Ethel Cain

[Nicolas377 222]

does Hayden ever made a cover of "have you seen me" by nicole dollanganger? i found a file (that sounds pretty convincing) tagged under White Silas. i dont find any info about its existence so maybe its fake but i saw some people here know about things...

[Ethel Cain 9,215]

1 hour ago, Nicolas377 said:

does Hayden ever made a cover of "have you seen me" by nicole dollanganger? i found a file (that sounds pretty convincing) tagged under White Silas. i dont find any info about its existence so maybe its fake but i saw some people here know about things...

Its fake

[Nicolas377 222]

2 minutes ago, Ethel Cain said:

Its fake

thanks

[dxughterofcxin 27]

I need Ethel Cain to cover all of natural born losers right neow.

[fl0r1dakil0s 21,961]

actually sick and tired of these stan twitter fags trying to "cancel" her for things she posted when she was like 15 and didn't think anybody would see it's so annoying like.. the faggotry is on ANOTHER level with these hoes  

 

https://x.com/tatemcraves/status/1891568075238953001?s=46&t=w9cCNaJUxFOFqgWg4aEj3Q

[dxughterofcxin 27]

5 hours ago, fl0r1dakil0s said:

actually sick and tired of these stan twitter fags trying to "cancel" her for things she posted when she was like 15 and didn't think anybody would see it's so annoying like

I feel like people are so quick to jump onto shit that she said so long ago bc she's starting to become more mainstream and they think this is the best way to "gatekeep" her. like hun no.. I don't wanna know the shit you were posting when you were 15 (which let's be honest, was like 6 months ago), because I'm sure it wasn't much better than the shitposting Hayden was engaging in 

[Veinsineon 78,677]

There was a post of a drawing of a literal child tied up in bondage talking about some he always gets punished by the priests or something. She’s a sycophant. Disgusting. Thats the last thing I’ll ever say on her.

[traleon 4]

17 hours ago, Veinsineon said:

There was a post of a drawing of a literal child tied up in bondage talking about some he always gets punished by the priests or something. She’s a sycophant. Disgusting. Thats the last thing I’ll ever say on her.

 

>a LITERAL CHILD!
<a chibified version of her sketchbook OC who is a 19 year old man

 

do you know the definitions of "literal" and "child"?

[lakeemmahottie 1,919]

On 2/18/2025 at 12:56 AM, dxughterofcxin said:

I feel like people are so quick to jump onto shit that she said so long ago bc she's starting to become more mainstream and they think this is the best way to "gatekeep" her. like hun no.. I don't wanna know the shit you were posting when you were 15 (which let's be honest, was like 6 months ago), because I'm sure it wasn't much better than the shitposting Hayden was engaging in 

i'll never understand the mentality of gatekeeping by sabotaging someone you claim to stan. the vaporwave community does this alot its so fucking corny

[dxughterofcxin 27]

19 hours ago, Veinsineon said:

There was a post of a drawing of a literal child tied up in bondage talking about some he always gets punished by the priests or something. She’s a sycophant. Disgusting. Thats the last thing I’ll ever say on her.

girl, let's use our context clues! it was an original character, the character was of age, and there are people drawing a lot worse on Twitter, and nobody is calling them out. also babes, idk if you think sycophant means what you think it means- it's literally someone who is trying to appeal to someone with more status so they themselves can gain more advantages. how would she be a sycophant 

[dxughterofcxin 27]

2 hours ago, lakeemmahottie said:

i'll never understand the mentality of gatekeeping by sabotaging someone you claim to stan. the vaporwave community does this alot its so fucking corny

it's absolutely insane. if i'm a fan of someone, I want them to be successful while people are still characterizing the artist correctly and appreciating their music as it is, and not trying to bring them down. it's not hard to support a rising artist and be thankful that their work is being shared, as long as the message of the art is still intact (which is something Hayden has critiqued fervently).

[Demonmic03 12,359]

37 minutes ago, dxughterofcxin said:

girl, let's use our context clues! it was an original character, the character was of age, and there are people drawing a lot worse on Twitter, and nobody is calling them out. also babes, idk if you think sycophant means what you think it means- it's literally someone who is trying to appeal to someone with more status so they themselves can gain more advantages. how would she be a sycophant 

Frrrr, but hey... people love to hate on anyone these days

[Demonmic03 12,359]

21 hours ago, Veinsineon said:

There was a post of a drawing of a literal child tied up in bondage talking about some he always gets punished by the priests or something. She’s a sycophant. Disgusting. Thats the last thing I’ll ever say on her.

Yet you'll stream Melanie whose alot worse then Ethel about literal child stuff...

Look I'm not trying to hate on you or be rude but that's a little hypocritical.

[dxughterofcxin 27]

16 minutes ago, Demonmic03 said:

Yet you'll stream Melanie whose alot worse then Ethel about literal child stuff...

Look I'm not trying to hate on you or be rude but that's a little hypocritical.

exactly... like let's look at the crybaby coloring book compared to punish. one is a near fetishization of kids, while one is an interpretation of a case, with actual storytelling. Hayden has had her moments, and nobody is denying that. but this nitpicking and "cancellations" oftentimes seem like either misinterpretations of work or a lack of critical thinking and use of context clues. we can acknowledge that someone created something out of touch or insensitive, but you have to be willing to do that for everyone, not just certain people. otherwise, you don't really care about the topic and the portrayal of uncomfortable topics. we can also recognize that Hayden was a lot younger, while some things that Melanie has done in recent years has been while she's a grown woman. nobody can critique someone's footprint while defending another individual's content, or else you don't truly get offended by it. 

[Coloringbooks 14,266]

2 hours ago, Demonmic03 said:

Yet you'll stream Melanie whose alot worse then Ethel about literal child stuff...
Look I'm not trying to hate on you or be rude but that's a little hypocritical.

1 hour ago, dxughterofcxin said:

exactly... like let's look at the crybaby coloring book compared to punish. one is a near fetishization of kids, while one is an interpretation of a case, with actual storytelling. we can also recognize that Hayden was a lot younger, while some things that Melanie has done in recent years has been while she's a grown woman.

Or maybe let's compare the actual drawings being discussed?  How is this fetishisation but not this:

"The priests like to keep him chained up"? The implication is that this is an altar boy. On top of that, the caption says the (underaged looking) victim is enjoying it. 

 

Nobody was talking about Melanie Martinez before y'all brought her up to deflect, but I think bias is playing into it if you say Melanie's is "worse". Ethel's drawing was posted to a private instagram account dedicated to pornographic NSFW artwork. The confirmation of it being sexually-motivated fetish art makes it inherently worse than Melanie's, a storybook where nothing sexual happens. And for clarity - Melanie didn't draw hers', but at the time of its release, she was the exact same age as Ethel was when posting this photo. Both 19-20 years old.

 

Even if it's a 'chibi' like the 2024 caption edit claims... chibi porn is still weird, idk. A chibi is a miniature, child-like version of a character- sometimes an actual child. The body, the face, the overall look all reinforce that. Children are often nicknamed "chibi" in Japan. Chibi proportions:

 

I'm not saying anyone needs to be cancelled, but the hypocrisy is showing. I feel like if any other artist posted that - such as Melanie, or even Lana who gets dragged for pedophilia-based songs such as Lolita and Put Me In A Movie - they'd be torn apart. I haven't seen any backlash towards Ethel outside of this thread and its mostly fans defending her.

[Demonmic03 12,359]

15 minutes ago, Coloringbooks said:

Or maybe let's compare the actual drawings being discussed?  How is this fetishisation but not this:

 

"The priests like to keep him chained up"? The implication is that this is an altar boy. On top of that, the caption says the (underaged looking) victim is enjoying it.

Look i never said it's wasn't weird what Ethel drew. But I stand by the hypocriticalness of defending Melanie (when let's face it she's done so many bad things not just the coloring book) yet shaming Ethel for a drawing of a fictional character it's picking and choosing and I don't like that.

[Coloringbooks 14,266]

1 minute ago, Demonmic03 said:

Look i never said it's wasn't weird what Ethel drew. But I stand by the hypocriticalness of defending Melanie (when let's face it she's done so many bad things not just the coloring book) yet shaming Ethel for a drawing of a fictional character it's picking and choosing and I don't like that.

Even if you don't like Melanie Martinez, saying that storybook is "worse" than explicitly pornographic wank-intended content (clearly meant to resemble a child) is a reach and a half.

 

But nobody was talking about / defending her on this thread in the first place. I've never seen Veinsineon defend her at all. You were the first to bring her up and it sounds like deflection from Ethel's drawing being, from your own words, weird.

[Demonmic03 12,359]

1 minute ago, Coloringbooks said:

Even if you don't like Melanie Martinez, saying that storybook is "worse" than explicitly pornographic wank-intended content (clearly meant to resemble a child) is a reach and a half.

Not once did I say I was just talking about melanies storybook, weird...

[Coloringbooks 14,266]

3 minutes ago, Demonmic03 said:

Not once did I say I was just talking about melanies storybook, weird...

I'm not sure what you think is worse than the torture drawing then, but it's @dxughterofcxin who was talking about the storybook thing to distract from Ethel's drawing. I quoted their post alongside yours.

[Demonmic03 12,359]

Just now, Coloringbooks said:

I'm not sure what you think is worse than the torture drawing then, but it's @dxughterofcxin who was talking about the storybook thing. I quoted their post alongside yours.

Well there's those r*pe allegations for one. Then there's her whole crybaby era videos and even some of the songs.