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No leaks, huh? Well, Merry Christmas and Winter Holiday to one and all here, and to Elle especially, and Lana too.
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Asteroid City was my favorite. I found Barbie overlong and stretched thin.
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Norman Fucking Rockwell - Post-Release Discussion Thread + Poll
Vertimus replied to Elle's topic in Post-Release Threads
I'm in between. I don't rate it very highly overall, especially due to the fucked-up version of BAR and HIAB, but love The Greatest, Venice Bitch, and Mariner's Apartment Complex. I like Cinnamon Girl but not the foggy production. Hope is obviously a very powerful and personal song, it's just not what I, personally, look for from Lana. -
YouTube recommendations / What you have been watching lately
Vertimus replied to Beautiful Loser's topic in YouTube
Are you in the United States? Tubi is a free streaming service that has thousands of programs of all kinds to watch for free; you have to watch brief commercials a few times per film or television program. It's also available in Canada, though what's available in Canada is somewhat different from the US content. -
I love the Chieftains' The Bells of Dublin except for the tracks by Jackson Brown and Rickie Lee Jones, which I cut from my iTunes account. If you're into old-fashioned twee, Kate Bush's December Will Be Magic Again is interesting.
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I'm only a mild fan of OB, but I'm glad the world is finally waking up to Lana's work and giving her the props she deserves.
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As I see it, there's no use doing a cover of a genuine, certified classic, especially of an American radio classic, if you don't feel it and don't think you can bring something genuine and fresh to it. That's the whole problem with covers. Linda Ronstadt was the classic covers artist of the 70s and she brought it almost all the time, even into the 80s with her immaculate covers of The Moon's A Harsh Mistress and Anyone Who Had a Heart. Even the old 70s semi-schlock classic Wildfire by Michael Murphy, for example. If you're going to cover a song like that, you'd better be ready to bring it, to bring the magical emotion that makes the entire song, because comparisons are going to be immediate. The same is true of movies remakes, with recent failures-at-the-box-office like Ben-Hur and Westside Story. Simon & Garfunkel are top-drawer Americana, foolhearty to attempt, as I see it. I'd like to see Lana cover Lilac Wine, but not if she doesn't relate to it or can't feel it. I find about half her covers flat, lackluster. Even Season of the Witch lacked the punch of the original for me, and there's so much brooding spookiness in that song. I don't think she understood the song. I didn't see much effort put into it, anymore than has gone into CRTMH. The sad thing about her CRTMH is that, with all the touring, Lana no doubt knows that feeling very very well—she as much said so in the new interview. As always, I'm happy for those who enjoy it and hear something different than I do. Thanks.
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I love ‘Arcadia.’ Like so much of BB, it’s underrated. I’d take it any day over 9/10ths of OB.
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Me neither. I still find it interesting that out of all her albums, OB brings the Grammy nod, though of course the Grammy nod could be somewhat cumulative.
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It sounds rushed, stripped down, flat, basic. As others have said, where is the instrumentation that made the original seem and feel sincere and of its time and place? She's singing the lyrics a la the classic John Denver version, but she's not singing it as if she means it or has experienced what she's saying. Where's the sense of loss, the passion, the relief of finally getting back to the place that she feels she belongs? Compare it to Buddy's Rendezvous, for example. Funny how on OB she says, "the WAYYYY JOHN DENVER SINGSSS" and she's doing the opposite here, no passion. It seems to me that this would drive away potential fans rather than create new ones. I hope we get the Americana | Classics album and soon, but I hope the rest is a little more fully realized and heartfelt than this.
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I'd love a good studio version of The Good Life. Being older than Lana, I when I think of American classics, I tend to think of music from the 1930s-1950s with jazz/blues overtones, like Skylark, My Funny Valentine, Last Night When We Were Young, and Lover Man, and Unchained Melody does come from the late 50s. I can't see Chelsea Hotel No. 2 fitting in with CRTMH and UM, but it depends what the album is called and what its focus is, especially as it was written by Leonard Cohen, a Canadian, making it not literally Americana. Though some might consider it a standard, but Cohen has so many songs that could be considered standards in the broad sense. I don't consider CHN2 a standard. It would be wonderful to have a double album of covers, maybe each disc having a different focus, one Americana and the other covers of all kinds. Imagine Lana doing Lilac Wine. That would be awesome. Or The Warmth of the Sun. In My Room, like Caroline No, is certainly a post-50s standard.
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Lana performing live at NBC Christmas at Graceland - November 29th, 2023
Vertimus replied to DNC's topic in 2023 Performances
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With Unchained Melody last night, another certified American classic, and now Country Roads, it certainly seems feasible that the covers album, with a country or Americana twist, is finally coming, as well as the recent magazine cover and interview.
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Blue Banisters - Post-Release Discussion Thread + Poll
Vertimus replied to Elle's topic in Post-Release Threads
I also prefer the other version of Thunder, what I call the 50s-style version, but I've just added it to the album in iTunes. -
Harper's Bazaar - December/January 2024 Art Issue [Print]
Vertimus replied to ultrabanisters's topic in New Interviews
I agree. The interview was very weak even though we did learn a few things. I wouldn't even call it an interview. The fraud charge will probably live with her forever, as lazy journalists love to pick up an old charge or accusation, especially from the beginning of an artist's career, and repeat it. Poor Marianne Faithfull, now aged, has had to deal with the "voice of an angel with big tits" line that still gets repeated, even on the liner notes of her albums, or the charge that at the Rolling Stones Redlands bust in the second half of the 60s, she was found--get this--"naked, wrapped in a fur rug with a candy bar sticking out of her anus," which one of the Stones, presumably Mick, her boyfriend, was munching on when the police broke in. And we all know the urban legend about Rod Stewart, or Richard Gere and the gerbil. Very sad. Lana deserves better, but she's so nice, which journalists take as passive, that they keep repeating crap about her. Agreed. -
Harper's Bazaar - December/January 2024 Art Issue [Print]
Vertimus replied to ultrabanisters's topic in New Interviews
We listen to Lana, we see her, we get her 100% without any effort. It's almost instantaneous. Her critics look at her, they listen to her, they can't grasp her in the least, and they embarrass themselves attempting to define what they do see. Look at narcissistic, fascist Anne Powers, complaining that Lana didn't carry herself the way Anne Powers believes she should as a female artist in the 21st century, didn't have the right political opinions, didn't have the correct vision and correct attitudes, as if Lana was Anne Powers, and not a completely different individual in her own right. Lana seems to have an unusually high level of people, especially in the critic class, that don't get her, but everyone who does get her loves her passionately. And the fact that Lana has a long string of dedicated admirers, some of whom are musical and creative legends—David Lynch, Joan Baez, Bruce Springsteen, Father John Misty, Courtney Love, the Weeknd, John Waters, Stevie Nicks—and they see and hear her, as we do, has to rankle. Obviously this has been a huge year for Lana; she won the war even if she lost a few battles.- 347 replies
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