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I think religion is a really personal topic that means a lot of different things to different people. I am personally not religious, but my husband is and his family has always attended a church that does not accept gay marriage. Of course it bothers me but I also know he gets a lot of comfort from other things in the religion and rejects the things he doesn't agree with. We don't know what Lana gets from attending church services, and we don't know what her relationship is with religion. Maybe she goes to those churches because they're frequented by celebrities so she knows she can attend and be left alone. Who knows. All I do know is that there's nothing about her that seems homophobic to me. She has a massive gay following and has always seemed supportive in my opinion. I mean, she's in a lesbian relationship in the Summertime Sadness video after all. Regardless, Looking For America is gorgeous and thoughtful.

WOW these 2 new songs are fucking flawless and they're not even a part of the album. Oh how I wish she could quickly add them to the end and have them pressed onto the vinyls that we've already ordered lol.

Truth. She said it would be out top of the year, instead it's coming out a few months later. And now she's giving us a gorgeous album trailer, 2 awesome cover songs, a beautiful spontaneous song posted on insta, a feature on Charlie's Angels soundtrack, high budget music videos, etc. People are really entitled if they think she owes them an apology, and should probably spend a little bit more time offline and connecting with things that really matter.

Well you definitely seem to be in the minority here, so just because you don't feel the same way doesn't mean this album won't reach Ultraviolence heights for a lot of people. Let's wait until we hear it all to judge in either direction, but in general there seems to be a lot of positive hype for what we've heard. I strongly disagree with this, and anyone saying that it sounds like a bunch of random sentences thrown together is definitely missing the point and magic of the song. It's a hazy trip down memory lane and evokes a feel unlike anything I've heard before. It's Lana's best song in my opinion, and one of the best songs released by anyone in a long time. Saying it's bad writing just because the lyrics don't seem coherent to you is just wrong.

Finally caved and listening to the snippets. Only listening once, I deleted them, but everything sounds amazing. Except Next Best American Record, what on earth on those new lyrics? Hoping they make more sense in context of the full song, and we haven't fully lost the "you did it all for fame" part. Anyways, super excited, and I will listen to Looking For America on repeat until the album drops because it's painfully beautiful and I can't stop.

I desperately want to listen to the snippets but also desperately want to wait. Decisions.

Imagine Hope extends into a psychedelic trip.

So do we think the lime green vinyl really comes with the album cover six times like the website shows?

If she didn't rework Best American Record at all, then I suspect revenge. Which, tbh, fair enough.

I feel like the over-the-top kitschiness is deliberate, especially now with the neon green vinyl. The fact that the album ends with a song as devastating as Hope, and the artwork/visuals are so over the top makes me even more intrigued tbh.

When I first saw the cover I few hours ago I was super unsure about it, but the more I look and it and think about it, the more I like it. Now I think I love it. It doesn't seem like it matches the snippets, but I also kind of think that may be deliberate and to be fair we haven't actually heard as many songs as we're pretending we have. Think back to the snippet she posted of Venice Bitch before releasing the full track. It sounded nothing like what we actually got. I have a feeling this album has lot more going on than we think it does. Love the kitchy American vibes of the cover, it fits really well with the title Normal Fucking Rockwell. It's almost like this one big joke, which is exactly what the title sounds like, but we've got California burning in the background with the painted sky which gives the campy image a slightly more serious undertone. Not crazy about the text but I don't hate it, and think it might not be on the actual vinyls. I really hope The Next Best American Record is reworked. I love the version we have but it does sound like a demo and doesn't sound instrumentally connected to what we have so far. Doin' Time is amazing so I can't really complain about having it on vinyl, even if at first glance it seems like it doesn't fit in. We haven't heard the album so maybe she found a way to place it cohesively. I get why the label would want it, but she could've tacked it on the end as a bonus track, so the fact that she's playing it early makes me think it's for a reason. Also very surprised to see that Hope closes the album. Will be interesting to see how it fits with the rest of the album, I definitely wasn't expecting it to be the final song.

So true.

Maybe like wood or sand. Something natural.

Huh? I'm calling you immature for criticizing everyone else for liking something and suggesting they must be pretending to so they can seem edgy. Anyways, bye. I'm done arguing with children on the internet.

Lol. You literally said that people who like Hope are pretending to, and telling them they're not edge. Sorry if the song is too mature for you, but it's a beautiful song. And then you go on to say Venice Bitch is cute but drags and criticize it as though your opinion is the only one that matters, despite VB probably being her most critically acclaimed song to date. Of course you have the right to express your opinion, but the way you do so is clearly looking for a reaction from other people, hence my "desperate for attention" comment.

GroupieLove is clearly in the age range of 12-15. Desperate for attention, and truly bad taste.

I really do feel like this album is going to be worth the wait and her best yet. I also feel like she might know exactly what she's doing with this release plan, and the year wait may be on purpose in the end, but I also might just be drunk. Venice Bitch really is the perfect song to close the summer and it really is about nostalgia and the passing of time, so maybe she wanted us to sit with it for a year before dropping the album. Either way, I am super ready for it and I don't know why everyone is so concerned about a date at this point. It's coming super soon.

I really hope Lana doesn't read this thread lol.

Retreads like 'Freak'?

Now that's just bad taste.

I would definitely consider Lana a megastar.

Agreeeeed.

Don't be cruel.

Wow just listened to the snippet, it is extremely beautiful. I wanna listen on repeat but I'm going to stop myself and try not to listen again. Please let this mean the album is coming.

Obviously it's possible that Doin' Time means nothing for NFR, but it would be pretty damn smart of her to drop a track like this after the massive delays before finally announcing the release of NFR soon. It's sooooo good, and the perfect summer bop. Even better than the original I think.