Paradise is an album. Yes or no?

[bvnnysworld 29]

I say yes!
 

I see lots of people arguing about this for some reason? And I just wanted your opinions.

 

Lana’s Spotify description (before it was changed to blank) stated that Born To Die was her debut album (which I agree with) and Ocean Blvd’s album cover states that it is Lana’s 9th album. 
 

Therefore, since BTD is her debut, Paradise would have to be considered an album to make up the 9, no?

1. BTD

2. Paradise

3. UV

4. HM

5. LFL

6. NFR

7. COTCC

8. BB

9. Ocean Blvd

(and 10 obviously TRPWS)

Not only that but it’s listed as an album on Spotify and it does qualify as an album not an EP.

 

I personally believe that Paradise is a separate album!
 

Now I’ve tried to have this conversation with people before but they were always on the defensive for some reason and I was hoping to have a decent normal person conversation with people about this topic.

 

 

[Demonmic03 11,627]

I also think paradise is an album for the most part. More like a double album to born to die (wish it got 1 more song tbh)

[blackenedrussianpoetry 2,632]

It is a separate project. Though I still view it as an EP rather than an album. Lana said in 2012 interviews that it’s a separate body of work (than BTD), and the EP has a separate tour, era etc.
Kinda bothered me when people merged paradise as a part of BTD

 

Plus… paradise is 100000x better than BTD…

[Ice Cream Ice Queen 2,973]

I’ve always considered it an album but maybe I’m biased because it’s my top 3

[motel six 4,719]

i think it counts AKA as her first studio album (and born to die as first major label), making ocean blvd 9th but

i think paradise is an EP that should’ve been an album and we are all free to consider an album and i consider it as such  

[DeadSeaOfMercury 23,633]

No.

It’s an EP.

 

AKA,

BTD,

UV,

HM,

LFL,

NFR,

COCC,

BB,

DYK are the albums…

[bvnnysworld 29]

6 minutes ago, blackenedrussianpoetry said:

It is a separate project. Though I still view it as an EP rather than an album. Lana said in 2012 interviews that it’s a separate body of work (than BTD), and the EP has a separate tour, era etc.
Kinda bothered me when people merged paradise as a part of BTD

 

Plus… paradise is 100000x better than BTD…

I agree I’ve always viewed them as completely different things I feel they have different vibes 

[bvnnysworld 29]

2 minutes ago, DeadSeaOfMercury said:

No.

It’s an EP.

 

AKA,

BTD,

UV,

HM,

LFL,

NFR,

COCC,

BB,

DYK are the albums…

I see a lot people say AKA is her first but her Spotify description stated that BTD was her debut even after acknowledging Sirens and AKA

[DeadSeaOfMercury 23,633]

2 minutes ago, bvnnysworld said:

I see a lot people say AKA is her first but her Spotify description stated that BTD was her debut even after acknowledging Sirens and AKA

Spotify is known to be wrong a lot, And AKA is her first studio album, Even if she pulled it - You can’t change history.

[bvnnysworld 29]

Just now, DeadSeaOfMercury said:

Spotify is known to be wrong a lot, And AKA is her first studio album, Even if she pulled it - You can’t change history.

Considering the artists and their teams can edit their descriptions if they wanted to I would’ve assumed someone would have changed her description if it was wrong but oh well! I’ve never considered AKA as her debut but that’s just me! Have a nice day 🫶

[DeadSeaOfMercury 23,633]

Just now, bvnnysworld said:

Considering the artists and their teams can edit their descriptions if they wanted to I would’ve assumed someone would have changed her description if it was wrong but oh well! I’ve never considered AKA as her debut but that’s just me! Have a nice day 🫶

Edit is the keyword,

[bvnnysworld 29]

1 minute ago, DeadSeaOfMercury said:

Edit is the keyword,

I know that’s why I said it! Have a nice day 

[Dark Angel 204,615]

technically, it's an EP, but i think of it as an album just like born to die or ultraviolence

[jimmyjimmycocoapuff 6,758]

I'm so done with all the EP/Album discussion, people are so nitpicky about it, especially with Ethel Cain's new release. It's come to the point where there's more discussion about "why is this an EP it's 90 minutes" than the actual music itself. I don't see why it matters, it's just a technical thing, a decision made by the artist or the label. It's like bickering over the packaging of a salad, I don't care about the box just lemme eat my fucking salad

[bvnnysworld 29]

6 minutes ago, jimmyjimmycocoapuff said:

I'm so done with all the EP/Album discussion, people are so nitpicky about it, especially with Ethel Cain's new release. It's come to the point where there's more discussion about "why is this an EP it's 90 minutes" than the actual music itself. I don't see why it matters, it's just a technical thing, a decision made by the artist or the label. It's like bickering over the packaging of a salad, I don't care about the box just lemme eat my fucking salad

Fair enough! This was just so I could talk about with people who weren’t gonna get upset if I disagreed with them 

[Nightcall 2,976]

Well if it is, deluxe edition when? 

[Ultra Violet 19,134]

I've always seen it as an EP, since it was also released as one. But whenever someone says "Paradise is my favourite album" i don't try to correct them, because why would you be that bothered Albums, releases, bodies of work, its all the same to me for the most part.

[jimmyjimmycocoapuff 6,758]

4 minutes ago, bvnnysworld said:

Fair enough! This was just so I could talk about with people who weren’t gonna get upset if I disagreed with them 

my comment wasn't a specific slight at this post, just a thing I've noticed in the music community

[Lake Placid 3,475]

I see Paradise as an EP but a completely separate project from BTD with its own vibe, era, tour, etc. Honestly it is anything but an extension/deluxe edition of BTD.

[Vertimus 9,784]

52 minutes ago, Ice Cream Ice Queen said:

I’ve always considered it an album but maybe I’m biased because it’s my top 3

Mine too. Yes, it’s an album, and to me, one of her very best.