wilting daisy

i almost wanted to wait for the pink but its the worst one so i'm glad i didn't. i'm so glad i got the yellow when it was up bc i think its the best. now that we've seen all the covers, i hope evwryone is happy with whatever one they got.

were we in the same tunnel pre-release thread? bc the one i was in everyone was constantly dragging banisters and saying thwy don't even count it as one of her albums bc its "so bad". and of course also a bunch of people blaming jack for how the album turned out despite him not even being apart it lol. the only time there were more than a small minority of people on here defending banisters was in the first couple days after it was released.

i'll admit this would be a fun album and i'd probably love it and defend it tooth & nail, but it would also get kinda boring pretty fast. the best albums need a bit of mystique and poeticism to them. somwthing that takes a few listens to even grasp. like when i make unreleased collections, the ones of just fun upbeat songs go hard but aren't as fulfilling as the ones full of weird, raw & chaotic songs. and like every actual lana album including btd have stuff that are a little off beat and strange that take some time to fully understand and vibe with and that's what i love.

she clearly means it in a way that's different than what her fans say. being inspired by her boyfriends when creating the world of her music as in the themes and stories is different than saying whatever genre she's doing is because its whatever her boyfriend likes. you have to willfully misunderstand what she's saying to think this backs up what the othwr person posted.

i hate when fans imply that whatevwr lana is doing musically is tied to whoevwr she's dating as if she doesn't have any thoughts or interests of her own. every music style she's done is influenced by a variety of music she's loved for years.

if you hate when lana does something (in her own time) that's too lana, do you even like her? the reason its the perfect song for her to sing is bc its so perfectly lana. this is the kind of thing lana was talking about in the question for thw culture. just let her being unapologetically herself!! she shouldn't have to change who she is just for wveryone's aproval. sorry that lana isn't going to bars with her friends to perform a song that she doesn't relate to just to impress people who don't know her and aren't there with her.

this reminds me of a tweet i saw awhile back that said lana is for the catholic girlies and taylor is for the protestant girlies and it made me realize that most of the catholic women i know who like both really do prefer lana and most of the protestant girls i know who like both really do prefer taylor

i like all to well but i don't really care for the 10 minute version. it changes the narrative and mood of the song and messes with the flow and the emotional build up is nonexistent. i also don't believe the 10 minute version was fully formed as it is now back in 2012. we know there was a 10 minute jam session and we know she had lots of ideas that liz rose helped her edit down into a proper song and we know her diaries had some extra lyrics that would realistically be in the 10 minute version if it was fully formed back then but they're not. i feel like she knew she had to put together an extended version to make fans happy but all the lyrics she added felt like looking back at the relationship years later and seeing it clearer from a distance instead of the raw emotions of something that just ended. but imo the original all to well is perfect and i love it. idk if i would call it her best song, she has a lot of songs that could potentially be "the best song". and yeah i guess its kind of overrated now but i feel like the 10 minute version is especially overrated and fans act like it elevates the whole song when it doesnt and i feel like before taylor did red tv, the original all to well wasn't overrated yet. yeah lots of people thought it was her best but they were open to other opinions whereas now they all act like it's objectively her best song and we can't argue that. i also agree with you about evermore being her best album. after that i'd say red (the original, not tv). reputation could be up there too if it had different production bc the writing itself is top tier but the production drags it down.

yes! this is kinda what i meant when i said laura nyro vibes the othwr day. like if she kept her poetic confessional songwriting but paired it with girl group style melodies and harmonies but also with some of her eccentricities added on top

probably not this round bc i really do feel like we're getting like avante garde country jazz or something along those lines but in the future i wouldn't mind something with laura nyro vibes from lana. kinda upbeat eccentric piano led tracks with multi-tracked vocals and brill building style melodies. i feel like lana's music is already fairly laura nyro adjacent but something more explicitly inspired by her would be fun.

debating getting the lime repress bc i don't have that one but i do already have the pink one so its not really necessary and i already hate myself for having 3 copies of violet, chemtrails, bainsters, & tunnel bc i'm only supposed to have 2 of each album. i'll probably get it tho bc i have no self control.

no i agree that its good she's shedding light on this issue and hopefully it does change things for smaller artists. its like with her streaming boycott, it didn't matter how much money she made from streams but it did help smaller artists who were losing money when streaming took over. and i might be pessimistic but i feel like this time its actually leas likely for things to change for the better from this. i feel like labels are gonna make stricter contracta now that prevent rerecordings altogether and anyone who wants to get signed will have to deal with being screwed over. what taylor really needs to do is start her own label and sign new acts and give them contracta that actually benefit them.

but since she wrote the songs, she still does make money from them. this isn't like popstars from the 60s who didn't write their songs and often made no money at all from their music. like yeah she deserves to own her masters and get all the royalties but its not like she's not getting paid at all. and i'm a big swiftie too so i'm not just trying to drag taylor or anything. i just hate that people act like she makes no money off her old music. i also hate when people refer to those albums as "stolen" but that's a whole other story. taylor's lucky tho that she has such a fiercely loyal fanbase who are largely willing to boycott her original albums and switch to the newer inferior recordings bc most artists would probably lose even more money from this rerecording endeavour.

when lana reworks trash magic for ldr10

i need this song. i'm praying its real. if not, someone needs to make it real.

at least with violet and chemtrails it was mostly just different vinyl colours so its easier for (some) fans to hold back from buying every variant but in general i think lots of artists (including lana) release way too many vinyl variants. and lanels only do this now bc they realized thwy can get fans to buy like 12 copies of the same album if the vinyl is a different colour wven if its just slight shade variations. even the barbie soundtrack had a bunch of variants and that was just so... excessive. even with lana's past few albums she has been releasing more alt covers than she used to and that's a little frustrating for me bc i don't get every variant but with lana (and only lana) i do always get 1 standard black and 1 coloured vinyl/alt cover and its hardwr to choose a second one now (yes, first world problems, i know lol). so the billions of vinyl variants thing isnt specifically a taylor thing and i think its a problem bc its so wasteful and especially when things are advertised as limited it makes fans more likely to make impulse buys to avoid fomo.

obviously scooter doesn't deserve to benefit from her work but that's just the sad reality of the music business. and no it shouldn't be like that and artists should all get to own their work but labels aren't gonna sign artists if they don't get something out of it so its not likely to change. these businesses thrive on being predatory. and obviously taylor should've been given the opportunity to buy her music first but its not the end of the world that she didn't get to like most artists never get the opportunity to own their music and they survive. she at least still makes money from those songs since she wrote them. artists who don't write their own music or own their masters barely make anything at all. and i'm glad taylor is bringing this whole predatory system to everyone's attention and hopefully this move helps bring at least a little change (just like when she got streaming services to pay smaller artists more) but the rerecordings still feel like she's weaponizing her fanbase and taking advantage of them and i just don't like that. but as i said i'm still buying all her rerecordings and supporting her anyway. and obviously the rerecordings have been very beneficial to her career so i'm glad its going well for her.

i'm happy for her getting to own her masters this way like seriously power to her but most artists don't own their work either and even if hardcore swifties boycott the original versions of the albums, lots of people will still buy & stream them and taylor already has so much money its not hurting her. but i mean i still buy all her rerecordings bc i want to support her and i like getting to hear vault tracks. but overall i still think it was unnecessary to rerecord all the albums and part of me feels like it was kind of greedy and like she's taking advantage of her fans

this is why no matter how much effort taylor puts into them, the rerecordings will never be as good as the originals. you can't recapture lightning in a bottle.

girl what do you know

i know these songs are all very different but kill kill, salvatore, venice bitch

girl calm down i'm just making a joke bc i don't hear the similarities between beautiful & sweet like at all i don't hear it but this is the unpopular opiniona thread so live n let live

yes all piano ballads are exactly the same. i can barely tell the difference between video games and arcadia.

i don't think thw people saying they like everything lana puts out are implying that you have to like wverything she releases or that its bad to have any criticisms of her work. some of us just genuinely are happy with whatever she releases bc we're so emotionally invested in her work and we like a large variety of musical styles so we're not easily disappointed in her output. we all still have preferences and sometimes songs need time to grow on us. we don't think we're better fans for being happy with whatever she releases. we're just sharing that we're always happy to get new music from her. like its not that serious.