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The wait has been worth it fam, it’s happening
WE FUCKING WON
SpoilerAnd if it’s not real, whoever made it will have to answer to Satan one day
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I’m about to go to bed and so if I wake up, I pray that all hell has broken loose and that THINGS WILL BE HAPPENING GAH
pray for my sweet dealer dreams
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1 minute ago, xxmissdaytonaxx said:it's gonna be so rough for me. the only time i did this with a lana song was when white dress came out. that was torture.
As long as it’s worth it for you, you do you gurlill be praying for you
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There’s something hilarious about everyone freaking out over her just singing “Arcadia”, I’m with you all it sounds so pretty, but is this what we’ve come to?
How can we make it be Wednesday Rn??
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4 minutes ago, masterpinks said:Ya, I know about it. What I’m asking is- the demo-sounding track on the must-not-be-named website, the track labeled Dealer, with the lyrics
You make my head spin honey
like the record machine sways my body
has it been floating around for awhile? Is it an old song that I missed somehow? I googled the lyrics and couldn’t find anything
idk if that’s her, unless someone purposefully lowered it and edited it, could just be something random but it is a bop -
5 minutes ago, Yayo6408 said:I'm really happy that most of her songs are not political, that she is almost not political. She got always into trouble when it came to political issues on twitter.
Her QFTC seems to be her extent of political/cultural on social platforms, imagine that in song form.. lordie may
She seems to hit the right level of political exploration in her songs that it's not so political/controversial that it's exhausting and polarising and inaccessible
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2 minutes ago, be sweet said:I agree - Lana isn't lazy and I'm 100% sure there's an intention
Let's keep faith and if it's awful and terrible and she butchers everything I will apologise to you tenfold ahahaha
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Just now, COCC said:
Some people like to be negative, I don‘t think there is more to itThat makes me sad, I just wanna understand the problem so we can make it better
Music is meant to be enjoyed
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Just now, be sweet said:nope - it honestly deserved it's spot on Chemtrails
So we should give the songs Lana may intend to be on BB a chance to belong on the album, regardless of if we've heard them or not
If it makes sense within' the context of the album and they are produced freshly and coherently with everything else, then what's the problem? (i'm not asking you, it's more a general question)
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1 minute ago, GeminiLanaFan said:I really do like that definition that if a song is tainted with social issues or culture matters that it could be a political song. I never thought of that that way. By that definition, then yes, I guess, she did write at least 5-6 political songs. (Yes I know, I just contradicted my last post lol)
I thought your first post was very interesting, I mean that in of itself makes sense. They are peace-related but then that does make the other post about "making a neutral political statement is a political statement" seem more relevant
This is actually a really interesting topic, I don't think there's any right or wrong answers, it's all up to interpretation depending on our individual perspectives.
I should really give a listen to Finneas' album, I'm interested to hear his take on political songs
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Just now, be sweet said:the production credits are similar to any on LFL - and we do count it as unreleased though unleaked/unheard
So you wouldn't want Yosemite on the album because you're aware of it's existence?
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13 minutes ago, be sweet said:Yosemite is the og version tho...
But it never leaked and we never heard it before it was released
After you heard Yosemite on CoCC did you count it as an unreleased song because you knew of it or as a new song because you'd never heard it before?
It could've originally been a completely different song, but we wouldn't know cause we never heard it
We knew the title but we had no idea what it sounded like
The BlackBeauty demo leaked, Architecture leaked before it became TNBAR, so we knew what they could be
And they still ended up differently.
What's your point?
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19 minutes ago, Contemplating God said:I really hope that whatever unreleased tracks end up making the album, that there is something different about them. Unpopular opinion, but I enjoy when she has a new take on a previously heard song.
Literallllllllllly, from the examples we've heard before: Black Beauty and The Next Best American Record (you can't count Yosemite or LMLYLAW since we never heard the OG versions) they have turned out much different (at least production wise) from the originals, you can't even compare them to the demos. If she releases unreleased tracks (that we've only already heard because of leakers and not Lana's choice) then they will most definitely be different and have a new take. I'm so exhausted by people complaining about unreleased tracks on the album. The fact we call them "unreleased" is justification enough. THEY WEREN'T EVEN MEANT TO BE HEARD BY US. How hard is that for people to understand??
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10 minutes ago, Alison by Slowdive said:high by the beach advocated for cannabis' legalisation
i agree with you that text book comes across much more "biographically" - it is such a complex song lyrically and thematically, i haven't fully digested it, but at the very least, it's not politically neutral, and therefore i would say it is a political song
Definitely agree on the cannabis front, HBTB is my anthem, let's go legalisation in Australia!!
But damn, I never thought of that, you also made me gasp when I read your post. I guess even referencing a political action is a political statement in itself. The fact that she was protesting and makes a statement of "if only you did the same as me" (to her father) is a political action in itself. Oof, I love that
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8 minutes ago, Style said:interesting thread! thx for the tag
i think what defines a political song is when lana has a clear political motive behind it. god bless america, coachella, when the world was at war are all political songs (imo) because the subject matter and what they’re about is quite clear.
change could be considered one of them because it talks about the tensions between nuclear warfare.
the greatest mentions trump and kanye, and climate change and seems more a comment on culture not politics.
looking for america is a response to gun violence and was a charitable song, so i think that is political too.
i don’t consider textbook political as it just has a brief line that relates to politics but also was something lana did with the people it’s about. however it could be considered political as it talks about changing history in textbooks, and potentially creating a better world and legacy (?)
would love to see others opinions
My pleasure! thank you for the inspiration!
I love seeing your opinion, everybody's interpretation is valid because we all have such different perspectives. I hadn't thought of Change as being a political song, I always took it as a very violent (ironically since it's such a soft ballad) personal song, I never thought to think of it as political. I'll have to give it a re-listen with this new perspective. I agree with "The Greatest" it definitely seems like a more cultured exploration, I'm curious to listen back to that now as well!
Even Textbook for me it always seemed like she was talking about how her "damaged" relationship with her parents were almost textbook because of how "cliche" her "daddy issues" were, but I'm curious to hear it in a different light.
I'm so happy I made this thread now ahaha
11 minutes ago, Super Movie said:I've always seen Lana's political songs as WTWWAW, GBA, Coachella, Change, The Greatest and Looking For America. And it's not a song, but Paradise Is Very Fragile on Violet is quite political as well
It's funny I never thought of Change or the Greatest as political songs, I'm excited to re-listen to them with a different perspective.
I NEVER EVEN THOUGHT TO REFERENCE HER VIOLET POEMS. I read that book in one sitting last year, now that I have the vinyl I need to re-listen to it and try to really digest it, I honestly gasped when you mentioned Violet ahaha
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Just now, daddyauerbach said:that was a lil jokey joke but im glad im creating new avenues for discussion
I made a thread and I'm gonna edit it and dedicate it to you
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We randomly got onto the subject of political Lana songs over in the BB pre-release thread and I decided to actually make this thread to get to the bottom of things.
For a quick reference I guess Looking for America, When the World Was at War We Kept Dancing, God Bless America - All the Beautiful Women In It... would be political songs (but why?)
But surely there are others. For you, what constitutes a political song? What would a political Lana song be? Is Coachella - Woodstock in My Mind political? It references the nuclear missile crisis with North Korea but is also more about taking the time to appreciate what you have. But would you say it's still political? Text Book (from the upcoming album Blue Banisters) references the BLM protests but the song seems to be more biographical as opposed to solely political, but what do you think?
I'm honestly curious now that we've been talking about
SpoilerIs GoGo Dancer about the inequality of sex workers in the modern day?? I'm joking, I'm just trying to keep it fun okay guys
This is dedicated to @daddyauerbach, @Style and @COCC for inspiring me
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Just now, daddyauerbach said:textbook
Hmmm, i guess it is kind of political with the BLM part but I would say it's more autobiographical, idk now it makes me think what constitutes a political song? Referencing current political/social events or actually exploring the concepts on a greater scale? Like LookingForAmerica is political cause it's about America and gun violence whereas TB seems more biographical with a reference to a political/cultural movement that was happening at the time..?
Now I feel more inclined to make a political thread to figure this out
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10 minutes ago, be sweet said:to tide us over till we get the tracklist - anyone wanna claim a track number?
I'm claiming track 7 and 11
me praying there's a bonus track cause I'll claim that one, bonus tracks are always the best, Flipside will forever be the best song she's ever made
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3 minutes ago, be sweet said:imo the political songs on LFL were done well for a first attempt - When The World Was At The War is really great criticism
I think we need to make a thread about lana's political songs because I have totally forgotten most of them
And i agree with you about WTWWAW, that was a strong one
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2 minutes ago, COCC said:
Please Looking for America is right thereomg i'm disgusted that i forgot about that song, i'll show myself out
Blue Banisters - Pre-Pre-Release Thread
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Lana's revenge is knowing we have leaked songs that are on the new album and not changing them at all, that's what we deserve