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I cannot believe that music like this exists. Is this song a comment on people not being "original" while sounding like music for a Doritos commercial made in five minutes on GarageBand by an in-house jingle writer at Disney? What is SMASH? Why does this exist? Let me see if the magikarp flops around this time

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Speaking of...it seems Lana had the GNR version in mind for her cover (which, as i write that, i realize now that it's pretty obvious she would have). Man, your Malcolm McDowell milk sipping gif is making me uneasy, the way it freezes for a bit and looks like a still but then it just comes to life.

I am here to further uproot this thread and initiate a riot. Smash Beatles/Lennon/McCartney idolatry and burn the temple to the ground (with no offense, of course, to those who do genuinely like them). Most overrated music and band in the universe--given the way that they are widely viewed as the be-all and end-all of popular music, they can't possibly not be overrated. The cult-like mentality that deifies both the band and its two principal members has been damaging to the music world for close to fifty years. Not their fault, of course. They have a few good songs though (though mostly not even the Lennon ones ) Peace, d00d. I <3 NY

Will you still BE AGGRESSIVE, B-E AGGRESSIVE, love me, B-E-A-G-G-R-E-S-S-I-V-E, when i'm no longer young and beautiful.

Not sure if this is a fat joke or, like, his wife is due soon/recently had a baby, and so he can't tour right now.

Ha, i actually don't dislike the loon (whatever it happens to be--i'd be surprised if Haynie created the sound), i just have a lot of issues with how much/often he uses it, and also how loud it usually is in the mix. Now that i think of it more, i wonder if it's an ego thing. What i mean by that is that it seems like an attempt to put his "producer's stamp" on the stuff he produces, like a calling card of sorts. That was kind of a big thing in the '90s with Timbaland, how one could always recognize a Timbaland single and his signature sound when they heard it. Although, unlike Haynie, Timbaland was pretty adventurous and varied for a while. I don't think he got gimmicky until later.

I really like what they’ve done with the arrangements. Lots of nuance, variation, and attention to detail. I’m also really glad there’s a new drummer/percussionist. I wasn’t too fond of the previous one and this new guy is great. Anyone happen to know who he is? EDIT: And those small changes with the full band on Video Games really breathes new life into the song. Really nice

Off topic, but in response to your post: I'm not singling you out here, but i hear that explanation a lot--that he was going for a dark/atmospheric sort of vibe on the record--and i don't understand it. What's so dark or moody about Rick James yelling throughout an entire record? You are right that there are so many things to get samples from. But i would take it a step further and say that there are also so many things to get sound from. One need not look toward prerecorded ones. Everywhere you look, all around us, there are interesting, everyday sounds to be found, in plain view, or hidden and waiting to be discovered, or waiting to be created and crafted. I cannot comprehend the concept of lifting entire elements from someone else's work (every single detail about it: the idea itself, the engineering [microphone selection and placement, etc.], the performance and execution, the production, the mix, etc.) when the world is full of endless sound possibilities. How boring can a person be? People like Haynie are, in my opinion, a threat to the art and magic of record production, contributing to its homogenization and degradation, and they're better suited to filing someone's taxes than shaping the sound of someone's record. Good god, can you tell i don't like the guy's work? Ha. Anyway, i don't want to derail this thread. Back to the good news of a new Lana recording!

Me too, definitely. That sounded so good and interesting and unexpected. And analog synths and drum machine! Sounded really exciting. Will someone inform me when it's available? I don’t keep up with this shit. The movie looks unwatchable. The Y&B melody kind of stinks and her delivery sounds very phoned in. Maybe it’ll be a “grower” though. The guy is the quintessence of a one-trick pony. It's unreal how limited his scope as a producer is. It borders on self-parody. And i doubt he himself created any of the sonic stamps you hear on everything he touches. I mean, we're talking about a guy who overuses an already overused Rick James sample.

I'm still laughing at the title of this thread, that it's only one breast. Don't change it though, please.

Wait, is this thread only about one of her breasts? Surprised evil hasn’t come in here yet with some dirty old man hashtags. Ya’ll need to get out more into the real world if you think Lana’s breasts are that tiny. They’re “small” but not exceptionally so. Small breasts rule though. Itty Bitty Titty Committee Appreciation charter member right here, folks Anything bigger than a B is too big for my, uhm...taste. I'm gonna go now.

^ Most mysterious first post & general post on the forum to date.

SO pumped 4 this new album, bitchez. Katy is my LYFE.

SM57s/58s (they're the same mic in reality with a different grille) are cardioid not super. But i was talking solely about video aesthetics--she's in what looks like a dimly lit bar or practice space with equipment seen in the background, wearing a flannel shirt. The mic is very appropriate. I would bet a bajillion dollars that she's never actually cut vocals using an SM57 (at least not since BTD). With these kinds of productions like BTD, the mic is the strongest link, not the weakest, so i'm not concerned at all with what mic they're using on her vocals. I've only ever seen her recording with one of those Manley Gold mics, which are like $5,000-$7,000, in those photos that came out a couple of months ago in that little project studio with Rick Nowles (?) Pickup pattern is honestly probably the very least of my concerns (the mics that she would be using in the studio, like the aforementioned Manley, will have variable pickup patterns anyway, so any of those mics can go from hypercardioid, cardioid, figure 8, omni, etc. literally with one switch). I am most concerned with the preamaps that these engineers/producers are going into, but especially all these "in the box" effects and plug-ins. Like, whatever reverb plug-ins have been used on her vocals since BTD stink. The worst offender so far is the reverb on the new Yayo. Not because it's a very big sounding reverb but just because it's an overly bright, shitty, cheap sounding plug-in. Million Dollar Man is another terrible use of cheap reverb plug-ins. I'd love to hear her vocals coming from a real, well-built echo chamber. *Interesting side note: I remember back when Homogenic came out, Bjork mentioned once in an interview how she intentionally chose to use an SM58 on her studio vocals because she liked its plain quality and the fact that it was an easy microphone to hold in her hand (!) I saw footage around this time of her in the studio recording vocals, and she was indeed holding the mic, and it was indeed an SM58. Whatever works for you, right?

Is it just me or does anyone else want to start singing Tennessee Waltz when Chelsea Hotel No. 2 starts?

Ha! My very first thought when i started watching the video was that i was glad to see she was using a beat up, taped up SM57 (probably the most common low end microphone of the last 30 years) rather than resorting to the cliched, gimmicky 55S, which is just such a tired visual device at this point. It's nice to see they went for something understated, real, mundane. It's such a tiny detail, but i don't know, it's refreshing that a Lana Del Rey video doesn't always have to be tapping into that silly "vintage" trope (i say as i ignore the fact that the entire video has an Instagram-like filter applied to it).

God, you are so good at always finding the most appropriate references. I wish Trololo would play in stores when i went shopping. Maybe that would ease my mind.

I will tell everyone about you, Loon. Your career and forum fame will be over. Don't toy with my neuroses.

I'm really neurotic and have a lot of irrational fears and paranoia. One of these is that every time i am in a store i always think that everyone in the store is convinced that i'm stealing stuff. It doesn't matter what my mood is, or what the store is, or how i'm dressed, etc. Nothing affects it, i just always fear that people are thinking this. I once stole a pack of guitar strings when i was like 14 and that's the only time i've ever stolen, so the fear isn't based on past behavior. Similar to this, every time a new troll account crops up, i have the same irrational fear, that everyone is thinking i'm behind the troll account. It makes me nervous. I can't ever quell my worries. Do you two realize what you have just done by making these comments??

Yeah, d00d, she's also got a mustache, did u see that shit, brO? Get rid of that and b a woman!!!1

This is new to me. Nice find, Tee Pee Dee. Dang, you got The Boss and The Doors, and edna got a JB song with some hefty praise. Why u no play a BB song 4 Moni, Lana, and make me swoon 2? God, It Was A Very Good Year is such a fucking monster of a song and arrangement, it almost makes me sweat. Or cry. Or jump out a window. Or rejoice. And i don’t even like Sinatra. I wonder what that vision is for a record that she says would take a while to create. That sounds so intriguing. I wish she was as in control of her music as she seems to be of her videos. That’s what i want. I’m really curious what that would lead to. When she was describing each producers’ role and she got to Emile Haynie, i just laughed: “He kind of finishes up each track...” Yeah, he does, Lana, he sure does. Skip that step in the future, k? I’m with her on Cola being the coolest song on the record

Ha, i figured some of you would be puzzled. I didn't mean to imply that the movie itself is just, to use your phrase, an exercise in trolling, just the marketing/trailer. It's a Harmony Korine film. With Disney actors. And James Franco. And Gucci Mane. Called Spring Breakers. Shot on location in Florida. On Spring Break. Therein lies the absurdity (to those who are familiar with Korine and his previous work). But i don't think he wasn't serious about making the film and that he was only trying to antagonize a misled audience. I think he set out to create a film that reflects certain aspects of our culture back at us in a grotesque, exaggerated way--hence the well-known actors he chose (one reviewer argues that the movie would not have worked without this cast) and the decision to shoot on location with real life spring breakers--and so a perfect opportunity was taken to market the movie in a manner that complements what i think might be the movie’s purpose. I'll let you know after i watch it probably this weekend As a point of reference, watch the trailer for his directorial debut, Gummo from 1997, which was one of my favorite movies for many years, and i still hold dear to me (though his 2007 film Mister Lonely is more in line with what i look for in a movie these days, and it was also where i think he fully develops a unique film language). At any rate i’ve always considered the Gummo trailer to be one of the very best movie trailers; it’s like a short film in itself. As you watch it, keep in mind that this is the same writer/director--it might help you see the absurdity, curiosity, and appeal in the idea of a polarizing, uncompromising, singular director, the likes of Terrence Malick, Werner Herzog, and John Cassavetes, who have all heavily influenced him, making this movie Spring Breakers.

So, there’s this happening now: http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2013/03/steubenville-rapist-appeal/63290/