Lana, Lorde, & Feminism

[lola 6,617]

most sex talk in pop songs annoys me tbh. it's like they're just singing about it because it's supposedly a taboo (which it isn't at all anymore, what is tbh) and they're trying to be edgy. tired image of a star acting naughtier than we really are~~

[leaked_version 10,498]

most sex talk in pop songs annoys me tbh. it's like they're just singing about it because it's supposedly a taboo (which it isn't at all anymore, what is tbh) and they're trying to be edgy. tired image of a star acting naughtier than we really are~~

...like Rihanna and Miley?

[elllipsis 1,441]

lana's older material definitely sheds more light on her views on the dynamics she likes in a relationship. "let me put on a show for you, daddy", "you can be the baawwss", "beat me and tell me that no one will love you better than you do", "i like your ultra-violent swing, i like it when you treat me mean" etc. etc could all seem a little shocking to people at first imo but the bolded parts show that lana wants all of this and she's telling her guy what whe wants to do/wants him to do/will let him do. she's not being oppressed by some bad man, she's choosing to be submissive. on btd, she doesn't rly talk about this and could be misunderstood

 

This kinda reminded me what they say about BDSM relationships that 'the submissive is the one with the power'. It's true.

[lola 6,617]

...like Rihanna and Miley?

for example 

[leaked_version 10,498]

I think it comes with the territory. Rihanna and Miley get away with it because nobody takes them serious. They are just powerhorse selling machines with zero depth.

Lana on the other hand sees herself as an artist and she touches these topics in a different way, but because people tend to dismiss sex without love and simply call it porn / porn fantasies, critics refuse to give her respect for expressing her desire for a dominant male or the explicit lyrics.

[lauradelxx 1,080]

 

 

“What really got me is this ridiculous, unrelatable, unattainable opulence that runs throughout. Lana Del Rey is always singing about being in the Hamptons or driving her Bugatti Veyron or whatever, and at the time, me and my friends were at some house party worrying how to get home because we couldn’t afford a cab.

 

 

 

I like Lorde and everything don't get me wrong she has an amazing talent for someone so young and age but she is 16 it is just a song lyric. Lana does not make music for those who do not understand it. Clearly she has not listened to ride because if that's not real I don't know what that is.

 

 

Again I do like Lorde I'm just saying what imo

[FROGGO 2,803]

lol do we always have to do this? who cares if Lana is a feminist, a democrat, a supporter of equal rights, racist, culturally appropriating, a role model, whatever. 

 

too much OVERdiscussing         
 

[TrailerParkDarling 5,680]

lol do we always have to do this? who cares if Lana is a feminist, a democrat, a supporter of equal rights, racist, culturally appropriating, a role model, whatever. 

 

too much OVERdiscussing         

 

 

lol isn't that what a forum is about...

[lola 6,617]

lol do we always have to do this? who cares if Lana is a feminist, a democrat, a supporter of equal rights, racist, culturally appropriating, a role model, whatever. 

 

too much OVERdiscussing         

 

this is a lana del rey fan forum, we have a 46 page thread dedicated to assumptions about her love life. this is an interesting topic imo, not just about lana's or lorde's views on feminism and empowerment but also our position on the subject. and i don't think we've overdiscussed at all so far

[FROGGO 2,803]

lol isn't that what a forum is about...

no. we are here to talk about music releases and videos and relevant things lol 

 

why do we need to go so deep into everything lol

 

this is a lana del rey fan forum, we have a 46 page thread dedicated to assumptions about her love life. this is an interesting topic imo, not just about lana's or lorde's views on feminism and empowerment but also our position on the subject. and i don't think we've overdiscussed at all so far

 

omg are you guys "feminists"??? that would explain A LOT. u guys are always angry about something

[TrailerParkDarling 5,680]

no. we are here to talk about music releases and videos and relevant things lol 

 

why do we need to go so deep into everything lol

 

 

omg are you guys "feminists"??? that would explain A LOT. u guys are always angry about something

 

 

i genuinely can't tell if u r being sarcastic or not lol... *looks at your posts in the LDR announces tropico thread* 

[FROGGO 2,803]

i genuinely can't tell if u r being sarcastic or not lol... *looks at your posts in the LDR announces tropico thread* 

 

[lola 6,617]

omg are you guys "feminists"??? that would explain A LOT. u guys are always angry about something

???

[FROGGO 2,803]

???

Oh, don't mind me, I was just trying to say the most ignorant, dickish things I could think of  

 

Really though, I don't think I have anything valuable to contribute because my opinions have been posted better than I could've written myself. 

 

Certain mentalities that some people have (like Lana) do trouble me, but at the end of the day, the phrase "YOU DO YOU"  is particularly apt in describing what it is we should each be focused on. 

[TrailerParkDarling 5,680]

Oh, don't mind me, I was just trying to say the most ignorant, dickish things I could think of  

 

Really though, I don't think I have anything valuable to contribute because my opinions have been posted better than I could've written myself. 

 

Certain mentalities that some people have (like Lana) do trouble me, but at the end of the day, the phrase "YOU DO YOU"  is particularly apt in describing what it is we should each be focused on. 

 

 

ok @ me and lola ready 2 pounce on u..  luv ya lots polka dots xoxo

[@paradise 70]

Lorde is right and Im glad she express what she thinks. LDRs songs talk too much about her hanging on men. LDR is  right 2 because she can sing about what she wants 2 and clearly she has an audience that likes her songs. Lord is 16 and from New Zealand a nice calm place compared to the Hamptons/ NY. I like Lorde I think its cool a girl who sings not only about love and guys.

[lola 6,617]

Oh, don't mind me, I was just trying to say the most ignorant, dickish things I could think of  

 

Really though, I don't think I have anything valuable to contribute because my opinions have been posted better than I could've written myself. 

 

Certain mentalities that some people have (like Lana) do trouble me, but at the end of the day, the phrase "YOU DO YOU"  is particularly apt in describing what it is we should each be focused on. 

remove drake from ur hip hop heads folder asap pls ty

[FROGGO 2,803]

remove drake from ur hip hop heads folder asap pls ty

Even this one??

 

 

 

[lola 6,617]

Even this one??

 

 

 

yes #bandrake2013

[rdp 1,240]

The fact that some people are agreeing with that quote about Lana singing about the Hamptons and Buggati Veyron annoys me because it really misses the whole point of "National Anthem". She isn't singing about how much she loves the Hamptons and driving expensive cars. She's clearly playing a character of a girl who's using a rich guy to get her fame and money. And those mentions are just additions to the history.

I mean, "Money is the reason we exist/Everybody knows it /It's a fact/Kiss kiss". Those lyrics are obviously tongue-in-cheek.