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cheaptrailertrashglm liked a post in a topic by Sitar in LANALYSIS: Relating Songs To Known/Assumed Relationships
Okay here's why we're on a forum for Lana Del Rey doing Lanalysis and not Taylorswiftalysis. Most of this stuff is up in the air, as much as many of us accept it as fact. A majority of this thread is discussion of intuition based on stuff that Lana has handed us. The invasive stuff like Facebook posts is unfortunate, but it would be negligent and unrealistic as fans to ignore stuff once it's there in front of your face. Beyond that, I'm wondering what you think is too personal to discuss? Gogo dancing? Addiction? Sleeping around? Famous boyfriends? Most of that stuff is derived from her lyrics.
Gogo dancing:
- I'm your gogo dancer.
- Watch me dance for other guys.
- Disco, gogo dancer so rare.
- Motel singer or the silver pole.
- All the men are watching, the crowd is cheering.
Drug addiction:
- Get Drunk
- A GQ interview she knew would be published
Sleeping around:
- Making Out
- I know your wife, she wouldn't mind
Famous boyfriends:
- I said hey, Jimmy Gnecco, I like the way your name echo (a name drop if I've ever heard one)
Yeah, this list includes leaked songs, but note I didn't cite any examples from her very personal home demos.
I understand where this thread makes people uncomfortable but to that point I'd recommend avoiding it. Many people do. I can only tell you that the intention is to only use information that's on the world wide web in this thread, despite a wealth of other sources, including but not limited to interaction with some of the subjects on the part of our more zealous members.
I hope you find an appreciation for Lanalysis but if you don't I hope it doesn't continue to bother you too much. Hope I helped illuminate something.
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motel6angel liked a post in a topic by Sitar in Lana's drug use/trailer park era
You are such a delight.
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motel6angel liked a post in a topic by Sitar in Lana's Old FaceBook/Twitter
Oh, the way you said it made it seem like you were hoarding new info. That makes a lot more sense
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motel6angel liked a post in a topic by Sitar in Lana's Old FaceBook/Twitter
Then please don't publicly allude to it, that's just frustrating
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vrsyva liked a post in a topic by Sitar in Lana and Shiny Toy Guns
Damn this thread only coming across my radar now...But interested in this bunch of stuff!
Curious about Josh and what confirmation we might've gotten of this since again I haven't paid attention in a long time!
Highkey I gave up on it long ago because I'm a perfectionist and it's a kii the amount of speculation in the original post when all these men that were confirmed to be associated later on were never mentioned in the early days. But stuff like this makes me long for the free time I had as a 17 year old to piece everything together again.
Sorry for the bumps guys somehow the Wild One leak led me here! That Mike name-drop....
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Karolll liked a post in a topic by Sitar in Butterflies Part 2
When they said prolific, they weren't kidding
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Karolll liked a post in a topic by Sitar in Butterflies Part 2
What do you guys think of "A pin-up in the lonely sky" versus "I been up in the lonely sky"?
Anyway, I think it's really clever how she plays on the definition of a pin-up girl with "You can pin me up if you like"--like, you stick butterflies with pins. Anyway.
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Karolll liked a post in a topic by Sitar in Butterflies Part 2
YOU'RE HOT FOR GOD?!
YASSSSS! :omgha: :omgha: :omgha:
I don't think the Sunday line has "little girl", but that God line is ace.
It's rocking my whole world
She sang in the choir as a child
Was this bitch a real Lolita
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Dark Angel liked a post in a topic by Sitar in What Are You Listening To?
Daytona Meth - Lana Del Rey
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motel6angel liked a post in a topic by Sitar in The Mike Mizrahi Movie Mystery Megapost
Arthur Lynn song, Mo, but I'll forgive you for avoiding Lanalysis.
Anyway, awesome post, evil! I'll be happy to just directly quote you like the Mr. Campbell stuff in Lanalysis--it doesn't do much for "relating songs", but it's interesting regarding her relationship. ("Put Me in a Movie" was recorded far too early to be a Mike song, despite that disgustingly fortuitous title.)
And since MM is a "filmmaker", it's only a matter of time before that sextape you all thirst surfaces Would rather see Reeve naked, even Jimmy...hell, even Bradley before Mike, too.
But let's not with that
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cheaptrailertrashglm liked a post in a topic by Sitar in LANALYSIS: Relating Songs To Known/Assumed Relationships
So we don't paint him as a total asshole.
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cheaptrailertrashglm liked a post in a topic by Sitar in LANALYSIS: Relating Songs To Known/Assumed Relationships
I'm aware of all the lyrics talking about abuse (hit me, my darling, tonight / I don't know why, but I like it), but I just hope she was being somewhat...figurative.
Jimmy's tattoo is definitely a dragon, but honestly that's close enough to a snake for me Don't know if you've read the OP, lola (no fault if you haven't), but she definitely posted the song on his Facebook. Yayo and Jimmy Gnecco are probably the only songs we can totally, definitively attribute to one guy.
I guess he wasn't drowning in money, but to think he was a drug dealer in addition to being a ~rockstar~ is strange.
Some things to suggest "You & Me" isn't about Jimmy:
- Blue water from the sea, hands all over me vs. Kill Kill's (or rather, The Ocean's) I'm in love lying in the sand--a K song. And Dark Paradise is sometimes considered a sequel to Kill Kill, so...ocean shit = K?
- Jimmy isn't the only man on earth with tattoos.
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cheaptrailertrashglm liked a post in a topic by Sitar in LANALYSIS: Relating Songs To Known/Assumed Relationships
I said hey Jimmy Gnecco I like the way your name echo
This has actually kind of been bothering me. I hope Lana's relationship was fucked up on its own merits and not the fact that he hit her. That any of them hit her.
I have a Cola theory, if you will indulge me (you oughta, after all this time):
Lana has said that her two "identities" aren't different people in her mind, and that she'd like an escape ever now and then to Lana Del Rey, badass confident performer. What if Cola is her identifying with another persona? Demure Lizzy versus slutty Lana? Lizzy being the wife in this equation, and Lana being the mistress. I don't know. I just don't know. This song is so confusing.
Do we think that Jimmy Gnecco sold cocaine? The tattoo lyrics in "You & Me" seem to indicate him, but then there's the selling yay line--we've pretty well established that we think K was a drug-dealer.
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cheaptrailertrashglm liked a post in a topic by Sitar in LANALYSIS: Relating Songs To Known/Assumed Relationships
Another thing I've been meaning to talk about. I do reckon she cheated on Barrie. She lived with a former boyfriend in New York around that time and--in my world--definitely had a thing with Bradley. Both could only have occurred after August 2011. Anyone else remember reading about them breaking up, around May was it? It could have something to do with that, hence the melancholy undertones of "Ride" and potentially "Body Electric". I think the reason they're so public now is because Lana proved she was done messing around when they got back together.
But Hunter, I'm interested in why you think Bradley and Porcelain Black were together at the time.
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cheaptrailertrashglm liked a post in a topic by Sitar in LANALYSIS: Relating Songs To Known/Assumed Relationships
You're a darling.
I had no idea Bradley and Porcelain were a thing when Lana hired him. Very interesting. That pretty much makes her the other woman no matter what, hmm? You see, I'm confident they had a fling. I think it's a bit naive to say they didn't.
"Cola" is interesting. I'm pretty sure the verses have nothing to do with the chorus and serve only as poetry of a sort to emphasize what a badass slut she is. I only think this because Barrie inspired the Pepsi cola line, and yet he's not one of those "men who are older". And he's certainly not married. I think it absolutely makes sense for it to be about Bradley. Which leaves "Radio" kind of in the dust...
If there are no objections or counterarguments, I'm going to go ahead and call "Cola" our second Bradley song Was hoping for at least one on Paradise.
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cheaptrailertrashglm liked a post in a topic by Sitar in LANALYSIS: Relating Songs To Known/Assumed Relationships
10 years according to her latest interview
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cheaptrailertrashglm liked a post in a topic by Sitar in LANALYSIS: Relating Songs To Known/Assumed Relationships
I respect your opinions but I can't help but immediately refute them:
1. Just because she only explicitly names one guy, first and surname, in all the songs she's written doesn't mean she isn't writing about others. LBR, try rhyming something with "Mizrahi". I will point out that she qualified VG, BTD, and BJ as a trilogy, but not a trilogy about the same man. There's a rather lengthy post within expanding on that, if you're open to giving it a look.
2. She's said a lot of damn things, to be honest. The count goes up to two when you consider that she also said "Video Games" is about two different guys. And while "Blue Jeans" may be vague in it's criminal references, Sirens certainly isn't, although I'm interested in hearing you explain how "Now he's in a jail cell for some thirty years now / Is this what you wished, to be serving time?", "K's a friend of mine, I think about him as he does time", and "Last year they decided that his time was up and he got re-tried / Double homicide / Now he's onto death row, not to hang around, though / Is this what you wished, did you wanna die?" are some grand metaphors for Jimmy.
I would say that Jimmy was an important guy. But I think they all were--at least, K, Mike, and Jimmy. I'd even agree that a lot of Born to Die is likely about him, but to discredit her long-term relationship with Mike and some glaring, obvious references to prison that totally avoid any subtlety at all just because something she said in an interview is not so wise in these analyses.
And I absolutely refuse to incite a race war in this thread, those posts were the epitome of harmless speculation.
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cheaptrailertrashglm liked a post in a topic by Sitar in LANALYSIS: Relating Songs To Known/Assumed Relationships
It's not a wish for her to be a Lolita, Jimmy Gnecco and Mike Mizrahi are both like a decade or more older than her.
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cheaptrailertrashglm liked a post in a topic by Sitar in LANALYSIS: Relating Songs To Known/Assumed Relationships
Or she wants Barrie to be her "full-time daddy" because, well..."singing blues has been getting old".
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cheaptrailertrashglm liked a post in a topic by Sitar in LANA SLEUTHING
Barrie James O'Neill, and the last mention of them being in a relationship seems to be from May...
Although Lana Del Rey Online tweeted this just today:
Lana Del Rey Online @LanaDReyOnline
Lana Del Rey is off to Scotland next week to spend time with her bestfriends, including Barrie-James O'Neill of Kassidy
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Fuck Our Generation liked a post in a topic by Sitar in Connect The Lana Songs!
Never Let Me Go to Scarface - "Scarface"
Scarface to On Our Way - "red white and blue" lyrics
Scarface being the key to all
National Anthem to Disco....
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Embach liked a post in a topic by Sitar in Connect The Lana Songs!
Never Let Me Go to Scarface - "Scarface"
Scarface to On Our Way - "red white and blue" lyrics
Scarface being the key to all
National Anthem to Disco....
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cheaptrailertrashglm liked a post in a topic by Sitar in LANALYSIS: Relating Songs To Known/Assumed Relationships
Welcome to LANALYSIS, where we get real unhealthy in our obsessions and absolutely revel in it.
This is a project I've been maintaining for a while now--Lana + Analysis...get it? The basic purpose is to relate every one of her songs (that's right, every last one of them) to her known and assumed relationships. Not a stone is left unturned. Privacy is violated. The fans rejoice. Mind you, it’s all pure speculation, but ~this is what makes us stans~
It’s pretty long but an interesting read, if I do say so myself. I hope you enjoy it in all it’s updated glory, and I will continue to update as new information is revealed and new songs come out. I will also be adding pictures, sources, etc. Stay tuned!
Let’s get started!
EARLY RELATIONSHIPS (1985 - ~2005)
LOCAL ROCKSTARS (~2005 - 2009)
YOU MADE ME NICE FOR A WHILE (2009 - 2011)
POST-BREAKTHROUGH (2011+)
IN THE LAND OF DISCREPANCIES
ADVANCED LANALYSIS
IN SUMMARY..
Lingering questions…
- Who the fuck is K?
- Who the fuck is Ray?
- Who the fuck is Bill? Is Bill really K? Does Bill matter at all?
- What significance do cars play? She mentions eight in total (white Corvette, white Pontiac, blue Chevy Nova/Chevrolet, Cadillac convertible, Mercedes, pickup truck, Lamborghini, Bugatti Veyron)
- When was she/who was she with in New York City and New Jersey? Ditto LA? Most mysterious and pressing, her time in the South?
- Did she have a fling with Bradley Soileau?
- Did Chris C. matter enough to her for her to write songs about him?
Assumptions Made:
- Lana was a gogo dancer.
- K is a drug dealer/murderer, dead or on death row.
- Jimmy is her ex-fiancé, addicted to cocaine despite a Wikipedia page stressing how healthy he is, associated with Chevrolets.
- Much of Sirens is about completely different relationships.
- She fucked Bradley.
- Mike controlled her career but their relationship wasn’t associated with anything fucked up like drugs or stripping.
Thanks for reading! I crave both your feedback and theories! This remains a forum collaboration and I don't claim to have the final say on Lanalytical manners.
For the sake of believability, I'm always hunting receipts, and currently:
- The interview where she refers to "Yayo" as the prequel to "Video Games"
- The interview where she describes "Video Games" as dealing with mutual sobriety in a relationship--her and her partner both staying clean.
- The interview where she talks about meeting her boyfriend in rehab and being dazzled by his small-scale celebrity.
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Fuck Our Generation liked a post in a topic by Sitar in Song vs. Song
Gogo Dancer
Gogo Dancer vs. Cola
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Fuck Our Generation liked a post in a topic by Sitar in Song vs. Song
No :imbeingsarcasticbitch2:
Fake Diamond
Fake Diamond vs. Prom Song