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I'm actually not mad about that, it's only really amazing live with the sort of demonic guitar.

Praying everything that is holy that Jackoff didn't have any input in the production or mastering of this project.

No we're just audiophiles that like quality recording and have listened to a shit ton of music (from Lana), but mainly from other artists. The production on NFR! is just that lackluster and not as pristine as some of you may think. It's not the fact that she's working outside her usual circle of musicians/producers, it's just that it happened that NFR! sounds the way it sounds and it's just off to some fans. There's a difference between recording vocals through a sheet of paper for one song, and actually properly recording/mastering vocals and instrumentals for an entire album. I just find that comparatively to albums like Born To Die, Ultraviolence and especially Honeymoon. There is a certain level of attention to detail that is nowhere to be found on NFR!. I think these arguments are pointless, because music appreciation is very subjective. So no one can claim that "x" album/song is objectively better than "x" album/song. You can only really say what you mean based on personal appreciation. I personally do not appreciate the overall production on the album. There are songs I love, others I don't care for. But overall even the songs I actually appreciate on this album I find that there are sonic elements that sound off, annoying or even bad. They have already lost their luster to me since the album's release. I also remember fans on this very thread being like "oh just listen to the album on low, or on vinyl, or streaming, or in your car, etc". Like I shouldn't have to change my music setting to fully appreciate a record, I agree that in some circumstances it might enhance what is already present. But this is certainly not something I had to do with Lana's first three records, or with other albums by my favourite artists, to actually enjoy them to their full potential.

I personally don't like how Lana mumbles the lyrics in most of the song (though this is on her, not Jack). I don't like how when she she goes for the "nobody warns you before the fall", "I guess that I'm burned out after all" and the "I guess I'm signing off after all" the vocal mixing sounds especially flat and compressed during those specific parts, like hearing the song with the volume on high makes it sound like it's sorta sizzling/crackling a little (which is overall pretty off to me). As for the instrumentation, I find that most of the song lacks bass or strong percussions to create a more balanced sound, or create depth sonically. Also, I find that the instrumental "climax" after the "I guess I'm signing off after all" is somewhat lackluster, it sounds like it's a bit all over the place and gives me a "high school band" kinda vibe, the guitar is unnecessarily hazy and all the other instrumental don't mesh well together. Also, don't hate me, but the musical outro in 'The greatest', as a matter of fact all the musical outros on the album (maybe to the exception of 'Venice Bitch') are all forgettable and pretty pointless. Not saying every song needs a bridge, but I guess that when you can't write proper bridges you go for these outro that just don't add much to the song, to fill some type of void creatively speaking. I'm probably being very nitpick-y here, but this is how the song sounds to me, but then again this is how the vast majority of songs on the album sound to me: very subpar instrumentation that sounds flat/dry and overall weak/off mastering. I would've honestly like to see Jack describe how he produced other songs on the record, how he explains why they ended up having such a subpar/anticlimatic sort of production for the record, but there's no way I'm paying 300$ for that web series. Because despite what I just wrote, I actually enjoy 'The greatest' for the most part, but there are songs on the album that sounds downright terrible to me (as far as production goes). I agree with everything that's been written here. Jack just makes me cringe as a producer. He thinks he's all that, but he's not even there. Go back to producing TSwift records and leave other producers to properly record and master Lana records and actually give them depth and interest.

Better than that how about Lana fires J*ck first? And starts on good base for LP7? I don't know if he pays people that well to shove NFR down people's throats on LanaBoards, but it must be good money since he's being very thorough with his job!

Critical acclaim? I mean I might not give two fucks about NFR but it's the only album of hers that actually had critical acclaim in the true sense of the word. The others had mixed to positive reviews at best.

lmfao This video exemplifies how he lacks the ability to produce a Lana album/song. 'The greatest' is lyrically great, besides the "culture is lit" lyrics which are very "hey how do you do fellow kids?" to my ears. But a beautifully produced song with properly recorded, mastered instrumentation and vocals it is not.

Disagree cause the Burnt Norton Interlude is fucking amazing and puts me in such a peaceful mood, but what made it amazing is that she actually used someone else's poetry... hearing Lana talking about macha tea and going to that church poetry form... eh

Which is probably how it's going to be depicted. I mean judging from most of the poems she has shown us thus far. Her poetry is very hit or miss for me. Critical acclaim is such a weird concept. Lana didn't receive any on any of her albums until NFR. But she somehow powered through and released actual amazing albums, that NFR has nothing on them imho. It's also very momentary. We'll see next week. That's if she actually releases something on time for once!

I think it's safe to say that as far as visuals go, Lana's so called homemade videos are just very beige and bland. It's not even like they have redeeming qualities about them besides looking cute. It's not the fact that they are homemade, it's the fact that she acts as if they are worth seeing. She once said that the reason why she didn't release the Honeymoon video was because nothing really happened in it. Yet here we are with these lackluster and boring visuals. I venture to say that the Honeymoon video is actually better than all of this because it had somewhat of a storyline and was actually related to the song, or at least the cinematic, mysterious and tragic atmosphere of the song. The triple video is just very nonsensical as far as lyrics and mood go.

Norman Fucking Rockwell est aisément l'album le plus ennuyant de Lana Del Rey.

That's from 2018, but it was looking pretty puffy.

Imagine thinking Jack can deliver a Lana album period. He needs to get the hell away from Lana. I don't want Beige Fucking Walls! part. two.

Like NFR? *badum tss* (That one was too easy, I just had to )

Oh oui!

D'accord, Tristesse.

Ah c'était pour rire le roman. Pas obligé de te sentir aussi vexé par ce que je dis, j'en fait pas une affaire d'état. Je trouve juste ça vraiment con de se sentir aussi attaqué par mes commentaires sur l'album. J'en ai franchement rien à chier que t'aime pas ce que j'écris sur LanaBoards. Je suis pas là pour me faire des amis, juste là pour exprimer mon opinion, peut importe si les gens me trouvent répétitif ou non. Autrement dit, je m'en calice.

Bold of you to assume that we have shitty taste when you literally take some of your precious time to think that Jack Antonoff is a musical genius, when he's actually (at best) a decent pop producer. Like the amount of praise around NFR is starting to look ridiculous, like it's legit getting the "Album of the century" treatment while sounding the way it sounds... more like the joke of century to me. Spare me your conspiracy theories about the album getting negative feedback within the fandom. It's literally her most beige and simple album sonically, like the level of intricacy that Lana has displayed on her first three records is nowhere to be found. It's not all bad to me, but I just do not find myself enjoying this album listen after listen, doesn't really have that much of replay values as great as you think it is. At this point it almost makes Lust for Life have interesting production and melodies creds. I can listen to Born To Die, Ultraviolence and Honeymoon countless times and notice something new or special at every listen. NFR is not a bad album per se, it's actually pretty good, but it's also very surface level to me. Lana wants to go down that road these days and be more simplistic? That's on her. Doesn't mean that we have to pretend that her albums are not getting more simple, and from analytical and artistic point of you less interesting. At this point it almost makes Lust for Life have interesting production and melodies creds. Like I said on the other thread, I find that her current visuals embody the album's spirit perfectly, it's cute and fun, but it's all over the place, amateur, simple. But like I also said countless times, that's just my opinion.

I'm sorry, it was too tempting. I couldn't resist.

ok, bloomer.

Wow, finally someone that gets it. I'm legit going to frame your post.

So unnoticeable that every time one of us, especially me, post somewhat of a negative comment about literally any aspect of the album there's a sea of comments that basically act like the thought police of the LanaBoards, or police of "good taste" and are like: "we get it you don't like the album, just shut up already". If it's so inoffensive why do you guys act out on it? Legit curious. I'm not here to change opinions, just state my own, if you agree, well you agree, if you don't, you don't. But why do you some of you guys get up in arms about like opinions as repetitive or annoying as you might think they are? I've had people coming left and right for my jugular last week and honestly, it didn't really encourage me to stop being active on here, but the whole time I was thinking that it's a little too much for just being active on a fan forum.

baby, now you do

I find it extremely funny, but kind of unsettling, how all these years we were, in a way, fine that Lana didn't really get the type of acclaim she's been receiving for NFR. Because we knew that her albums were amazing and the industry selectively kissing some artists' butts was not something Lana needed as an artist. But now some fans act as if that's all that matters for Lana, to receive this sort of validation from the very same industry that has paid her dust and disregarded her for so many years. Like they turn a blind eye on the how the industry is just ridiculous, and act as if they are actually right when they dictate what is great and what is not. But also acting like the thought police of a forum when other fans dare express their so called negative opinions or thoughts and basically want to create some type of 'safe space' specifically for fans that are in love with the album. It's a freaking forum.

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