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Well, JohnnyBlueEyes is lost and gone. It ain't happening.

I hope you're kidding. I mean Lanz is a beautiful woman, but let's not kid ourselves; she doesn't have the most natural looking facial features. Let's call a spade a spade.

I honestly don't understand the fuss about the post the other day, she looked great imho. Y'all hating ass b hating on a shade of blonde smh. But ewww Jackoff.

This legendary classic

inb4 Lana cancels all her South American tour dates.

I literally just noticed you namedropped me, thanks for thinking of me in these dull and dark times, sweetie. That's how dead this thread is (and also LB right now). You can seethe. Also, in the grand scheme of things (and Lana's entire discography) and almost seven months post release: 'Norman Fucking Rockwell!' still is very middle of the road and almost entirely forgettable. It's overrated for sure, I'd call it her worst, but 'Lust for Life' exists. In that case, it's second to last. But if I were to rank all her albums solely based on production and mastering, on 'Norman Fucking Rockwell!' Lana has really hit a new low.

and certainly still expect Jack to deliver lackluster & half baked instrumentation with very minimal/entry level production and mastering skills on every single track.

You bet your ass I would call in sick just to go to any Disney parks. though I'd be smarter than Lanz and try not to get caught ffs

ain't it the truth, uh

It's funny cause it's true

True. But she doesn't seem overly sick here either, granted it's been close to a week since the initial announcement. But there's still something off about her in this little update. Also, she needs to lay off the fillers. She doesn't need that, she's beautiful as is imho.

Maybe, just maybe, 'NFR!' happens to be Lana's least Lana Del Rey-esque album and is simply her most "palatable" and least controversial album compared to her past work. Also, musically speaking it speaks to a broader audience, like you mentioned a lot of other iconic artists and I do think that her work on 'NFR!' resembles a lot of what you've mentioned stylistically speaking. We're far from the trip-hop/baroque pop sound of 'Born To Die', the raw rock-ish/blues-y atmospheric sound of 'Ultraviolence' and the cinematic/classical music meet muddy trap beats of 'Honeymoon'. 'NFR!' is very, for a lack of a better word, "generic" compared to these albums, it certainly is her least avant-garde work thus far (besides maybe 'Venice Bitch' with its long instrumental outro). It's not a surprise to me how well this album was received by the very same critics that weren't so gentle and appreciative of Lana's early work. It's not a bad record by all means, it's just pretty beige for Lana and the production just happen to be very hit or miss with all her fans. I've seen a lot of discussion on here as well as on Reddit and even Instagram, and there were people on both sides (stans and detractors of 'NFR!') that weren't too open to the idea of Lana going back to work with Jack Antonoff. I for one would be thrilled if she would either go back to work with Dan Auerbach (seriously listen to his work on Yola's 'Walk Through Fire' album the production is just superb, even of not for the production this album is really beautiful. His Grammys noms for best producer this year was well earned I think) or just work with a someone she's never worked with before.

This isn't the right thread, but 'The Slow Rush' is a really amazing album. Not my favourite Tame record, nor his strongest if I'm being honest. But after a five year wait, this is a breath of fresh air and I'm really digging the groovy approach on this record.

Sorry, I assumed you were French given you mentioned ordering 'NFR!' from FNAC way back in this thread, my bad. But I stand by what I said. It's a discussion board. I can come here and talk about what I don't like about this album ad nauseam, because last time I checked the guidelines of the board it's not against the rules to talk about the album in any shape or form. If you don't like my comments, move along. In no way should I refrain myself from discussing my likes and dislikes for mere LB users (I am a mere user also just to be clear).

I think it's funny that a literal French person tells someone that they spend too much time disliking something. Like isn't that the absolute most French thing in the world to argue and spend time talking about stuff you don't like? Also, have you noticed how this thread was literally dead before I came back to talk about the album again? Just saying. I don't wanna say "my impact" because that's hella pretentious. But read my mind.

Tame Impala is definitely at the crossroads of rock/psychedelic rock and pop music. 'Let It Happen' is a much stronger song than 'Venice Bitch', I don't really care about the song lengthwise, to me it's a cute track with cute lyrics and a long hazy outro and that's all there is to say on my part. 'Let It Happen' has a much superior structure to me and actually a pretty strong climax and guitar solo. Also, anyone that has seen Tame Impala live and witnessed them opening the show with 'Let It Happen' can attest that this is truly an otherworldly experience (I have). Also, it wasn't bold of Lana to release 'Venice Bitch' as a promotional single she had also released 'Honeymoon' which, while not as long, was still a pretty lengthy track, but it was also at a much slower pace. That was actually bold of her. Much like @ pointed out: the early stages of the 'NFR!' rollout clearly started to distract everyone from the Israel gig situation at the time. Clearly, 'NFR!' was far from ready (if it ever was) from being released at the time.

Tame Impala (also of the most prominent emerging figures on the current music scene) released its first promotional single off 'Currents' called 'Let It Happen' and it spans almost 8 minutes long and that was back in 2015. I venture to say that it's a much more impressive track than 'Venice Bitch'. Just because it's ten minutes long and features an almost six minutes long hazy outro doesn't make it the most impressive song in her catalog. It was an odd choice for a single, it's a great song (though to me without the outro it was a pretty weak one to begin with), but the length of it doesn't automatically make it her most impressive track in my honest opinion. Also, unpopular opinion, but Lana releasing 'Venice Bitch' a year prior to the release of the album was odd, because by the time the album came out I almost felt like both 'Mariners Apartment Complex' and 'VB' felt out of place on 'NFR!'.

That's an interesting little essay you wrote there. I strongly disagree though, we can talk about production in an objective/quantifiable way. Especially when it comes down to technicalities and this is what I've been doing since the album's release. But also, and obviously, my overall "appreciation" of the album from a personal POV. But after watching Jack himself describe what he was going for in terms of production for this record, it's absolutely clear that this is far from a minimalist album. If it gave you this impression: fair enough, but like that was not the intention on this album. On the contrary, it's pretty obvious that he tried to go for this grand elaborate sound. But to me it falls incredibly short. Literally nothing remotely impressive, let alone groundbreaking on 'NFR!'. It's a wannabe folk meet rock-ish album with too many piano ballads, that's all there is. We're far from the days Lana tried to set herself apart with a unique sound, approach and aesthetics. Glad she seems to be at crossroads artistically speaking and doesn't feel like doing the most to "impress" her critics (and she really did nothing truly impressive to give her all that recognition from her most fervent critics). But, she couldn't sound anymore beige and basic if she tried to on here. What a lackluster little "album".

Lana ain't paving the way or breaking any doors with the production on NFR, let's stop right there. It's not remotely groundbreaking, at best the production on here is subpar, at worst... it's NFR.

Or maybe we have fully functioning ears? Either way, this album truly is nothing impressive or even remotely musically groundbreaking. I strongly agree with @@Vertimus comment here about other songs on previous albums being vastly superior than pretty much anything on this lackluster album.

Still, I don't like when people assume that I'm part of a group that does this. As someone that's been relentlessly taunt with that term growing up I must say I think that it's a bit tasteless to suggest that, or use that term to make a point. But that's just my two cents.

I would kindly ask to be removed from the narrative on which you assume that I spend my day calling my friends very offensive slur, thank you.

Don't try to fool me though, I remember very well you implying I was more annoying than another (obviously and objectively) more annoying user than me on this very thread. Glad you've once again changed your mind and think my posts are interesting to read though.

I still venture to say it's her least interesting album on all regards (and yeah I've listened to 'LFL' and was less than impressed, but at this particular point I almost enjoy it more ) and the overall production of this album is far from impressive. All her albums have highs and lows, but somehow on 'NFR' I find it easier to point out the album's downsides than pinpoint what is actually interesting about the album because there isn't much thought to be given on what I find impressive here to be honest.