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ehh. i think most of us liked the main singles. it's just that people who didn't like them are loud and annoying. the only song that genuinely seems controversial is Coachella.

why does she do all that if she doesn't want us to see it?

For Lana remixes, they were amazing. I'll give you that. They at least attempted to put her on beat, which is so much more than most remixes - including Cedric Gervais remixes - have done.

Most of the remixes of her music are complete garbage.

A G-Eazy collab would ruin Lana. Or at least be an extremely low point in her career. He's a talentless hack.

Serious question: is it really getting to be as bad as people are making it sound? (I know Ben is getting it pretty hard, but are the others?)

I just hope one of the collabs isn't with G-Eazy. Collaborating with that hack on one of her albums, except maybe letting him write, is the only thing that would make me unstan.

Am I the only one who would want a SZA, Doja Cat, or kiiara collab?

I don't want an Ultraviolence rehash per se. I found a way to describe it now: I want her to work with other producers who can push her and influence her sound. Like, Dan Auerbach made Ultraviolence a classic. I want her to work with other producers who can push that level of music out of her. Like, it would be cool if she worked with the guys from Tame Impala, or Stuart Price, or Jake Shears. I want a producer who will push her and give input, etc. I feel like some of the people she usually works with don't push her the way she could be.

I lowkey think we kinda deserve the snark Ben is giving us now. There's really no reason to bug him on his personal instagram OR LEAK HIS ARTISTS' MUSIC on it... And if Lana gives us a finger, we deserve that too. x_x Though I don't even think it was aimed at us.

Ultraviolence was authentic. I want an Ultraviolence-style album. Not in tone but like...in complexity(?). Complexity isn't the right word, though. Or an album with the sound of Music To Watch Boys To.

I don't know about Lana specifically...but music does tend to sound better when the artist does what they want to do.

The meltdown isn't as bad as I thought it would be, tbh.

We found the dates on our own, but UMG didn't leak them because of us. And every other date we'd gotten from them and the other sources (like the radio impact dates), were correct. I'm not saying she needs to take it into consideration, just that she expects it. She created the fandom she has and I feel like she probably knows that.

What if Lana went back to 5 Points?

I mean, clearly we shouldn't be harassing Ben and we did. I said that in the comment you quoted, so I don't know why you're saying I'm pretending we did nothing. We acted like idiots, a lil bit. The record store thing isn't really as serious as you're making it out to be because that happens with popular releases all the time. Dedicated record store people like it, y'know, because they like music and they like fandom. I don't think the magazine stuff was a mistake. Remember that UMG properties thought that Lust For Life was coming May 26th. The tone of the articles make it obvious that they were written before the album was pushed back. Ben doesn't really HAVE to read this forum. Even before we started acting like fools he didn't like us, so...that's his own problem. My point about the money was that you're making recording an album, that we will pay for in multiple formats, sound like it's a divine act of altruism. It's not. Her intentions may be pure, but they're not wholly selfless. And yeah, she's a good to us in other ways, I agree. But I have a feeling she expects how we act because... you don't make music that's obviously filled with sadness and disorder and expect your fans (the people who connect with that music) to be completely in good mental health (I say this as a person who isn't, so no judgment). I don't think anyone snapping right now doesn't like Lana, clearly they love her. It's not for lack of love on their parts.

Don't leave! You're so cool!

How would they know about the record stores? It's not like record stores are hitting up Lana saying "YO THESE GAYS ARE BEING WEIRD!" The only thing I think was kinda fucked up was harassing Ben. Though...he's still a dickhead. And couldn't promote a rock. Maybe she was planning something big for the date announcement but...Paris Match kinda confirmed she wasn't by ingloriously saying the date. But it was really unnecessary for her to continue to say "soon" and to cut out the album date from the interview when it's not like there was any good reason for that besides JUST fucking with us. Her team treated us in a petty way and they got what they deserved. It's not like Lana and them DON'T use us to print off money, God knows we're the only people who actually promote her. And do you truly believe she did anything for us? She GETS PAID to do this. WE PAY HER for this. SHE TAKES OUR MONEY for this. She's not doing anything for us out of the kindness of her heart, lmao. She's not an indie singer. She's a worldwide selling artist. She doesn't care about us.

I used to want the album to leak, then I changed my mind. And just for this sarcastic bullshit, I hope the album leaks.

wait, Yosemite leaked?

I *hoped* we'd get a tracklist or something. But...I doubt we'll get even that.

I think the intention of Coachella was to give us something to hold us over.

Here's a gif of Elle returning to this thread:

Relax. Goddamn.