Taylor Secman

Miss Lana performances where she was visibly intoxicated with pupils like dinner plates

Get Free Lost* For Amy and for Whitney And all my birds of paradise Who never got to fly at night 'And perhaps they never will Sometimes it feels like I've got a war in my mind I want to get off, I’m fucking sick of this ride I never really noticed that I had to decide To play someone's game, or take my own life

Somebody hard of hearing/anybody that has the ability to read lips needs to transcribe what she said during the part of her live where the sound went out

he isn't gunna fuck you 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Lil Nas X, literally over sexualizing homosexuality for shock value in a sad attempt to get the GP to stream his music, and then public eats it up and call him a marketing genius when it’s really that he has absolutely zero morals, the quality of his music or talent alone will never get him recognition so he has to rely on public acts of indecency, and then seeing the industry embrace him it’s like what the fuck stupid faggot who decided that his response to homophobia was to worship the devil, “oh people were mean to me for being gay let me idolize the fucking devil” what a sad man, he’s ugly as FUCK too User has been warned for this post

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The last film made 300k on a nearly 6 million budget! Who keeps giving her the budget to keep making movies lmao

Emile and Mike have worked together on Runaway which is one of Kanye’s most important songs

I believe in astrology, but I don’t understand it what does this indicate?

Polydor and her team are so embarrassing for having a streaming party, they’re clearly desperate to raise these streaming numbers (despite everyone in this thread claiming no one cares about streaming numbers) this is some justin bieber begging ppl for streams on instagram type mess

I’m so curious as to what fucked up shit Lana’s ancestors did that’s necessary of her to heal her karmic lineage, I have some theories but nothing substantial

I never said it was objectively bad I said it was uninteresting, don’t put words in my mouth. Also saying her current music is objectively good is not an okay assertion to make. And why is relatable music the measure of how good a song is??! To me at least, you don’t have to relate to something for it to be good. People watch keeping up with the kardashians because it’s relatable? No, because its exciting and fun to watch rich people do shit. Interesting storytelling doesn’t have to be relatable to be intriguing. Most of the time NOT ALL of the time there should be some element of fantasy to keep things interesting

I literally said that the themes shes exploring about simplicity i don’t find interesting ☠️ You’re constantly projecting telling me that anyone who doesn’t find her current music captivating are all just wanting another born to die or some lolita type bullshit. She went from singing about the chateau marmont and exotic cars to her pickup truck toyota and the hilton hotel which are very normal every day places and things. Lets not act like she isn’t idolizing the mundane at this point, because she is. She literally doesn’t want an exciting life anymore and the music reflects that, period.

She’s written about things that aren’t entirely real in the past but she’s actually still writing about things that aren’t entirely real now too. Throughout her songwriting she’s always used her lyrics as a method of manifestation for things she wants in her life, when she was living in a trailer park she’d write about living in the glamorous part of hollywood and diamonds, getting fame noteriety and rivera’s etc, and these were often fantastical ideals that made the music to me at least very interesting. They became true for her when they manifested themselves eventually with the weird way the universe works or whatever she’s been able to get the things she writes about, almost prophetic now she’s still trying to manifest a simple life, “give me children take away my pain”, “i’ve got a kid and two cats in the yard”, “A simple life, I chose this”, these things may not have manifested yet but she’s still writing about things that aren’t entirely real in an attempt to like bring them into her life but there really is not much interesting about the imagery she’s associated her songwriting with currently it isn’t fantastical or as you said dreamy, theres nothing too exciting about a simple life with a child and being in the backyard but it is what she thinks will give her happiness

I disagree that she is experimenting, and the songs are not complex, her writing is very much simple and more autobiographical like literally a diary entry and direct inner monologue, she’s definitely going for the less is more route which is like fine, she wants a simple life and these are simple songs about the her every day life, nothing more this isn’t like experimentation I think she’s just settled into her new sound and this is it, its where she’s comfortable at as an artist, i don’t see her experimenting with new sounds and her last 3 records show that she isnt going to really experiment, we’re going to be seeing more piano

Absolutely don’t stan Lana for her chart placement, I would stan Lana for her mystique, her ability to create exotic unique cinematic music, she used to make music that sounded like a glamorous soundtrack to a film of her life, she was able to mix different genres and samples, that usually don't go together, into a song and album that surprisingly harmonizes well the mystique is dead, she doesn’t even fully go by lana now and signs messages with her birth name, has been narrating the same tired diary entry songs, almost no editing, songs aren’t even properly mixed and differ between platforms, w the exception of a few songs on the new record its more of the same piano ballad that the people on this website tell themselves is her evolving as an artist when really she’s been doing almost the same thing for 3 records now, 2 at the keast

Subtract her physical sales from all her first sales of her past records, and blue banisters is still the lowest selling by a long shot, what now? Whats not clicking the sales are bad? No artist from a major label record like interscope should be selling 25k

If TikTok is any measure, she has like two albums worth of unreleased music which have never been promoted, radio plays, playlisting etc that are being listened to more than any song on this record

Look, At the end of the day it’s personal taste, I like “get” the record, i get the symbolism of violets for roses and the banisters that are blue and green and grey etc, i can see the brilliance in her songwriting but my attitude to this whole album can be summarized in Lana’s own words which she said in an interview with Jack a year ago “I don’t really care if you mush an amazing life story into an alternative record. If the melodies don’t stun me, I kind of don’t care. I think it’s interesting if you’re yelling and shouting and talking about where you’re going and what it’s been like, but to me that’s not a record. That’s a therapy session.”

You’re missing the point, i don’t understand how you’re not seeing the correlation between people enjoying music and streaming numbers, if the fan base liked this album they would be listening to it like constantly streaming the songs because they want to keep hearing it, and people are simply not streaming the songs because probably they just don’t like the album all that much Also this argument against streams not equalling quality simply isn’t true especially for poets which Lana prides herself as being, in the words of Lana’s own favorite poet Walt Whitman: “The proof of a poet is that his country absorbs him as affectionately as he has absorbed it” Seeing my own Last.Fm streaming numbers I’m barely listening to this record and thats reflective of the general listening numbers of me and my friends who have been long time fans of lana, from personal experience and what I’m seeing in numbers from this record You said previously that Blue banisters is “what keeps us stay and keeping up with her” and i was using streaming nunbers to say you’re wrong, people definitely wanted to keep up with her in the past and thats evident when she was debuting with 100k a week for every other album, how could you say this album is what makes us want to stay keeping up with her with only 25k people, more people would be streaming this album if we wanted to keep up

If the fanbase really loved Blue Banisters it wouldn’t be tanking in streaming. The hype around Lana died years ago so it was always her dedicated fans not new listeners that kept her streaming up, she isn’t a singles artist and has always been an albums artist and that is from her huge audience that connected with her previous records and stream the fuck out of them constantly, and with this album the fan base just isn’t listening anymore album releases are much like new seasons of television shows, if the last season was good, then people tune again in next season, but when the show starts getting repetitive and repeating the same storylines, then the viewership goes down If people wanted more of this introspective very matter of fact lyricism and simple instrumentation then we’d see more people listening to it, but it appears that isnt the case even violet the book sold more copies than this record and those are purely physical books, physical copies and streaming included of this album will probably sell less than that BOOK which I would believe only her fan base would buy, a musical artist has less fans listening to her latest record than a book she put out just over a year ago , i think that speaks for itself in terms of our fanbases enjoyment of this record Now i know that not EVERY fan isn’t disliking the album like i get it its personal taste but the fans who are enjoying this album are definitely in the minority and the numbers show it also dealer is “trending” on tiktok but even Lana’s unreleased which have never seen the light of day have been more than a 100x more viral than dealer :/

Not once in the last few pages of this thread have I seen a single post from any user on this website asking Lana to revisit the Born to die soundscape Also your point in itself about how Lana shouldn’t revisit old sounds literally doesn’t add up when on this record 4 of the songs were written during the Ultraviolence era i would not say that this new album from Lana is a new soundscape for her at all, its the typical melodic arrangements and instrumentation we’ve seen from her in the past only mastered which I’ll give her props for but as you mentioned just like the last record the same lyricism thats “introspective, neo-folk incursion into a desire in escaping to a simpler reality, where fame doesn’t exist” she’s literally RE-USING songs from a decade ago and youre like “wow growth” “her writing has improved”???????

Where did I say that her those albums were cohesive, I said that THIS album is not cohesive, unless your definition of cohesive is different than the dictionary one that I go by, then how can you can consider Thunder and Dealer being on the same album as Arcadia and Sweet Caroline cohesive??? Its obvious they were recorded at different times because they were, not only sonically but lyrically cherry blossom, living legend and necter of the gods are thematically entirely different than the rest of the record??? Also improve your reading comprehension skills, I was merely making the point that NEW listeners which doesnt include you would PROBABLY not DEFINITELY, not be revisiting Lana’s discography if the first they’ve ever heard of her was this album This album relies HEAVILY on already being familiar with Lana “by the way thanks for the hate I’ll pray for ya”, the references to her daddy issues etc, and these references would go over peoples head if they weren’t already a listener

Thats why I compared to Lana’s own previous sales to her current sales for this record, she like never promotes her albums and they still managed to do well, also even if you remove all the vinyl sales from all of her first week sales of all of her previous albums, including chemtrails, they have still all sold more than Blue Banisters

All of the songs that he listed are some of the brilliant songs that got us into loving Lana in the first place, none of the songs on Blue Banisters are what make us fans of her, anyone who’s listening to Blue Banisters was already a fan previously which of course is only because its a couple days old but highly doubt any new listeners who will be listening to Lana for the first time with Blue Banisters will be revisiting her discography the album is absolutely not cohesive, its a collection of songs and its very obvious with a couple of songs that they were recorded at very different times than the rest of the record