necessary sacrifice

I mean she DID want a quiet release and it would be pretty darn quiet if it came out the same day as Taylor’s album. But it is unlikely her label would be ok with that. (Also wouldn’t it be funny if all the Lana hints Taylor’s dropped was just to promote Lana’s album for her so there wouldn’t be any negative energy between them if they do release the same day? That would be cute.)

I almost wonder if the timing has something to do with the Grammy cut off. Honeymoon probably woulda gotten a nomination if it wasn’t so under the radar and close to the cut off date. But this one critics have been anticipating for almost a year. What if her label/managers/herself wants to prove she can get a Grammy nomination on a quiet release right before the cut off date? Idk we don’t even know if it’s really coming in august anyway so I’m probably talking outta my ass.

I like this. The singles were dropped end of summer and now the album will be too. It’s perfectly fitting. Can’t wait!

Can someone attending please ask about the poetry book too? You can ask about the album at the same time. I’m not asking anyone to abandon their album inquiries. Some of us just also want book news. Please.

Why would someone ask about Yosemite that is probably never coming and already reworked into a dozen different songs by now but not about the poetry book that’s actually coming? Do you guys like wasting your time or are you addicted to disappointment?

If every song was a beautiful psychedelic epic like VB, it wouldn’t feel as special though. I’d rather it be the shining star it is and not be dulled out. But who knows? Maybe one of her snippets turns into an even bigger epic. She always does the unexpected. I still think In Your Car could turn out long and psychedelic (maybe I’m delusional on that one tho)

Hey can someone seriously also ask about the poetry book if you get a chance? A lot of us want the book just as bad as the album. It really doesn’t have to be one or the other. Please.

Tbh based on when she had this idea, I felt like Stevie Nicks gave her the idea so I hope she does eventually do it and similarly to how Stevie did where she re-records a bunch of unreleased fan favourites as a sonically cohesive collection instead of just a collection of the demos as is since we have those (and I’d especially like a collection of old unseen photographs with it like the Stevie one).

This isn’t about what you think she owes you. This is about what she’s more likely to answer. I think she’d be pleasantly surprised to get a question about the book in a sea of album demands. Why waste your question just to prove you’re more stubborn than she is? Do you want answers or not?

Someone ask about the poetry book instead. She might be more enthusiastic about answering that question since she’s been getting hounded about NFR nonstop. If the book is supposed to come first, it might still give us an estimated timeframe to work with.

If the collab really drops in October/November and NFR doesn’t come first, my January 2020 theory is back on.

This is the only album name change I’ll accept and only if she bundles the album with loaves of bread she baked with her own two hands

Maybe that’s the compromise. Maybe her label will let her have a quiet release without big videos or mainstream singles if she does side projects that appeal to the gp so they still get something out of it. Or it could even be her idea so that people are busy focusing on the pop songs while she quietly slips her album out.

This is exactly why I don’t want this to happen. I’d prefer them do like maybe a one-off performance together of a cover or something that has less expectations. Something just in the moment. At least with a verse or something on a pop song, I have no expectations. Just another song to dance to for a week.

Honestly I can’t stop thinking about this. I already was putting together clues trying to prove to myself Taylor and Lana were collabing, then this. And Taylor loves Easter eggs.... but I just really want that collab to happen so maybe I’m seeing hints where there are none. But then I wanted Lana/Stevie more than anything and that happened so maybe I can make these things happen with my mind (just kidding but I like to pretend I made that happen)

Taylor never buys songs from other people so I wouldn’t worry about that. I’d be more concerned that Lana’s two country songs will never be performed or recorded or acknowledged again. That’s more likely than her selling them to Taylor. I could see her selling them to someone else, maybe an alt-country singer since they’re like traditional country. And I’d see that as actually more likely than her recording them herself. But Taylor would more likely wanna co-write something with Lana than use something someone else wrote completely.

Idk I think these side songs like Doin Time or now the pop collab might be kind of a compromise. Like maybe Lana doesn’t wanna make mainstream albums or mess with the cohesiveness of her albums by adding a more mainstream song for the public so to compromise with her label maybe non album pop numbers is the answer. Idk what it means for how soon NFR is coming but I do think it means NFR won’t get diluted by her label wanting a chart hit or something. Or maybe she’s just having fun or something. But I’m excited even if I’m not really an Ariana or Miley fan because it’s still better than another hip hop collab.

As much as I’m a slut for vinyl, this is what I’d want if it was a surprise release. I’d have too much anxiety if I woke up and saw it out then had to run to the record store. Even though I’d also complain to my bf about wanting to listen to it on vinyl already lol.

Exactly this. Everything about it. Everyone hated the album title and the album cover and it was even the same time she started heavily shunning fame. It’s the same moment in their careers. This is one of the reasons I’m confident NFR will be that bitch.

That’s actually my favourite Joni Mitchell album. Not surprised other Lana fans would be drawn to that one. Tbh I think NFR is gonna be that kind of masterpiece that deviates from her usual sound/themes and alienates fans but becomes a classic.

Yeah, I’m a huge Joni Mitchell fan.

I was actually wondering if NFR could be about multiple men, sorta like how Carly Simon wrote You’re So Vain about multiple men. They’d all think they’re Norman Fucking Rockwell but that’s the joke of it because of course they all would since they think they’re so great. But idk we’d need more lyrics first.

No actually this is what has always happened in art. Just through most of history they didn’t have kids on the internet fact-checking backstories and looking for information on artists like they’re the FBI. Artists used to get a bit of privacy and were able to remain mysterious. Bob Dylan lies about his entire backstory. Jim Morrison claimed his entire family were dead. David Bowie changed personas like clothes and acted like they were real in the moment which caused him to contradict himself constantly. People knew that that’s what artists did and they deserved a little mystery.

Lots of the artists people call “authentic” just have an “authentic-looking” persona. One being whoever they want to be and writing from their soul and taking artistic liberties to bring this artistic vision to life is a lot more authentic than artists whole shtick is “I’m so real and relatable”. Art isn’t about sharing everything about yourself. You write yourself and play yourself in the way you choose. Art is short for artifice. It doesn’t mean artists are “fake”. It’s art.

Yes, it’s definitely her best 80s album! I’m glad you liked it! I’m kinda surprised you liked Wild Things so much more than Summer Lawns though because I always saw them as like her most similar sonically, like both kinda jazz rock. But yeah her later albums are often called “bad” because they’re so different from her early stuff, but they’re really not bad at all.