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I can appreciate Jack's work with other people. But with Lana? I made my case on several occasions.

I don't know if that counts as an unpopular opinion, but I went to think about it yesterday, and I honestly don't even have a favourite song on NFR... like there are a few songs that I overall find tolerable (NFR, Venice Bitch, California and The greatest), but like I don't even feel like listening to either one of them on repeat. For some reason this actually made me pretty sad. On LFL, while I didn't like the album as a whole, I could still listen to songs like Heroin, Cherry and especially Get Free all the time even though the album was a mess to me. While NFR is obviously superior to LFL in many regards, it's just almost completely forgettable to me. Never thought I'd think this way about a Lana album, but here we are.

Jack doesn't possess the willpower to create something as intense, intricate, intoxicating and atmospheric as Ultraviolence, maybe Ultraviolence on melatonin pills? But still.

I beg to differ. She said that on Ultraviolence we would hear the grand return of the Born To Die strings, it was featured in the title track and that was it. Though I will give her credit for saying that UV would feature a lot of psychedelic rock influences and it did. Honeymoon was supposed to sound "jazzy" it was hardly jazzy, some light jazz influences on a few songs and that was it, the rest of the album was this mix between classical/cinematic instrumentation and "muddy" trap beats as she described. Then came LFL, with its alleged "doo wop"/60s pop à la Shangri Las vibe, which was only present on the title track and Get Free. I can't really put my finger on the vibe she tried to go for for the rest of the album, as it's too all over the place. But for the most part it was heavily trap beats influenced. Now with NFR, we were supposed to get some sort of desert rock vibe meet Red Hot Chilly Peppers... it's a folk/wannabe prog rock album with piano ballads... Like I said, I'm eager for Lana to describe the sound of the next record, because I know for fact it won't be accurate.

"muddy trap"

How she described Honeymoon being jazzy, but like besides super subdued and light saxophone in Terrence Loves You & Art Deco that hardly counted as jazz. No disrespect, because Honeymoon is a masterpiece, but the way she describes her album prior to their release always makes me laugh after you hear the actual album. Can't wait for Lana to start running her mouth about White Hot Forever/LP7.

That's too bad, KP actually got that fire in him.

Black Beauty was honestly the only song I cared about that was unreleased and still ended up on an album. I honestly skip TNBAR, I feel like it's just réchauffé for Lana to put a song we already heard on a new record.

An actual L E G E N D. Plus, he produced Lana's best song: Ride. Imagine an entire album with the quality of Ride.

It would've been better with KP in command and you know it.

Exactly. I'm praying they know how to properly record piano and guitar this time around and use bass. Also, record vocals so they don't sound too flat and compressed, or downright cheap. I feel like what was lacking from NFR was just a good balance in the instrumentation, but also quality in recording. Overall, it was pretty painful to listen to for an extended amount of time. I guess my dream of Lana collaborating with Kevin Parker has gone down the toilet, Lana Impala would've actually slayed.

Finally someone speaking facts and acknowledging Jack Antonoff as the second coming over Christ, but also NFR being the era on which Lana outdone herself both musically and visually. Pushed the barriers of music too! (ngl my fingertips and eyes kinda burn writing such bullshit, but oh well)

@@takeitdoen production skills blow Jackoff out of the water, fact.

And it somehow sounds better than the whole NFR recording. Your mind!

This is actually worse than the c*p debate.

If it's anything like NFR, we already know this is bad.

It's alright! But google translation just sucks for writing whole sentences, I've been there too

Noted and corrected.

OMG OMG OMG

You beat me to it. Is she foreshadowing another tedious album with lackluster production?

@@Tristesse kinda tried to come for me for defending @RormanNockwell, but we sorted it out like mature francophones.

Je suis complètement en accord. Je pense tout simplement que dans l'exemple présent ce n'était pas vraiment ça l'intention de KingJay. Je suis tout à fait d'accord avec le fait de dire à un autre personne ici que tu n'es pas en accord avec elle ET pourquoi tu ne l'es pas. Dans la situation présente, ce que je trouve con c'est d'attaquer quelqu'un simplement parce que tu trouve que ce qu'elle dit est ennuyant et répétitif. Je vais être le premier à l'admettre: ce que j'ai écris, et continue d'écrire, dans le post-release thread est somme toute répétitif. Par contre, si ton seul argument pour débattre de mes idées c'est "ah ta gueule on t'as assez entendu!" (ce qui est le cas en ce moment avec KingJay), à ce moment là c'est sûr que la personne a vraiment pas compris c'est quoi un débat. Il a le droit de lui dire que c'est répétitif, mais ça serait bien un de développer un peu l'argument, ça fait bête un peu comme rhétorique. Aussi d'oser dire à quelqu'un ici qu'il est obsédé par Lana... je veux dire, si t'es ici clairement toi aussi t'as une obsession pour elle à un certain niveau. Pour le reste je suis entièrement d'accord avec toi, tout le temps être d'accord c'est ennuyant à mourrir!

En effet... un peu plus et je te dirais de suivre tes propres conseils, mais bon je ne veux pas encore partir en guerre avec toi sur un autre thread. Je trouve juste ça complètement ridicule d'attaquer @@RormanNockwell ici pour avoir des opinions tranchées sur Lana. Aux dernières nouvelles on est encore sur un forum et je pense qu'on doit encourager la discussion et non la taire.

Ah tiens, une autre "police de la pensée" qui essaie lamentablement de faire passer mes paroles pour un sophisme, tout en faisant la défense d'un sophisme lui-même. Veux-tu vraiment qu'on commence à faire un exercice de philosophie sur LanaBoards? On va en avoir pour un moment. L'ironie est à son comble.

Also, @RormanNockwell, don't even try to have a civilized discussion with @KingJay, he literally goes from one thread to the other pretending to be level headed, but also try to shut people up for daring using LanaBoards for its one true purpose (to discuss all things Lana you know), but ultimately failing miserably. He tried to make me stop posting in the infamous post-release thread, we all know that didn't work, like at all. Do yourself a favor KingJay, don't overestimate the influence you got on here, literally none of us have influence on here but mods. Also, don't parade yourself with an holier than thou attitude and act high and mighty when it comes down to so called "negative" opinions from other users and take the role of some sort of thought-police. Literally, no one cares.