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blackenedrussianpoetry liked a post in a topic by TrailerParkDarling in Lana Del Rey and Jim Morrison
It kind of astounds me that Lana Del Rey has never mentioned The Doors' lead singer Jim Morrison before in past interviews- she's quick to mention Elvis or Frank, but not Jim. Before Born to Die: The Paradise Edition was released, she did say that the record was inspired by the West Coast and had a sound similar to The Doors', and of course, she mentions Jim in Gods+Monsters.
Living like Jim Morrison, heading towards a fucked up holiday
Of course, when I first heard this, I was excited- then kind of annoyed. (One reason being that the Jim Morrison tag on Tumblr is full of people's selfies with the Gods+Monsters lyric captioned in italics underneath...sigh) But then myself- and many other Lana fans- questioned the lyric and what it meant exactly- was she referencing her previous fast + hard lifestyle or was she stating her desire to be a tragic icon like Jim?
Being that Jim is my favorite, I thought I would share a few of the similarities I've noticed between the two-
Smoking during performances
Both Lana and Jim were also very wary of audiences to begin with. After a while, Jim became more and more inhibited with his audiences, something Lana has done to an extent, as well.
A preoccupation with death
Lana has been quoted on her fascination with death, stating the inspiration behind her song "Born to Die" came about when she learned that her mother, her father- and everyone else would one day die.
"People fear death even more than pain. It's strange that they fear death. Life hurts a lot more than death. At the point of death, the pain is over. Yeah, I guess it is a friend."- Jim Morrison
"Death and paradise are intertwined for me." - Lana Del Rey
Death & Love are the main inspirations for both Jim and Lana's lyrics.
Favorites
(Elvis, Priscilla, Frank, and the not so gangster Nancy Sinatra)
Mutual favorites of Lana and Jim: Frank+Elvis, Mad Magazine and James Dean
"Mad magazine and white socks" - Lana Del Rey in the song "1949"
Jim read Mad Magazine and Beatnik poetry (Ginsberg and Ferlinghetti- writer of "A Coney Island of the Mind" were among his favorites), and listened mainly to Frank Sinatra and Elvis Presley (He is known to have covered Elvis' "Heartbreak Hotel" & "Love Me Tender", in addition to others)
Lana has been quoted numerous times speaking of her love for Elvis, Sinatra, and Ginsberg.
(Jim Morrison also loved James Dean.James Dean, for sure)
Both also share a passion for philosophy, though I'm not sure who Lana's favorite philosophers are.
Addictions
“It was everything in the end.” - Lana Del Rey on her addictions, although she denied ever using heroin. Lana had a firm support system and was able to beat her addiction with the help of family and friends. Jim Morrison was not so lucky.
Jim's most-loved drug was said to be heroin. He also frequently used LSD in attempts to achieve higher thinking. He was also a terrible alcoholic whose alter-ego "Jimbo" came out when he was drinking. He died from an alleged heroin overdose at the age of 27.
Film
Even though Jim was passionate about music, he desired to be more involved with films, and made several short student films during his time at UCLA as a film student.
"I'd hate to think I'd stop having anything to do with music, but I think that in the future, I'll tend towards an exclusive film involvement."- Jim Morrison
Lana Del Rey has also voiced a desire to work in film.
"When I was starting, I had a vision of being a writer for film and that's what I am doing now. I'm so happy...hopefully, I will branch into film work and stay there." - Lana Del Rey
Indian Reservations
Love casinos, Indian reservations
Not too long ago, Lana spurred some controversy when she appeared in the "Ride" video in an Indian headdress. She also claims to have worked on a Navajo reservation in Utah when she was younger.
Jim claimed to have a spiritual connection with Native Americans, believing that one of their spirits entered his soul when he was four years old when he witnessed a car accident in which an entire family of Native Americans had been badly injured or killed. (A truck which was carrying these Native Americans crashed on the highway and was overturned.) Morrison thought this was the most formative event of his entire life, and this imagery stuck with him in his music (ex. Indian Summer"), poetry, and even in his dancing. The Doors' keyboardist, Ray Manzarek, recalled in his book that when Jim was dancing on stage sometimes, it looked as though Jim was taking on some form of an Indian.
A love for nicknames
Jim Morrison- Mr. Mojo Rising, The Lizard King
Lana Del Rey- Sparkle Jump Rope Queen, Coney Island Queen, etc.
(Ok, I'll admit, some of this is reaching)
Chateau Marmont
(This picture was taken in the closet of Jim's room at the Chateau Marmont)
Both Jim and Lana had a love affair with the Chateau, and lived there for quite some time.
Couch Crashers
Jim Morrison was notorious for crashing on the couches of his friend's homes.(Kurt Cobain did this as well) He never owned a home, preferring to stay in hotels or couches.
In Feb. 2012, Lana Del Rey told The New York Times' T Magazine about her living situation- "Staying with my ex-boyfriend. I live on his couch."
For as much as their styles are similar, they are also vastly different. (Personally, I would have to say that Jim was a better lyricist on the whole, but Lana perhaps a better singer- as far as range goes) Jim was also borderline psychotic (said with love) and Lana seems normal- at least on the surface.
I just think it's interesting how Jim may have influenced Lana Del Rey, in addition to other artists and cinematic works. It seems like in every new generation there is a tragic character- after Jim it was Kurt (someone else Lana has claimed to be inspired by) after Kurt, it was Amy. I think Lana is a physical homage to tragic historical pop culture icons.
What do you guys think? Do you notice any similarities between Lana and other musicians? Another person we could compare Lana with is Priscilla Presley- the hair+ clothing styles, similar cars, - perhaps in attempts to reach Elvis? Where are you when I need you most? (Also may explain her negative responses when compared to Nancy Sinatra, once stating harshly that Frank was the "real musician." Nancy + Elvis were alleged to have had an affair)
"Pick your role models wisely. Find out what they did and do it." -Lana Del Rey
Lana with some losers covering "Roadhouse Blues" by The Doors.
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Sunnies liked a post in a topic by TrailerParkDarling in Lana Del Rey's tattoo copy kittens
upside: something 4 guys 2 read while ya kno~~ like i wonder how that plays out... I guess they just RIDE
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Sunnies liked a post in a topic by TrailerParkDarling in Lana Del Rey's tattoo copy kittens
Some more.. @ the first one, sure her kids will love that lmao
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Sunnies liked a post in a topic by TrailerParkDarling in Lana Del Rey's tattoo copy kittens
Let's just say it's a song that will forever be around and I still regret it! And it's also a lie/ something I don't agree with anymore
I've thought of getting I am my only God somewhere but then I wonder if that's a little too dramatic, maybe I'd get it in french or something
Je suis mon seul dieu
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Sunnies liked a post in a topic by TrailerParkDarling in Lana Del Rey's tattoo copy kittens
Lately I've noticed that many people have been getting tattoos related to Lana Del Rey, either blatantly copying her tattoos
(Usually either the trust no one/ paradise tattoo) + placement or getting LDR's face, signature, or lyrics permanently inked.
(See examples in spoiler)
What do you think about this? Does copying another person's tattoo take away the meaning?
Do you plan on getting a LDR related tattoo/do you currently have one? (If so, what?)
Post more LDR fan tattoos you've seen, etc etc
You probably won't want I was an angel looking to get fucked hard on your wrist a few years from now!
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blackenedrussianpoetry liked a post in a topic by TrailerParkDarling in LANALYSIS: Relating Songs To Known/Assumed Relationships
most of the inspiration behind lana's writing is about video games. she used to be a video game nerd, hence video games.mp3 ~gamer girl~ that song is about a guy she met while playing video games online. if she stopped playing, their luv stopped too! </3
gimme them gold coins
mafiosi hit type
she also had a love affair with GAS STATIONS, especially one named K. it's where she got her beloved diet mountain dew after all
close tha thread! i figured it all out!
im bored at work sry
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blackenedrussianpoetry liked a post in a topic by TrailerParkDarling in LANALYSIS: Relating Songs To Known/Assumed Relationships
I think this song is about mike, just because it's the one relationship that we know (?) didn't end amicably. she still talks to reeve, her and arthur are cool, I mean who knows about jimmy but I hear from his fans that he's the nicest guy ever (yeah ik taking crazy fans for 100%) and i think songs like my best days or you and me are more about jimmy or K...kind of looking back fondly on the relationship kinds of songs. i think mike tried 2 control her singing and eventually she just got tired of it and went off to do her own thing. like in video games she was fine just being with him but then the relationship got fucked up and she wanted to leave like in afraid. then she came back all different and confident (with plastic surgery) and he tried to tear her down again but she was not havin it. idk im a little high hope this makes sense
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blackenedrussianpoetry liked a post in a topic by TrailerParkDarling in LANALYSIS: Relating Songs To Known/Assumed Relationships
Honestly, I saw pictures of her at a festival.. the one where Barrie was there with her, and the way she was touching her nose made me think cocaine.. and I was thinking about how alive she seemed onstage compared to before. Everyone I've talked to who has seen her live said she acted like she was 'on something'.. Also remember she oddly canceled some shows. (She coulda really just been sick) Ah, who knows, I hope not and I hope she's alright. If she did relapse, I could understand why she might wanna quit music
One last thing, I think 'Get Drunk' is about Reeve and Jimmy. They were good friends, have videos performing together, and Lana has been linked to both. Plus, Jimmy and Lana (allegedly) met in AA. Although, I don't know the timelines so I could be 1000% wrong.
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mr borntolose liked a post in a topic by TrailerParkDarling in Lana's drug use/trailer park era
idk which ones of these we've posted in the lizzy pics i can't remember but here are some more from the trailer/drug dayzz
(pre-nose job lol)
^ this may be in lake placid.. not sure
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Cult Leader liked a post in a topic by TrailerParkDarling in Different Titles to Lana's Songs
Last Girl On Earth- No one Lives Forever, Don't You Wanna Fall in Luv?
Noir- Baby Doll is So Sick
Delicious- The Chick You Can't Fuck With
Go Go Dancer- Queen of the Night
Gramma- He's Waiting (A-M-E-R-I-C-A)
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Soso liked a post in a topic by TrailerParkDarling in LANA SLEUTHING
the assemblies of God seems like a v good possiblity! From the looks of it, it can be done on a larger scale, like a huge church service
Lizzy said she always goes on sundays to AG, assembly of God's calender - Prison Sundays /Mission Sundays and they also hold addiction groups, and maybe this is how she got involved w/ homeless outreach. there was one near soho that I found, on east broadway but I guess she was going in London..hmm
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Soso liked a post in a topic by TrailerParkDarling in LANA SLEUTHING
Interesting interview~ http://www.nme.com/blogs/nme-blogs/radar-band-of-the-week-no62-lana-del-rey
Some excerpts:
Blinking under heavy lashes and auburn curls, she laughs when NME asks about the rumours. “I’m not a trapeze artist! Though I was born on the day of the worldly rapture, June 21.” (TPD note- referring to her old Myspace about me)
“I would move people, paint houses, wear sports jackets for pictures in truck magazines. It felt like fighting for survival for such a long time. No money, no place to live – I’ve been in more dangerous situations than other people,” she says, cagily. (referring to her Craigslist jobs- God, we gotta find those truck mags!!!! I look for you in magazines)
Believe It Or Not: Lizzy’s good pals with Marina, who she met over Twitter and bonded with over a love of American culture.
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Soso liked a post in a topic by TrailerParkDarling in LANA SLEUTHING
I REALLY don't understand why any intelligent person would send their child with an addiction problem AWAY. If that were true, I'd understand if Lana held resentment toward them in the past.
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Surf Noir liked a post in a topic by TrailerParkDarling in Sky Ferreira
Let's talk about the
underground pop princess,
Sky Tonia Ferreira
You may know the 20 year old for her pop song "Obsession", which garnered her a small amount of success when it appeared on the soundtrack to the CW show "The Vampire Diaries" back in 2010. However, I think most Sky fans would agree that her music has only gotten better since then. Her sound is similar to that of a young Debby Harry/Shirley Manson/Courtney Love. She even covered Lana Del Rey's "Blue Jeans." Her genre is listed as electropop/dance pop/ indie pop.
This is the music video to one of her ballads entitled "Sad Dream"
On the other end of the spectrum, here is another video for her electronica pop song "Everything is Embarrassing"
You can buy her EP, Ghost, on Amazon now and her highly anticipated
(by loyal fans, anyways) album, I'm Not Alright, is expected to be due out sometime 2013!
What are your favorite/ least favorite Sky songs? Discuss anything and everything Sky related here!
(If anyone would like, I will make you a mix tape featuring some of Sky's 'best' songs.)
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Cult Leader liked a post in a topic by TrailerParkDarling in Fiona Apple
Singer- songwriter Fiona Apple McAfee Maggart burst into the scene with her first commercial hit 'Criminal' in 1996. Her musical style is described as jazz/alternative rock.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFOzayDpWoI
"Her songs are not afraid to get ugly, painful, and even in the most musically accessible moments, there's a touch of dissonance to make everything slightly uncomfortable." - Complex Magazine
Over the course of 17 years, Fiona Apple has released only four albums:
Tidal (1996), When the Pawn... (1999), Extraordinary Machine (2005), and The Idler Wheel... (2012)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BK30r_SIZ-g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beBGsee0WZo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbxqtbqyoRk
Although she is heavily regarded as a mysterious and reclusive person (she disappeared entirely from the entertainment scene for six years between her second and third albums), Fiona Apple is also known for her outspoken and unapologetic nature in her music and with the public.
"This world is bullshit. And you shouldn't model your life over what we think is cool and what we're wearing and what we're saying and everything. Go with yourself." - Fiona Apple, accepting a MTV award in 1997
For anyone who hasn't read it, I recommend reading her full Rolling Stone interview from 1998. Even if you aren't a huge fan, it gives a lot of insight to Fiona's lyrics and complex personality.
(Trigger warning for anyone who chooses to read it)
http://www.neverisapromise.com/interviews/RSJan98.html
This article by Complex is great, as well
http://www.complex.com/music/2012/06/the-fearlessness-of-fiona-apple
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grandpas glass liked a post in a topic by TrailerParkDarling in Underrated Lana Songs
Disco, because a lot of people forget about it :`///
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Embach liked a post in a topic by TrailerParkDarling in Which Paradise Edition Song Are You Most Excited to Hear?
Gods and Monsters and American and Bel Air and everythang
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Embach liked a post in a topic by TrailerParkDarling in Which Paradise Edition Song Are You Most Excited to Hear?
I wanna see what's up with Yayo. Burning Desire seems a little slow tbh.. also American and Ride
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trailerparkdream liked a post in a topic by TrailerParkDarling in LANA SLEUTHING
http://www.flushthefashion.com/music/lana-del-rey-hollywood-sadcore/
Article that shows the other titles Lana had thought of before "Born to Die"
1. G.B.A (God Bless America)
2. Do U Luv Me Yet?
3. The Best of Lana Del Rey
4. The World is Ours
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Feelia liked a post in a topic by TrailerParkDarling in Burning Desire
I actually was annoyed when I first heard it.. thought it was boring but it is growing on me
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ionut liked a post in a topic by TrailerParkDarling in Lana Del Rey and Barrie James O'Neill Duet: "SUMMER WINE"
I can't get over this it's so personal and sweet ^_^
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jellygal liked a post in a topic by TrailerParkDarling in Lana's Old FaceBook/Twitter
(to an old band mate)
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lili liked a post in a topic by TrailerParkDarling in Angels Forever, Forever Angels
Is the sun in your eyes, easy rider?
Do the flame colored skies light your fire?
We are heavy metal lions, they will never understand
The kind of people you or I am, bow your heads and take your hands
They were angels forever, forever angels
They were angels forever, forever angels
Does the ocean inspire, easy rider? Do the stars and the wind take you higher? You are California proud, you are angels of the night Rock 'n' roll guardians now, the last keepers of the light They were angels forever, forever angels They were angels forever, forever angels
Paradise is a hell-colored flame sky Is it nice to feel free and wild? Paradise is the game of do or die I just ride, ride, ride They were angels forever, forever angels
They were angels forever, forever angels
They were angels forever, forever angels
They were angels forever, forever angels
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Lavender Sunshine liked a post in a topic by TrailerParkDarling in Lana Del Rey Performs "Prisoner" with the Weeknd at his Inglewood show
she's not even singing honeymoon though lol. if anything she's reminding us that SHE is alive and breathing
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hayden del rey liked a post in a topic by TrailerParkDarling in LANA SLEUTHING
Post whatever you find about Lana/Lizzy/Lizzi/Lizzie/May on the internet here or just random tidbits people have told you about Lana that you do not have sources for here.
Basically a good way to do it is to search one of her many names and change the year range via google. If you are looking to talk about things that you believe are true/theorize about Lana's life/inspirations/lyrics, see *LANANALYSIS* ..this is just a place to talk about stuff that has been found online/ information that may be true, may not be, who knows.
Some Interesting Articles:
http://neongoldrecor...-dashboard.html
Affirms that she recorded something with "The Knocks" http://pressrepublic...rst-album/print
The original title of LDRakaLG was "God Bless America", talks about Lizzy singing in church choir http://www.huffingto...e_b_159346.html
Talks about her influences and kissing a handsome record exec (presumably Van) http://www.gq.com/en...iew-video-games
Not an old interview really, but it's one of my favorites. She seems to share more with GQ Randomly saw this picture of a guy named "Ray" next to Lizzy.. probably just a coincidence but interesting nonetheless!