Monicker

Don't vorry, ve have other vays of making you overshare, BWAhahahaha...

Come on you sadistic German/Count of Transylvania, don't do me like this.

Do tell!

It's just the simple idea that creating and following our own imposed boundaries can be a healthy part of our lives by providing self-discipline and acting as a sort of guide/compass in our lives and what we do, but that they're never static--we're always reevaluating and adjusting our boundaries, remaining open to inevitably changing them as we grow, hence limitless. Makes a lot of sense, i reckon. Yes?

The intro of this song sounds a lot like Prince's Sign "O" The Times [interesting and unrelated side note: Prince somehow is able to not allow ANY of his recordings on YouTube. Go ahead and try to find one Prince studio recording on YT.] filtered through early 80s Phil Collins.

Also, both the pre-chorus and chorus melodies sound just like something else, but i haven't been able to place either of these two yet.

What i want to know is what/where is Go Go Dancer 1.0.

Also, this is really funny and great:

Scott said...

Is her name Lana Del Ray or Lana Del Rey? The CD I downloaded says Del RAY. But the Myspace says Del REY. I'm confused, to say the least. I know in Spanish, her name literally tanslates to Wool of the King... if you spell it Lana Del Rey. But the CD cover reads Lana Del Ray AKA Lizzy Grant. Confused. MAY 26, 2010 1:24 PM

It's a tricky situation. A lot of people lean toward cohesiveness (or their idea of what that means) and believe that an album has greater value when it sounds cohesive--that it’s a greater, stronger work as a result of that. But a lot of other people enjoy and prefer a more varied sound. Just how varied exactly? Well, your mileage will vary.

You know what’s cool though? Having an album that is homogenous in sound and another that’s not. She’s young. Her career, as far as the public’s eye, is nascent. I think time will be very kind to her, both with critics and hardened fans. Think about, 10, 15, 20 (!) years from now when Born to Die is one brick in a wall, one patch in a quilt. Hindsight and a different context can alter one’s perception a lot, and reappraising things periodically is part of the game. Imagine if when she has, say, 8 albums out, one of those is even more homogenous in sound than BTD--say an entire album accompanied only by piano; and another one of those albums is so varied in style that it sounds as if you’re listening to a compilation of various artists. And there will probably come a time when she has some archival stuff officially released--another way in which our perception of both the parts and its sum can change. Who knows.

She may scale back on making so many alternate versions of songs, but i highly doubt that she is going to abandon the practice entirely. By the way, some of those alternate versions of songs are demos, eg. Video Games. I’m sure she will at least keep recording demos, in the true sense of the word.

Not sure that any of us can really say how any song was "originally intended to be heard." What do we know?

P.S. Madrigal, i think the NA album vocals might be flown in from the second version, but i’m not positive; i have to listen to/compare them again sometime.

To be honest I thought you were a 16 yo boy...

Jesus.

Despite being totally against the idea of a "member of the week" (hint hint: don't ever nominate me again or i'll sneak into every mod's house in the middle of the night and rearrange the furniture so as to totally confuse you) i voted for PrettyBaby because i wanted to hear what she had to say.

P.S. The other day in yoga we were talking about limitless boundaries.

Clairvoyance is one hell of a force.

Are we able to add emoticons as mods yet?

No but that will be the biggest perk of the job if we can

Have you all figured out what you actually do?

So, i finally realized what the hell the chorus of Burning Desire is:

LOL, Lizzy, good one!

HEY PARENTS, YOU HAVE NOW BEEN ADVISED, THIS IS FUCKING EXPLICIT.

You guys, i think a lot of what some of you are hearing as vocal "processing" is just compression artifacts, which there are a LOT of because these clips are compressed to death. The sound quality of everything we've heard so far is absolutely wretched. Let's wait until we can properly play the CD. I've listened to Burning Desire and Ride once and that's all i'm going to do because the quality is intolerable.

What we need now is for someone to make blatantly racist remarks and then get a lot of heat for it and then try to make up for it by jumping through hoops to buy an iTunes download from another country and then share it with everyone.

Though i'm not really advocating one person supplying us all with the song. PATIENCE, guys.

I don't think you touched on Bel-Air though...?

Don’t know what to say other than i think it sounds great. I love the piano, everything about it--compositionally, the chord changes, the way it's voiced, how it's arpeggiated and the upper range it's played in, and it's recorded perfectly. It's really, really beautiful. The whole tone of this section of music is really hitting on something magical. This is very LA sounding and i would have thought that without knowing the title. It seems to be channeling her love for more contemporary film scores, too.

Re: Body Electric: I’m happily surprised by how close this sticks to the performances we’ve been hearing since June. I was hoping that it would be mostly like the live performances with just a few subtle overdubs (and my dream harpsichord, dammit!) and this sounds like it's going to be just that. So relieved that it's not overproduced or given an "edgy" arrangement. My only gripe is her vocal performance, but it's not that big of a gripe. She just kind of sounds like she's phoning it in, going through the motions, until the "we get down" part, which is great and unrestrained. She's rushing it a little too. I think she should have sung it slightly behind the beat, but it's not that huge of a deal. No effects that i can hear on her voice, other than reverb, which is much better than what they used on Yayo.

She’s going to get so much more critical acclaim for this than BTD. Mark my words. Some camps are going to start looking at her differently.

Putting aside the compressed-to-death terrible audio in these clips, here are some of my thoughts, both positive and negative:

OH MY FUCKING GOD, I THINK THEY GOT BODY ELECTRIC RIGHT. Seems like it’s going to be a tasteful arrangement and non-offensive production. PHEW. I really cannot wait to hear the string outro. I would’ve never called that the final vocal take though, not such a great vocal from the little we can hear here, though i am glad she doesn't sound as restrained as she usually does on record and that she is singing more how she does live. Please god though, fulfill my dream of a harpsichord coming in on the second verse when everything sounds like bones falling off a skeleton and crashing to the floor.

The piano is recorded INFINITELY better on these batch of songs than on BTD. That’s how it should’ve been recorded from the get-go.

I think her vocals on some of these are a little too over-emotive. They should have gotten more vocal takes out of her. I know i would have

The reverb on Yayo sucks my ass. That is like the worst of the worst, cheap digital reverb. Oy. However, that is how you record a piano, dude. Thank goodness. Shitty quality reverb aside, Yayo might not be a train wreck after all!

The first song has a Tom Waits ballad feel to it. This sounds really, really nice! The drums are understated and great.

American seems like it’s going to be a grower.

Gods & Monsters sounds really promising but dear god, the snare sound is hideous, oy. That kick drum-snare pattern sounds so stupid too. This shit should have timpani for sure. Where’s has your love for timpani gone, Lizzy?

Oh my god, COLA. I am floored. Everything about it, the sublime string quartet (thank fucking god for real strings, though too much fucking stereo separation, Emile, argh), the lovely tremolo guitar (though i wish this silly obsession with double tracking everything would subside), the insane, incongruous lyrics. This shit is going to be fucking amazing. I have just used the word fucking a lot.

Also, Rick Rubin?! Really? Interesting.

I am thoroughly enthused. Believe it or not.

If Emile Haynie lays a finger on Yayo, I'm gonna go postal. And if A-TL is on it... you don't even want to know what will happen.

 

I'm also saddened that the inclusion of Yayo probably means a re-release of AKA at some point is even more unlikely.

I'm not kidding, the very first thing i thought when i clicked the spoiler and saw Yayo in the track list was YOU haaa. I thought, "Oh man, evilentity is going to have a fucking cow." A lot of people are, i think. I mean, come on, we're talking about what is probably her most beloved song and you know it's going to be totally ruined somehow with this version. Do we even need to pull out the track record? Naw. I hope i'm dead wrong, of course.

And yes, i think its inclusion precludes AKA from being re-released. Or rather, i think it means it's off the radar for a re-release any time soon, and by soon i mean years. Should she die, god forbid (let's all collectively knock on wood) the album would no doubt be re-released though, along with some archival releases. They could really, REALLY milk posthumous archival releases, and most certainly will if she goes young. Anyway, let's not talk about anyone dying. Also though, if in some years she's still going very strong and has garnered critical acclaim and really sustained her popularity, i can see an AKA re-release. Anyway, i really want to know the reasoning behind including this song of all possible songs. It's bizarre.

BUT OH MY FUCKING GOD. I AM FUCKING... WORDS CANT DESCRIBE...

Wait, you're fucking? While posting on the forum?!

Yayo~.. GO!

Yayu~.. SHAW!

 

Yayo~.. YEA YEAH!

How now~... HOW NOW!

This is the best thing ever. Dale Cooper is our lifeline.

Yayo ... i would love to know the thought behind putting it on the album

Me too, very much so.

And again:

So many people are going to be SO pissed with whatever form Yayo takes on in this release. SO PISSED.

Lyrically speaking, i've always thought of Lana Del Rey, first and foremost, as a storyteller. Not, say, in the sense of Tom Waits, whose lyrics read more like short stories, and one doesn't ever really wonder if he's singing about people, places, and situations from his own life. I think with Lana it's a lot more apparent that her subject matter is drawn from her life, but it's always puzzled me that so many people take every word completely as autobiographical truth. Almost as if that gives the lyrics more value somehow. I suspect she embellishes quite a bit, and i don't find anything "wrong" with that, nor does it make her and her songs less interesting or valid. I think that, as is the case with most everything, the truth lies somewhere in the middle. That said, when it comes to Lana Del Rey, i'm not terribly interested in the truth and details of her past and personal life. I'm just a music d00d at the end of the day.

The album isn't out yet, don't trash it already. Breath Monicker, I think you're still under shock.

You're right. I'm going to go for a walk, haaa. But to be fair, i wasn't exactly trashing it--just giving my initial impressions and observations in a rambling way. But yeah, i shall breathe and carry on. U R BOSS, LILY.

These titles are pretty bad and i’m disappointed that the longer titles were shortened. Ride, Cola, and Gods & Monsters are eXXXplicit, dawg. So many people are going to be SO pissed with whatever form Yayo takes on in this release. SO PISSED. Why would she even rerecord this song for this release? Is she insane? Does this mean that AKA is definitely remaining in oblivion? She already, so early in her public career, reminds me of one legendary music group (who i shall not name) who is notorious for continually making the wrong decisions and endlessly frustrating their fans.

Two discs, obviously. Don’t see how it couldn’t be. It’s nice that it’s nine tracks, but at the same time the nature of this release strikes me as kind of stupid. Why not add a few more and call it a new album? It almost seems as if she’s trying to box herself into the mold that the media and public know her by from her recent rise to fame.

The running times on tracks 1-15 are ever so slightly different (1 to 2 second differences on some) which, i think, either means: a) they’ve been inputed incorrectly by iTunes or they're only listing the actual running time of the music sans any silence, b) the space in between tracks was tinkered with a little for this release, or c) they could be longer/shorter fades (and if so that might very well mean that they even did additional things/changes to the recordings). Any word on the first fifteen tracks? They should be exactly the same masters as BTD, right?

That Burning Desire clip is doing nothing for me. That melody is so generic Maybe it’ll be a grower though. Hope so. It’s weird, i almost feel as if i’m listening to a drone. It sounds so brickwalled. Oh well, it’s top 40 music, what am i expecting.

I’m not sure if the the album cover is somehow good or if it’s atrocious. I'm very confused about this. I guess it would be a nice touch if it was a cardboard slipcase and the gold was embossed. It kind of seems like a caricature though, a self-parody. At least the color correction is not heinous like in those Nicole Nodland Summertime Sadness promo shots. Though the airbrushing of her skin makes me want to go off the grid and live a hermetic life atop a very far away mountain.

At any rate, i'm still very excited for this release.

0mg but pussy iznt 0n derrr, i th0t 3vrythng wuz r3al

...if we can avoid the drama.

Better turn the computer off and get far, far away from the interwebz of hyperreality.

Hey all you new mods: Is there a feature i can use where it will just automatically like every post from the Auto-Tuned Loon? This asshole's on a roll.

And yet it's still better than anything Emile Haynie's done for her.

I beg to differ. That H&M clip to me sounds like the most perfunctory shat-out-in-ten-minutes kind of writing, arranging, engineering, and producing. Sounds like cheap Morricone by the numbers made quickly for a TV cue. Blargh.

 

 

:smiles:

 

read him.

I seldom know what it is that you're communicating. Do you think this speaks of you or of me?

Tipper Gore and the PMRC thrivin' in 2012.

Also, what is that tire swing hanging from, a magic cloud?

You guys remember the instrumental playing during the H&M behind the scenes? I think it is Ride instrumental

 

http://youtu.be/E8kfyeCyf5o

 

The instrumental is upbeat, cowboy-ish. it totally fits the single cover. Dont u guys think?

When i first heard that the other day, my first thought was how that is some of the most generic, stock sounding music. It totally sounds written, arranged, and produced to be used for some sort of TV spot.

Searching for the delete button on your profile right now

Delete PrettyBaby's profile and i will swiftly delete your food and water, your scratching post, ALL your toys, and i will completely remove that door frame that you insist on mashing your face into every hour. This pseudo authority has totally gone to your head.