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  1. Posted

    I actually miss pre-release NFR!, but from the point Doin' Time was announced up to now. That's when the era picked up speed and became iconic (in it's own right)

    when the tracklist was announced, I was in the bathroom at work and screamed when I saw Cinnamon Girl AND The Next Best American Record

    ugh I miss summer 2019 :(

     

    I was so excited when we found out that ALL the snippets were in the album <3 and finally getting TNBAR was like an extra added treat :D 

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    No it’s before the part that sounds vaguely like that Bleachers song. It’s from about 4:00 to 4:20, and it sounds like three increments of saying “cinnamon girl” three times in a distorted red room voice. But I’ve been through this on here already months ago and no one else heard it so I’ve accepted it’s probably something only I can hear. Maybe it is from the red room then haha.

    Now I hear it, but to me I hear cinnamon girl like 6 times hahhaha 

     

    Speaking of the Cinamon Girl outro...Always hear her saying Topanga before the beat kicks in..at 4:24...haven't seen that people talked about it either. But I think that it makes the album more cohesive somehow. The CG outro has some driving/wind noises. Maybe she is on her way to Topanga or drives around in Topanga and then she starts to think about the people that disappeared from her life. Like Joe and that Jim guy. Wasn't Cinnamon Girl about Joe as well? But yeah then she said that she would pick him up if this one specific person would come back to California (we all know that she means Barrie). And then she reminds herself that she (& Barrie)  did it all because they were just that good and when they were at Topanga it always was getting hot (Topanga is hot tonight/I'm taking off my bathing suit). But then her mind comes back to reality...she faces the greatest loss...she is burned out and misses doing nothing the most of all and L.A/California was in flames, Kanye West isn't the Kanye West Lana used to know (e.g he is pro-Trump now ).

     

    Now I hear Topanga as well :O 

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  10. Posted

    I think it was just because she played it in her car and because of the phone quality tbh. I agree the bass sounded louder in the snippets but I don’t think it really was louder in reality

     

    Same, I think it was due to the distortion of playing it in her car and the microphone in her iPhone distorting it again.... 

    Oh and something to add, I love that we got this album almost with everything she promised. There were no snippets or name drops of songs that didn't end up on it, or her talking about her fave songs on the album only to not have them on the album. I guess the only thing was the production of How to disappear changing, but that quickly grew on me anyway (though I'd love to hear a studio piano version). 

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  11. Posted

    NFR! Album Timeline (from what we can infer based on what Lana and Jack have said and conclusions made on LB!) Just thought it would be nice to compile all the info here :)

     

     

    Early 2016 / 2017 re-work

    The Next Best American Record 

    - originally written and recorded for Lust for Life in 2016

    - NFR version likely rewritten/rerecorded in 2017 with "Topanga lyrics" (in an interview with Zane Lowe on July 12, 2017, Lana stated that TNBAR was "all about Topanga")

     

    February - March 2017

    California

    - written/produced with Zach Dawes while Lana had her side-band from December 2016 to March 2017

    - additional production with Jack in 2018/2019

     

    Late 2017

    Bartender 

    - written/produced with Rick Nowels prior to Jack's involvement 

    - mentioned by Lana to Pitchfork at the Grammys on January 28, 2018 - regarded as "a weird track...[that] doesn't belong to an album yet"

     

    Happiness is a Butterfly

    - Rick is credited as a writer, so we can conclude that HiaB was in its early stages while Lana was primarily working with Rick

     

     

    January 2018

    Love Song

    - written the morning after the Clive Davis Party/the morning of the Grammys (January 28, 2018) with Jack in approx. an hour

    - first song formally written for the album with Jack

     

    Hope is a Dangerous Thing For a Woman Like Me to Have - But I Have it 

    - journaled by Lana slowly over three years 

    - same session as "Love Song" (January 28, 2018)

    - recorded a cappella / subsequently accompanied by Jack on piano 

     

     

    February - March 2018

    Norman Fucking Rockwell

    - confirmed as the third song written in an Instagram Live in the studio on September 4, 2019

    - originally titled "Bird World"

    - regarded as "the cliffnotes of the album" by Jack in an Instagram Live in the studio on September 4, 2019

     

    Mariners Apartment Complex 

    - confirmed as written at the same time/shortly after the title track in an Instagram Live in the studio on September 4, 2019

    - referred to by Lana as what she hoped would be "at the heart of the record" in an Instagram Live on September 3, 2019

     

    Venice Bitch

    - confirmed as written at the same time/shortly after the title track and "Mariners Apartment Complex" in an Instagram Live in the studio on September 4, 2019

    - title was used as a caption in an Instagram post of Lana's mural on a building in Venice, California on February 22, 2018

     

    Happiness is a Butterfly

    - first snippet posted by Lana on March 29, 2018

    - marks Jack's involvement with the song since Lana and Rick starting it in 2017

     

     

    October 2018

    Cinnamon Girl

    - some lyrics written on October 3/4 2018 after Lana was "fucked up in Boston" (Instagram Live, September 4, 2019) along with "How to Disappear"

     

    How to Disappear

    - some lyrics written on October 3/4 2018 after Lana was "fucked up in Boston" (Instagram Live, September 4, 2019) along with "Cinnamon Girl"

    - references "Joe," a boxer who Lana is presumed to have had a relationship with

    - regarded as "the last song recorded" for NFR! by Lana at the Apple Event in Brooklyn, NY on October 30, 2018

     

    November - December 2018

    The Greatest

    - references Lana's comments on Kanye West's Instagram post from September 30, 2018

    - must have been recorded AFTER "How to Disappear" considering Lana's activity and references, and comments on/in the song.

    - potentially "the last song" at one stage of mastering, as Lana confirmed the album was "finished" and "mastered" in an Instagram Live on December 30, 2018.

     

    March - April 2019

    Doin' Time

    - recorded for the Sublime doc. produced by Interscope

    - in an interview with Vogue Korea in May 2019, Lana stated that NFR! has 13 tracks, which would make sense if Doin' Time were the last song tacked onto the record at the time

    - in an interview with 104.3 MYfm on August 28, 2019, Lana revealed that she wanted to include Doin' Time on the tracklist next to "Venice Bitch" a few days after finishing the track; this makes sense as "Fuck It, I Love You," which appears next to "Venice Bitch" in the tracklist instead, had likely not been recorded yet.

     

    May - June 2019

    Fuck It, I Love You

    - regarded as the "last song" recorded for the album in an interview with Annie Mac on August 22, 2019

    - the version that appears on physical copies of the record was likely finished and mastered in May 2019, as Lana stated in an interview with KROQ on August 29, 2019, that she has to have finished a record 90 days before the release date so the vinyl can be pressed in time

    - the version that appears in the music video was likely finished in June 2019, as Lana stated in an interview with KROQ on August 29, 2019, that she "was definitely done [the record] in June, just putting some final touches on it" - the final touches likely being the added "surf drums." 

     

    OMG I LOVE THIS! 

     

    Also to add

     

    - September 2018 - Lana says the album is finished with 11 Tracks.

     

    - January/Febuary 2018 - Lana later says she had 3 songs when she started working with Jack. ( I take Hope NOT to be one of these songs, as it was lyrics/ journaling before she turned it into a song with Jack) 

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  12. Posted

    I can imagine that she wanted to put TNBAR, Yosemite and Roses bloom for you on an album- She said at Amoeba LA in Summer 2017 that she will put out those two songs (i know she said as a standalone but TNBAR made into the album and TNBAR and Yosemite are sister tracks-the ying to the yang and she said that loves those tracks ). In December 2017 she posted again a video in which you could hear Roses bloom for you. She also had a writers' block in fall 2017. During the making of NFR! she decided to put Yosemite & Roses bloom not on the album because it wouldn't really fit or for whatever reason. Maybe she was thinking that California would fit into the album and decided to put it on NFR!.  I think she felt so comfortable with Jack that she showed him  Hope as PARADIXO said... but I think she wasn't planning to put it on an album before she meets Jack and felt so comfortable with him. Maybe she had parts of HIAB and decided to put in on NFR! as well and finished that song with Jack. But it is just speculation

    And don't judge me...I have too much time to think about those things because of the quarantine

     

    I still have a theory that Yosemite was reworked into Mariner’s apartment complex.... though I’m probably wrong!! 

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  15. Posted

    The third addition could be How to disappear and not The Greatest. The Instagram snippet she posted at the beginning of October 2018 of HTD (could be end of September as well ) sounded like a piano demo of the song. Lana did a Livestream at the end of October( if I remember correctly) in which there were right in the middle of making the beats of HTD.  So I guess they finished it in November and did FILLY after it. In the Livestream at the end of December, Lana said the album was finished. So I guess HTD, FILLY  and Doin Time. 

    But in the end, it's only speculation and only Lana knows it :creepna:

     

    Interesting - I hadn't thought of that. I do remember from the live stream that Cinnamon Girl and How to Disappear were written close together after something about a New York trip? But yeah you could be right as she said the album was finished with 9 tracks in September 2018, and then the Apple event was October, and yeah that live stream was beats for HTD. 

    iirc in late 2018, Lana said there was a song she would be putting out the following January. It was referred to as a stand-alone because it was “too serious for the record”. Then she drops Hope, which is a serious, energy and mood killing ballad. That seemed to be thrown onto the record last minute along with the other NFR era material

     

    But Hope is the song she said is both the start and finish of NFR - Lana said that even though it was only second song recorded she felt that the record was complete with it.... 

    Why Hope and not FILLY?

     

    I think FILLY and Doin' Time are the only two songs I could leave off the record.. Personally I might also leave Bartender off, but I recognise that its really important to the album. 

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  17. Posted

    I see it from a similar perspective... Bartender is somehow a beautiful way to remember why the narrative of the album was optimist on the first songs of it, an emotional reset and a reminder that the world yet holds tons of mysteries and wonders to admire and be intrigued about. The last three songs (being LFA in my tracklist the last one) sound for me as lullabies, beautiful and sincere songs that try to comfort the listener -and Lana herself- after what's been an intense experience, yet keeping beating the self consciousness that's maybe the vital constant on the album. 

     

    It's truly amazing how just removing three songs -the three ones that weren't intended to be on it since the beggining (as Lana stated on the early pre-release instances that the album contained 11 songs)-, and adding LFA as a bonus track, has changed inmensely the way I can approach to the personal statement and the whole aesthetic Lana was going for with NFR. I can say now, after many, many listens, that I absolutely love and feel on a deep level what she has done with this project, and that it for sure marks an inflection point on what she is as an artist. 

     

    I'm fairly sure either both or one of California and TNBAR were part of the original track-list - 

     

    Lana said in interviews that she already had three songs for the album when she started working with Jack. 

     

    This would be three of: 

     

    - Bartender (she first mentioned in Jan 2018)

    - Maybe Happiness is a Butterfly (she first mentioned in April 2018 - unsure if this was from working with Rick earlier or at the same time as Jack) 

    - California (recorded in 2017) 

    - TNBAR (Obviously written back in 2016, but who knows when the lyrics were re-written) 

     

    Doin' Time was 100 percent on of the additions to the album, and the second was Fuck it I Love You as she said it was the last song recorded for the album.

     

    For the third addition,  I'd be inclined to say The Greatest, given its reference to the California wildfires which were in Mid 2018. Love Song is also a possibility. 

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  18. Posted

    Not that I necessarily dislike those songs (even if California and TNBAR are quite boring and uninspired for me), they just don't go well with the album's sonority. It felt so cohesive and flowed so, so naturally and sensefully without them.

     

    The transition from FIILY to Love Song, p.example, was absolutely smooth and beautiful without DT in between.

     

    I respect your opinions but for me California is one of the most important tracks on the album :D :D 

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  20. Posted

    I also feel really angry about myself BC I was on the hate train way back and now I’m sitting here enjoying, no loving her music and admiring Taylor as a human being.

     

     

    Same! 

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  22. Posted

    I really enjoyed Miss Americana. It made me reflect and think how guilty I've been of criticising Taylor in the way the media does (ie for lack of political involvement, tearing through relationships etc) - seeing all the pressure that is put on her and how much she put on herself was a big revelation. 

     

    I've enjoyed various Taylor music over the years but I have a new found appreciation for her. 

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  25. Posted

    Lana looked stunning, I loved it. Loved her hair and her dress. She was very elegant. 

     

     

    She looks terrible. Alright hair and make up, but that dress is basic. Lana's style died in 2016 and you guys know it.

     

     

    Yeah yeah we get it, you hate everything Lana does these days. 


    I mean ... award shows are usually rigged and I would have loved it if Lana won because I love NFR but ...

    Where were you guys in 2019? The whole f*cking year was a Billie Eyelash-Hype so her getting the award is really anything but "rigged"

     

     

    Because some of us wish that the award wasn’t based on the hype, and truly believed that NFR was the superior album. Not that I believe it was rigged. 

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