Wynwood 19,967 Posted April 7, 2017 well i hope other countries try to interfere with the US if trump takes things too far 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HunterSThompson 4,646 Posted April 7, 2017 I'm proud of all of these LB members for being so engaged & educated, and most importantly: for caring! <3 yay for healthy debate! <3 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HunterSThompson 4,646 Posted April 7, 2017 i can't tell if this is shade or not .. NO SHADE<3 really! I love this debate. I'm glad people care! 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
analwinterofmylife 2,644 Posted April 7, 2017 just saying the president bombing other places aint new gurl..obama has done lots of bombing 2 Quote Instagram: pxpi_gringo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bekim 2,576 Posted April 7, 2017 This is V scary <img data-cke-saved-src="http://i.imgur.com/Us9oFwm.gif"src="http://i.imgur.com/Us9oFwm.gif" /> 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cashcomesquick 5,381 Posted April 7, 2017 that's unfortunate, as Hilary and obama also supported the bombing of assads resources. if we believe in an empathetic interpretation of these actions then why have we not liberated North Korea? why have we ignored the suffering of citizens under oppressive regimes in africa? i don't really believe this is about assad, or syrian citizens, it's about proving a point, or worse, making someone richer. but im just a peace-talks and refugee-intervention kinda gal so what do I know really Sadly, it's not about helping oppressed people but more about being able to access resources (especially oil). You can't bomb people to freedom. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
baddisease 17,942 Posted April 9, 2017 i'm taking Western Civ and we literally just finished our WWII and Cold War units....sexwithme is completely right. without interference, this current world would be a lot different, and a lot less free. a good example would be the policy of Containment against the spread of communism, indoctrined by President Truman i feel like swm's point is being interpretted as "excusing" trump I disagree with the Cold War aspect of this entirely. The policy of containment was horrible and resulted in America backing pseudo-fascists and military strongmen. Examples: Syngman Rhee and Park Chung-hee in South Korea, who were both strongmen who murdered dissidents and political opponents Chiang Kai-shek whose reign in Taiwan resulted in the destruction of civil rights and the murder and imprisoning of anyone opposed to the KMT Augusto Pinochet, the dictator of Chile, murdered thousands of people Containment was a bad policy that only resulted in anti-democratic leaders being propped up abroad. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HunterSThompson 4,646 Posted April 9, 2017 just saying the president bombing other places aint new gurl..obama has done lots of bombing Very, very true but not in this case. US Syria policy is has been steady until now, which is the issue. Two weeks ago & on the campaign trail POTUS said he wouldn't intervene in Syria with bombing, etc. just as Obama hadn't (though he was close to doing so in the "red line" predicament)... flash forward to Assad using chemical weapons on his citizens and POTUS hastily reacts by dropping bombs on an airfield (that actually did NOTHING to stop Assad from using that same airfield to attack Homs days later). So the issue is that he broke long standing Syrian foreign policy all for nothing. He's reactive and unpredictable and it's scary. However, you did bring up a great point that under Obama we've been bombing countries like Yemen for ages and people getting all emotional about us bombing other countries need to realize that we do this under ANY president and we still are under Trump and still would be under Bernie Sanders (RIP to the one who got away) or Hillary Clinton (RIP to the good sis who should've been our president). Still love and miss u Obama even though you've relentlessly bombed countries like Yemen<3 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
baddisease 17,942 Posted April 9, 2017 Very, very true but not in this case. US Syria policy is has been steady until now, which is the issue. Two weeks ago & on the campaign trail POTUS said he wouldn't intervene in Syria with bombing, etc. just as Obama hadn't (though he was close to doing so in the "red line" predicament)... flash forward to Assad using chemical weapons on his citizens and POTUS hastily reacts by dropping bombs on an airfield (that actually did NOTHING to stop Assad from using that same airfield to attack Homs days later). So the issue is that he broke long standing Syrian foreign policy all for nothing. He's reactive and unpredictable and it's scary. However, you did bring up a great point that under Obama we've been bombing countries like Yemen for ages and people getting all emotional about us bombing other countries need to realize that we do this under ANY president and we still are under Trump and still would be under Bernie Sanders (RIP to the one who got away) or Hillary Clinton (RIP to the good sis who should've been our president). Still love and miss u Obama even though you've relentlessly bombed countries like Yemen<3 Hey, if Rand Paul or Gary Johnson won in 2016, or Ron Paul won in 2012... we could very well be out of the middle east altogether. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HunterSThompson 4,646 Posted April 9, 2017 Hey, if Rand Paul or Gary Johnson won in 2016, or Ron Paul won in 2012... we could very well be out of the middle east altogether. "What is Aleppo?" 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites