Stardust

Best interview this era. All about the music and from an interviewer who gets it too, fantastic.

This has to be one of my favourite interviews of Lana's ever   

I think @ pretty much summed it up. The reason 'we' are included in the 'game' is because we're as much a part of it as the celebrities are. We are the ones who judge the people in the public eye. It is definitely societal and we are creatures of society, but whether that is something innately human is up for debate, I guess.

I think @ pretty much summed it up. The reason 'we' are included in the 'game' is because we're as much a part of it as the celebrities are. We are the ones who judge the people in the public eye. It is definitely societal and we are creatures of society, but whether that is something innately human is up for debate, I guess.

I think @ pretty much summed it up. The reason 'we' are included in the 'game' is because we're as much a part of it as the celebrities are. We are the ones who judge the people in the public eye. It is definitely societal and we are creatures of society, but whether that is something innately human is up for debate, I guess.

hey guys,  i'm not sure if this is the right section for this thread, I hope it is.   This is my new mashup, which is Lana vs The XX,  and it's called Crystalised Coast.   I hope you all enjoy it! Made with much love. 
 
https://soundcloud.com/richardhauford/crystalised-coast
 

 
 
 
xo 
 
mod note: moved to fan art section.

Mortality is the one absolute common to the human condition, so it's pretty understandable for it to influence and be referenced frequently in an artists work, even if it isn't the dominant theme of her art. As I stated, there are suggestive undertones and these undertones clearly highlight to me that, as a person, she is clearly struck by the notion of death, but the main motif of her music is love and love lost: just because (for example) she sings 'your love is deadly' doesn't make 'Without You' about death. This is the difference I'm trying to distinguish.  
To be fair I'd retract my statement about BTD being the only song relating directly to death. I would agree that 'Dark Paradise' is also about death (although you could argue it was a breakup, artistic interpretation and all that) b ut more than that it's about undying love and the grief you feel when you lose a loved one. All I meant with that comment was that she isn't singing about wanting to actually die, she's singing about the hardship of having a loved one die (or leave) and the period you go through afterward, unable to move on & finding comfort in the fantasy of the person. So the lyric 'I wish I was dead' is, like I said, hyperbole to communicate the extent of the grief. I don't think she's glamorising death.
 
Similarly, with BTD.. This was the first song of Lana's I heard, and I dunno if it's just me, but the message I got from that song was one of seizing the day, enjoying and experiencing your life (and love) whilst you can - 'feet don't fail me now, take me to the finish line, oh my heart it breaks every step that they take' / 'don't make me sad. Don't make me cry... Keep making me laugh' / 'take a walk on the wild side' - because although everyone is 'born to die' it pains her to get older, and closer to death or the 'finish line,' which stands in stark contrast to romanticising death.
 
For me at least, the bulk of the lyrics you pulled out from each of the other songs don't pertain to the actual meanings of the songs as a whole. The use of the words relating to death: 'I'd die without you,' 'only worth living if somebody is loving you' etc. are figurative, imagery used as a means of expressing herself & as an allusion to something else, for the most part, the extent of love shehas for her man. Mortality is a recurring allusion but not to the extent that love (or even fame, power/submission, or nostalgia) is a motif through all of her work: she isn't, generally, singing about death. That's why I wouldn't call it a dominant theme.

I don't see death as being a prevalent theme throughout her music (from Born to Die/Ultraviolence anyway). None of the songs strike me as being based solely on death, implicit undertones perhaps, but 'Born to Die' is actually the only song that really deals with death, the rest of her music does seem to revolve around relationships. Maybe older stuff, but I'm guessing she's talking about the commercially released albums, which makes sense to me as that's what the majority of people would have heard and judged her on.  
I think it's different within the context of the song though. The reason she 'wishes she were dead' is a love lost. To me the lyric was just a way of emphasising the pain; it isn't a song about dying but she used hyperbole to make a point.  
Just my two cents anyway .

It's done!! But don't expect a perfect worded translation...it wasn't that easy to do this as the journalist often only wrote like half sentences, used some words even I as a german native speaker didn't know and just randomly used extremely complicate formulations. The fact that I'm not that good at english made it even more difficult to find the right words. There was also a lot of senseless blahblah and I didn't feel motivated enough to translate all of these things so I left out a few sentences (but not more than about 6 or 7). The last part is only a report about her concert in San Francisco and I didn't translate this one yet because there aren't any new information, I think...maybe I'll get on it later. Done!
Again this is just my translation of a translation so bear in mind that what I wrote might differ from the actual interview.
 
TRANSLATION

 

I think he killed her off metaphorically by leaving her. And he rues the day. And she knows it.
 
(Well, at least that's the story.)

Florida Kilos
 

 
I liked this one so much I thought of making it for the album but i'll do more 

i hear people say stuff like this all the time and like idgi, videos dont have to follow a storyline, sometimes theyre just pretty visuals that bring the song to life

Mortality is the one absolute common to the human condition, so it's pretty understandable for it to influence and be referenced frequently in an artists work, even if it isn't the dominant theme of her art. As I stated, there are suggestive undertones and these undertones clearly highlight to me that, as a person, she is clearly struck by the notion of death, but the main motif of her music is love and love lost: just because (for example) she sings 'your love is deadly' doesn't make 'Without You' about death. This is the difference I'm trying to distinguish.  
To be fair I'd retract my statement about BTD being the only song relating directly to death. I would agree that 'Dark Paradise' is also about death (although you could argue it was a breakup, artistic interpretation and all that) b ut more than that it's about undying love and the grief you feel when you lose a loved one. All I meant with that comment was that she isn't singing about wanting to actually die, she's singing about the hardship of having a loved one die (or leave) and the period you go through afterward, unable to move on & finding comfort in the fantasy of the person. So the lyric 'I wish I was dead' is, like I said, hyperbole to communicate the extent of the grief. I don't think she's glamorising death.
 
Similarly, with BTD.. This was the first song of Lana's I heard, and I dunno if it's just me, but the message I got from that song was one of seizing the day, enjoying and experiencing your life (and love) whilst you can - 'feet don't fail me now, take me to the finish line, oh my heart it breaks every step that they take' / 'don't make me sad. Don't make me cry... Keep making me laugh' / 'take a walk on the wild side' - because although everyone is 'born to die' it pains her to get older, and closer to death or the 'finish line,' which stands in stark contrast to romanticising death.
 
For me at least, the bulk of the lyrics you pulled out from each of the other songs don't pertain to the actual meanings of the songs as a whole. The use of the words relating to death: 'I'd die without you,' 'only worth living if somebody is loving you' etc. are figurative, imagery used as a means of expressing herself & as an allusion to something else, for the most part, the extent of love shehas for her man. Mortality is a recurring allusion but not to the extent that love (or even fame, power/submission, or nostalgia) is a motif through all of her work: she isn't, generally, singing about death. That's why I wouldn't call it a dominant theme.

Well I don't know, death is kind of a big deal, so why not write about it if one wants to? The point about her glamorizing it or it being about herself would be irrelevant if everybody had the mindset that no matter what she says on the topic, the choice will always be yours to interpret her songs as fiction or character studies. Also didn't somebody ask her about "Die Young" tattoo, and didn't she come up with some kind of politically correct answer for it?

http://popdirt.com/lana-del-rey-on-die-young-tattoo-lizzy-grant-name-change/112217/

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"And that's just BTD. I could go on all day with her other albums and unreleased material."

Her leaks and unreleased don't seem saturated with self-death imagery to me. Other death imagery (aka tragedy) maybe, but that is not a controversial thing in art. In LDRAKALG there's "Jump", which is probably the most explicit on suicide, but it's just one song, and I still think it has a right to exist as a song. I mean isn't Hollywood's Dead a great song on the topic of death emphasizing tragedy over glamor?

Mortality is the one absolute common to the human condition, so it's pretty understandable for it to influence and be referenced frequently in an artists work, even if it isn't the dominant theme of her art. As I stated, there are suggestive undertones and these undertones clearly highlight to me that, as a person, she is clearly struck by the notion of death, but the main motif of her music is love and love lost: just because (for example) she sings 'your love is deadly' doesn't make 'Without You' about death. This is the difference I'm trying to distinguish.  
To be fair I'd retract my statement about BTD being the only song relating directly to death. I would agree that 'Dark Paradise' is also about death (although you could argue it was a breakup, artistic interpretation and all that) b ut more than that it's about undying love and the grief you feel when you lose a loved one. All I meant with that comment was that she isn't singing about wanting to actually die, she's singing about the hardship of having a loved one die (or leave) and the period you go through afterward, unable to move on & finding comfort in the fantasy of the person. So the lyric 'I wish I was dead' is, like I said, hyperbole to communicate the extent of the grief. I don't think she's glamorising death.
 
Similarly, with BTD.. This was the first song of Lana's I heard, and I dunno if it's just me, but the message I got from that song was one of seizing the day, enjoying and experiencing your life (and love) whilst you can - 'feet don't fail me now, take me to the finish line, oh my heart it breaks every step that they take' / 'don't make me sad. Don't make me cry... Keep making me laugh' / 'take a walk on the wild side' - because although everyone is 'born to die' it pains her to get older, and closer to death or the 'finish line,' which stands in stark contrast to romanticising death.
 
For me at least, the bulk of the lyrics you pulled out from each of the other songs don't pertain to the actual meanings of the songs as a whole. The use of the words relating to death: 'I'd die without you,' 'only worth living if somebody is loving you' etc. are figurative, imagery used as a means of expressing herself & as an allusion to something else, for the most part, the extent of love shehas for her man. Mortality is a recurring allusion but not to the extent that love (or even fame, power/submission, or nostalgia) is a motif through all of her work: she isn't, generally, singing about death. That's why I wouldn't call it a dominant theme.

Mortality is the one absolute common to the human condition, so it's pretty understandable for it to influence and be referenced frequently in an artists work, even if it isn't the dominant theme of her art. As I stated, there are suggestive undertones and these undertones clearly highlight to me that, as a person, she is clearly struck by the notion of death, but the main motif of her music is love and love lost: just because (for example) she sings 'your love is deadly' doesn't make 'Without You' about death. This is the difference I'm trying to distinguish.  
To be fair I'd retract my statement about BTD being the only song relating directly to death. I would agree that 'Dark Paradise' is also about death (although you could argue it was a breakup, artistic interpretation and all that) b ut more than that it's about undying love and the grief you feel when you lose a loved one. All I meant with that comment was that she isn't singing about wanting to actually die, she's singing about the hardship of having a loved one die (or leave) and the period you go through afterward, unable to move on & finding comfort in the fantasy of the person. So the lyric 'I wish I was dead' is, like I said, hyperbole to communicate the extent of the grief. I don't think she's glamorising death.
 
Similarly, with BTD.. This was the first song of Lana's I heard, and I dunno if it's just me, but the message I got from that song was one of seizing the day, enjoying and experiencing your life (and love) whilst you can - 'feet don't fail me now, take me to the finish line, oh my heart it breaks every step that they take' / 'don't make me sad. Don't make me cry... Keep making me laugh' / 'take a walk on the wild side' - because although everyone is 'born to die' it pains her to get older, and closer to death or the 'finish line,' which stands in stark contrast to romanticising death.
 
For me at least, the bulk of the lyrics you pulled out from each of the other songs don't pertain to the actual meanings of the songs as a whole. The use of the words relating to death: 'I'd die without you,' 'only worth living if somebody is loving you' etc. are figurative, imagery used as a means of expressing herself & as an allusion to something else, for the most part, the extent of love shehas for her man. Mortality is a recurring allusion but not to the extent that love (or even fame, power/submission, or nostalgia) is a motif through all of her work: she isn't, generally, singing about death. That's why I wouldn't call it a dominant theme.

Mortality is the one absolute common to the human condition, so it's pretty understandable for it to influence and be referenced frequently in an artists work, even if it isn't the dominant theme of her art. As I stated, there are suggestive undertones and these undertones clearly highlight to me that, as a person, she is clearly struck by the notion of death, but the main motif of her music is love and love lost: just because (for example) she sings 'your love is deadly' doesn't make 'Without You' about death. This is the difference I'm trying to distinguish.  
To be fair I'd retract my statement about BTD being the only song relating directly to death. I would agree that 'Dark Paradise' is also about death (although you could argue it was a breakup, artistic interpretation and all that) b ut more than that it's about undying love and the grief you feel when you lose a loved one. All I meant with that comment was that she isn't singing about wanting to actually die, she's singing about the hardship of having a loved one die (or leave) and the period you go through afterward, unable to move on & finding comfort in the fantasy of the person. So the lyric 'I wish I was dead' is, like I said, hyperbole to communicate the extent of the grief. I don't think she's glamorising death.
 
Similarly, with BTD.. This was the first song of Lana's I heard, and I dunno if it's just me, but the message I got from that song was one of seizing the day, enjoying and experiencing your life (and love) whilst you can - 'feet don't fail me now, take me to the finish line, oh my heart it breaks every step that they take' / 'don't make me sad. Don't make me cry... Keep making me laugh' / 'take a walk on the wild side' - because although everyone is 'born to die' it pains her to get older, and closer to death or the 'finish line,' which stands in stark contrast to romanticising death.
 
For me at least, the bulk of the lyrics you pulled out from each of the other songs don't pertain to the actual meanings of the songs as a whole. The use of the words relating to death: 'I'd die without you,' 'only worth living if somebody is loving you' etc. are figurative, imagery used as a means of expressing herself & as an allusion to something else, for the most part, the extent of love shehas for her man. Mortality is a recurring allusion but not to the extent that love (or even fame, power/submission, or nostalgia) is a motif through all of her work: she isn't, generally, singing about death. That's why I wouldn't call it a dominant theme.

I don't see death as being a prevalent theme throughout her music (from Born to Die/Ultraviolence anyway). None of the songs strike me as being based solely on death, implicit undertones perhaps, but 'Born to Die' is actually the only song that really deals with death, the rest of her music does seem to revolve around relationships. Maybe older stuff, but I'm guessing she's talking about the commercially released albums, which makes sense to me as that's what the majority of people would have heard and judged her on.  
I think it's different within the context of the song though. The reason she 'wishes she were dead' is a love lost. To me the lyric was just a way of emphasising the pain; it isn't a song about dying but she used hyperbole to make a point.  
Just my two cents anyway .

In "Florida Kilos," I thought she said "You snort it like a chimp." 

I don't see death as being a prevalent theme throughout her music (from Born to Die/Ultraviolence anyway). None of the songs strike me as being based solely on death, implicit undertones perhaps, but 'Born to Die' is actually the only song that really deals with death, the rest of her music does seem to revolve around relationships. Maybe older stuff, but I'm guessing she's talking about the commercially released albums, which makes sense to me as that's what the majority of people would have heard and judged her on.  
I think it's different within the context of the song though. The reason she 'wishes she were dead' is a love lost. To me the lyric was just a way of emphasising the pain; it isn't a song about dying but she used hyperbole to make a point.  
Just my two cents anyway .

I don't see death as being a prevalent theme throughout her music (from Born to Die/Ultraviolence anyway). None of the songs strike me as being based solely on death, implicit undertones perhaps, but 'Born to Die' is actually the only song that really deals with death, the rest of her music does seem to revolve around relationships. Maybe older stuff, but I'm guessing she's talking about the commercially released albums, which makes sense to me as that's what the majority of people would have heard and judged her on.  
I think it's different within the context of the song though. The reason she 'wishes she were dead' is a love lost. To me the lyric was just a way of emphasising the pain; it isn't a song about dying but she used hyperbole to make a point.  
Just my two cents anyway .