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You're new here and I already love you. I bid you welcome to the "NFR! is not even that good" club, sweetie.

Ride is legit one of her best songs as far as production goes and also the vocal performance/recording is straight fire. It's also vastly superior to the cheaply recorded flat/lifeless vocals on NFR as far as I'm concerned.

werk, poetry.

yeah more or less, wishful thinking I know.

THIS and also adoption services.

I wish Lana would spend as much time and energy into producing, mastering, finishing her art and promoting it as she spends time making sure we understand she hates her fucking mom.

Fully agree with this. It wasn't something she'd done overnight, she started leaning on the, sorry for a lack of a better word, but basic side or perhaps beige, somewhere in between 'Honeymoon' and 'Lust for Life'. Now that's just her so called aesthetic. Good for her I guess.

So be it. Lana started to come across as basic and uninformed sometimes in the past two-three years. Especially since she stripped away the so called "Del Rey" persona off her music to get into this wannabe vagabond poet from the Valley narrative she's been pushing lately. I also can't with her promoting all this Hollywood alternative science/crystal-rubbing/Gwyneth Paltrow-goop-y BS lifestyle along with her church-cultgoers/instabaddies/Trustfunds girlies she calls friends and apparently she feels like a mother to them now. It comes across as disingenuous and uninformed. So that's my valid opinion. Also you guys need to stop playing victims, I'm clearly a fan of her music and have been for close to eight years, she puts all of that stuff out there for us to see, and this happens to be a discussion board literally dedicated to her, stop acting like a bunch of saintes nitouches.

I mean you did ended up sounding rude, so maybe you should've said "I sound rude, because". jk. Anyway, I guess I just don't really think that Lana is vapid per se, but I feel like she makes herself look more sophisticated and precocious than what she actually is, not saying she's dumb, because I don't think she is. But sometimes I feel like she puts her foot in her mouth. Also, I do feel like she used to project a certain image of herself, but once she stripped that way and wanted to appear more "genuine" (quote on quote) she came off a bit basic and bland.

That's so true, but it just seems weird for her to go on tangents and write about all the women she loves in her life and basically forgo the one person this whole day is dedicated to, it just seems petty, but I guess I can understand that all of this comes from a place of plain. Also, her tweet is probably what irked me the most, it was like "oh I'm in a cult and it's been eyeopening as far as family dynamics go, thank you God", which is iffy af to me. I really don't know what their actual dynamic is, or what happened between the two of them, but there is clearly resentment on Lana's part. Granted I do have somewhat of a good relationship with my own mother, but I do know that not everyone does, and that toxic moms are definitely a thing, so I'm not disregarding or invalidating her narrative here. So I can understand that today of all day is probably triggering for her, but still. I just feel like she just did the most today to make sure we read between the lines and made it clear that she and her mother do not have a relationship. It was just like: Lana, doth shalt protest too much.

I agree to a certain extent, she was definitely more interesting when she kept some sort of secrecy around who she really was, call it the persona thing, I don't know. But truth be told, once Lana started to be more out there and really expose who she really is, she def came off as basic. If there's anything that I've learned from the past two albums/eras, is that the so called "real" Lana is indeed beige, basic and to a certain extent actually quite ignorant.

ok, werk.

I mean maybe this is a generation where people want to make everything public knowledge, but I don't see how her fans benefit from knowing she's got an estranged relationship with her mom? Knowing she's found love and compassion with other women that are close to her? I'm all for that. Insinuating that she doesn't care for her mother on Mother's Day, not once but three times? That's just petty and immature. I honestly wonder how her father feels about this knowing her follows her closely on social media.

Nah, it's just too much effort and social media posts to insinuate you don't like you own mother, I mean she has every right not to have a good relationship with her, it's her private business. But she also puts it out there that the relationship is not good for her millions of fans to see.

She's really going above and beyond to demonstrate how much she doesn't feel for her mother, let alone see her as a motherly figure. I'm obviously not in her shoes and I don't know what has obviously caused a rift between the both of them, but I feel like it's too much effort being put into showing you don't like someone on a day that's dedicated to her. If you really don't care for her/don't want a relationship with her, this sure doesn't look like it. It looks like a cry for help honestly.

I'm wheezing.

My best guess is that Patty got tired of Lanz's wayward/unpredicable ways and didn't want to put up with her anymore, so Lanz cut her off. Ms. Patty probably called out Lanz to her face several times like only a mother can. So now she only surround herself with people that can put up with that and don't rock the boat. this is purely speculative by the way, don't come for me.

Wow she really keeps digging her mom's grave. Writing a whole essay about the women in her life, but not once mentioning your own mother. That relation is wrecked beyond repair, damn. Regardless, I feel for her in this, she clearly is aching to be a mother but somehow this hasn't happened to her.

I'll tend to say that Lana will opt for the latter, now that we got that lemonsoranges cover art. You think Lana will record a new poem for her spoken word album? Like "i hate patty"? roses are red, violets are blue i hate patty and so should you maybe that's too much of a foregone conclusion on my part.

it's Mother's Day, you can chose to honor your mother and other mothers/motherly figures in your life if you damn well please, but "exposing" your own mother on social media on this day is petty and immature af.

I don't think that's what people find problematic to be honest. Personally I think it's pretty cool that she feels as though she as that strong of a bond with other women that are very close to her. What I find weird and embarrassing is putting your own mother on blast on social media and basically alluding to you not wanting to have a relationship with her/pretending like she doesn't exist. Which would be fine if she didn't make it so public, but I find that to be humiliating for her mother. Also, I don't know the dynamic of their relationship, for all we know Patty has done stuff to Lana that she can't forgive/let go of and vice-versa. But it's still embarrassing, unbecoming, shady, sophomoric and even heartless to do that for your millions of followers on Mother's Day.

So fucking petty and heartless, like using her Twitter as some sort of diary in which she's like "I don't like my mom, I got other friends I can be their mom! Thank you God!". Lanz is familiar with making herself look like a fool.

I just feel like this was her "response" to people questioning why tf she would honor Candace Block on Mother's Day in that weird/cringy insta post after she turned off the comments. Lanz, sometime not saying anything at all is best.

That's fair. I also agree, her whole post felt more like her trying to throw shade at her mother under the guise of "God is good he gave me a new family "

True but people on here are quick to judge Patty as a mother, we don't know what's going on. But we can also acknowledge that with the information we also got, Lana is probably not the easiest person to get along with. She's got her own personal issues that we're aware of.