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I wonder how the Electra Heart project would look and what reactions it would receive had Dr. Luke not been involved in it.

I just discovered her Lykke Li cover, I'm so obsessed! Can she release something like that? Has she? I loved her two first albums but the rest was kind of meh at first glance; didn't bother to dive deeper, but this one sounds amazing.

Banks, Caroline Polachek, Lily Allen, Allie X: hey wanna collab? Marina: no one wants to collab with me

The Family Jewels is a daughter of Kate Bush's The Dreaming. I said what I said.

Not Marina being fake woke again... complaining about black fridays leading to overproduction and so on. Lmao. Rich people don't care about black fridays anyway and this is the social class that is best known for overconsumption. If you wanna change the world, consider philanthropy.

As much as I usually rant about L+F, I cannot disagree with you asserting its stress relieving vibe. I was sleepy in a car once, it was almost midnight, and I listened to the whole album; it was so peaceful and calm, really magical, lullaby-like, and really that's one of the moments where this smooth instrumentalisation does work. But I would fall asleep (not in a bad context!) in the past listening to Ultraviolence or Honeymoon as well, so it is not that big of an accomplishment. However, it's definitely something where TFJ/EH/FROOT fails due to being too upbeat.

Probably Billie Eilish alike.

she's not a liar, she's a libra

How come? TFJ is about her family issues, while solitaire is about her overcoming shyness and a feeling of being "worse" than the rest of the society, but still staying true to her introverted side. But yes, they both use diamond/crystal references.

It's not a problem that she, if it even was her, came up with the concept for love + fear at the last minute; it's just an explanation to why it's delivered so poorly. I understand your point: I am also annoyed by the inconsistency in Electra concept like Electra being a character/alter ego/nobody and all that jazz, but it all works quite smoothly. In fact, the Electra Heart concept was really broad and it touched upon different elements of the American culture as well as feminism; actually, the idea was not an ad hoc concept, Marina had its basics in mind before she even started writing songs like Bubblegum Bitch. Yes, tracks such as Power & Control were not meant for Electra Heart, but it is merely one of many songs on the album and it still fits one of the female archetypes. Marina came up with the idea of Electra Heart herself, not to fulfill the label's wish; what she did though for them was mixing the ideas for a blonde archetype heartbreaker popstar with no identity 'Electra Heart' and feminist-depressed Marina 'Die Life', which is unfortunate indeed, although still makes sense. Besides, I don't understand what an idiot one must be not to let her pretend to be another person during the EH era. I'm sure the press would be amazed by a pop star enigma that no one would know about and additionally she wouldn't get such a backlash from her old diehard TFJ fans. I understand that the campaign to suddenly promote a new artist would be a bit difficult and perhaps even costly, yet I'm sure it would pay off both in artistic and financial levels. Like, c'mon, the label did already pay for Dr. Luke collaboration and she already changed her whole appearence. What do you think?

At least he got fired shortly after. But I can see why an old white straight man wouldn't like it. Amazing that she even worked with him to begin with.

As far as I know it was her manager, the same one who didn't want Teen Idle on the album.

The fact that the material for Die Life is so good that it could easily make quite a solid separate album is insane.

The problem was people were afraid Marina was fading away, no one knew if she lost the artistry/effort whatsoever or it was just one weak/"pop" album. Besides, she shouldn't've said that it was her best record. People got too much excited. We put so much faith in her because how on Earth is your next gonna be better than all FROOT, TFJ and EH combined? And why even say that? Are you suddenly going to say it's your best because it's your newest? Marina clearly doesn't know what she's saying at times. Remember now what she said in Vogue; she didn't have that much control over L+F making process and was unsure. Yet she said what she said.

What a time to be alive

OUR MARINA (as we knew her) is BACK. The production finally has personality. At first the song felt weird but after a few listens I love it. The fact the video presents the Pleiades from Greek mythology made me appreciate it even more. At the beginning I was unconvinced by the lyrics because it felt as though she glued them together from different songs, but the vocal delivery makes it work. Beauty. girl they are completely different kinds of songs, superstar is a track similar to primadonna or htbah, stbs is a ballad similar to end of the earth or fear & loathing, and they are better than it. similarly, i would say i don't like primadonna that much but i cannot imagine electra heart without it and sometimes i can bop to it with no shame.

superstar is a nice bop, generic but at least catchy electropop. would still put soft to be strong somewhere but i don''t know how, since in my mind it's a closing track and end of the earth works better in this role.

I recently made two separate EPs in my imagination. Different sound, different vibe, cold vs. warm, night vs. day... Highly recommend. HANDMADE HEAVEN EP Handmade Heaven Emotional Machine Believe in Love Superstar True End of the Earth LEFKADA EP Orange Trees Baby Enjoy Your Life Karma To Be Human Didn't know what to do with the rest, most don't fit or I don't like, so expand as you please.

Well, glad that many of you like it. But for me it seems a little bit inauthentic of hers because, you know, she's been in a healthy, I hope, relationship for years, and it is the album that also has songs about how deeply in love she is, which in my opinion deliver real feelings much better. This track was co-written by Nowels and it shows. We're talking about a woman who was able to write Teen Idle, Numb and Buy the stars on her very own; of course I'm going to judge her harsher. (still, don't get me wrong! in my labelling this song is not bad, it's just mediocre.)

yes i've had, several times. i'd rather listen to electra heart ballads and if not, lana del rey or lykke li. here it just doesn't work (for me). the song is kinda cute but that's all. sorry to say that.

I loved, loved this song until Joey Graceffa ruined it completely. I can never look at it the same way again, the trauma.

I also dislike the discussion like "it's good / it's bad / no it's good / no it's bad" because it drives us nowhere. We need to keep to the facts and essential details. And for me, the whole concept was completely unnecessary. It feels so, so much that she had no idea for the album -- which she did not need to have -- then she decided to make a concept album out of the songs that have been already produced, which you should never ever do, and then suddenly record the final track, soft to be strong, a cheap song about nothing just to summarise the dumb concept for its listeners. sorry but no, i'm uninterested. let alone the fact she changed the logo and the whole imagery on the spur of the moment. maybe she was aware that some tracks were too lousy and had to give a concept to it, but this tactic failed miserably, especially by mixing the tropical latino influences with cold electropop. I have never listened to such a weird sonical juxtaposition and thus it's difficult to digest this album as a whole. anyway, stream man's world tomorrow.

probably the best line from the whole album, sonically and lyrically. at least in my opinion. i don't get moved by her freaking broken heart bla bla, be soft, be afraid, how to be a human bullshit, but THAT one is truly amazing.

I've listened to the new demos. They sound less boring and they prove that the album final production is way too polished and had had some potential, yet, still, the lyrics are meh. I'm getting a bad feeling that she doesn't know how to make a solid ballad anymore; she seems stuck in a cliched theme of Happy from FROOT, which at first was beautiful but now it is the same thing over and over. If I hear her "now I feel like I belong" kind of phrase once more I'm gonna scream. Of course we had a theme of her life/father/Hollywood hatred throughout the years but at least tracks sounded different. Remember the instrumentalisation of Rootless????? And now she thinks she can use piano and it'll be a wonderful track. No, honey, it won't. Anyway, I still have faith in her new project.

sex yeah is her wisest song she'll never be able to top