 . It was constantly on repeat on my shitty first android phone and I wanted that pink jacket so bad.

an punk-ish grunge girl trope that exists for decades = Euphoria knockoff. If you said Effy/Skins knockoff it would've been less embarrassing. Zendaya was on Shake It Up when NTMT was released.

Thoughts on the scandal? IMO she was acting like a brat throwing a temper tantrum. Just wave at those people for 10 seconds ffs and celebs need to realize that their tantrums are still not acceptable. People like her who tell people not to look at them

I saw it. God, I hate irrelevant celeb throwbacks. It comes across of that person living in the past. She constantly posts early 2010s throwbacks. She should try to be 'that girl' 2.0. and reach a younger audience on Tiktok that's already obsessed with the past.