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Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
Crimson and Clover replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
...yeah. As a big BTD fan, it’s not a very good album lol and I can see why it usually gets the worst reviews out of all her albums. The (over)production is very unnecessary (TWMUG, Dark Paradise ahem), the reverb makes me cringe, but the era was amazing and I think that’s why we all love BTD (especially comparing it to the more than lackluster NFR "era"). With other people though, BTD is my guilty pleasure because songs like Million Dollar Man, Summertime Sadness, Dark Paradise, etc are kinda cheesy? This is coming from someone who loves BTD, but it’s kinda meh to call BTD peak Lana lol Carmen is always my star though wow -
Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
Crimson and Clover replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
imagine thinking this when venice bitch and high by the beach exist -
Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
Crimson and Clover replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
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Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
Crimson and Clover replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
realistically it should be NFR right? -
Dublin, Ireland @ Malahide Castle - June 22, 2019
Crimson and Clover replied to nationalxanthem's topic in 2019 Performances
he goes to my university, which is private and super expensive, so I wouldn’t be surprised (I see him every once in a while and have to gag sometimes) -
Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
Crimson and Clover replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
she says it so nonchalantly I love and hate her -
Dublin, Ireland @ Malahide Castle - June 22, 2019
Crimson and Clover replied to nationalxanthem's topic in 2019 Performances
no one was recording probably because she was doing a btd song -
Dublin, Ireland @ Malahide Castle - June 22, 2019
Crimson and Clover replied to nationalxanthem's topic in 2019 Performances
SING A SONG FROM IT NOW BINCH -
Dublin, Ireland @ Malahide Castle - June 22, 2019
Crimson and Clover replied to nationalxanthem's topic in 2019 Performances
IM SCREAMING -
Dublin, Ireland @ Malahide Castle - June 22, 2019
Crimson and Clover replied to nationalxanthem's topic in 2019 Performances
It’s like that in certain parts of Europe, I was confused about that too when I went to London. It’s because their pretty far up north I think -
Dublin, Ireland @ Malahide Castle - June 22, 2019
Crimson and Clover replied to nationalxanthem's topic in 2019 Performances
I would literally hate being on that bus -
Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
Crimson and Clover replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
I definitely respect your opinion. Old Money is one of my favorite songs ever, but I really do enjoy Hope’s lyrics in particular due to the references/parallels to Sylvia Plath’s writings, specifically The Bell Jar and her journals. This is coming from someone who is a big fan of Plath’s writings however so my opinion is different from many, but I thought the way she wrote the lyrics were genius (other than the iPad line yikes). -
Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
Crimson and Clover replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
while I adore Old Money, the lyrics are Lana cliche to the max. Colors? Check. Cars? Check. Hollywood reference? Check. $$$? Check. New York? Check. Queen of x? Check. And that’s just the first verse. Along with this, the song samples What is a Youth by Nino Rota, which I’m sure has had an influence on the lyrics and direction she chose. -
Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
Crimson and Clover replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
IYC really will leave me speechless. Imagine how dreamy and psychedelic it can be -
Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
Crimson and Clover replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
I think holistic picture matters as well (but this is coming from someone whose favorite song is VB, so I might be biased lol). Born to Die and National Anthem both have trip hop elements and somewhat outdated production and sampling to them, and are associated with the glamorous image she was trying to portray at that time (she was literally portraying herself as Jacky O, Marilyn Monroe, and the Queen of Heaven in these videos). They also are much more chamber pop, and the sound is pretty identifiable with the pop of the early 2010’s (Lorde, etc). Venice Bitch on the other hand has quite clear influences of 70s folk rock, which in my opinion is a more adult sound of her music, and this further signified by the 10 minute length. I think maybe it’s just the nostalgic sound of it that makes me think differently of it from other other songs. I guess what I’m really trying to say is that I associate BTD songs with early 2010 pop, while I associate NFR songs with 70s and 90s folk rock and jazz (MAC reminds me HEAVILY of Fade Into You by Mazzy Star, HTD reminds me of Crosby, Stills, and Nash, VB reminds me of the Beatles and Simon and Garfunkel, NFR song sounds like a Fiona Apple song, and her other songs just really have a sound that we haven’t heard from her before, so it’s exciting for me). -
Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
Crimson and Clover replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
How to Disappear is about how life goes on and coping with its negative events. Venice Bitch also reminds me of just aging in general (“and as the summer fades away...back in the garden, were getting high now, because we’re older”). -
Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
Crimson and Clover replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
also this HAS to hint the album’s coming or at least we have to get some info because she teased the actual title track? I hope?? ( -
Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
Crimson and Clover replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
This is coming from someone who hasn't really cared about Lana's absence due to my own life being busy. Honestly, Lana is changing. I may just be pulling this out of my ass, but most of the songs she's been teasing/released could really belong in an adult contemporary album (I've always thought Love was the first one to really have this sound), and I think it's because she's getting older. I also think she's trying to distance herself away from the tumblr reputation she's had all these years because other people didn't take her serious because of it. NFR (title song) really reminds me of Fiona Apple's songs, such as Why Try to Change Me Now. The moment the strings start to build up is absolutely breathtaking by the way. -
the Fiona apple jumped out wow
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Minor General Questions that Don't Deserve Their Own Thread
Crimson and Clover replied to Monicker's topic in Lana Thoughts
what are the differences between all the West Coast versions again? Like the single, the album, the Rob Orton, and the early mixes? -
Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
Crimson and Clover replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
i feel like is needed every other page -
it’s chill I like it
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Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
Crimson and Clover replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
“I’m really excited for Violets Bent Backwards Over the Grass. Oh yeah and I have a side project Norman Fucking Rockwell. I’m excited I guess but who knows when it’ll come out. Ciao xx” -
Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
Crimson and Clover replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
Y’all are so negative lol -
Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
Crimson and Clover replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
anyways stream Venice Bitch