Monicker

I know. Have you ever been somewhere, like a cocktail party, and you are standing by the punch bowl keg or maybe the bathroom door because you hate your life and everyone in the room and you just want to die and you don't know what else to do because you're socially inept and riddled with anxiety, and then some asshole comes up to you and is like, "Hey, man, i know you," and in your mind you're thinking FUCK THIS SHIT, and you say, "Oh, cool," and then the two of you strike up the most painful small talk of your life, and you are clenching your entire body and straining your brain trying to think of different ways out of this hell, and, inevitably, at some point, the person will say either "Call me sometime," or "We should hang out sometime," or, worst of all, "We should totally work on something together sometime" and you somehow manage, with remarkable quickness, to respond with a very convincing, "Oh, totally, yeah, yeah, definitely, for sure, for sure" while nodding your head like a moron? Has this ever happened to you, Hellion, or anyone else in this hopeless thread?

I think people tend to forget that Lana Del Rey is incredibly polite. She also has her picture taken a lot and loves it.....

I didn't know Jay-Z was tied to GG Allin! Gosh, i've secretly always wanted to mention GG Allin on a Lana Del Rey forum.

Anyone get the impression that she’s a lot more religious than she leads on and that it may be a result of “cleaning up,” an AA/NA sort of thing? This one seems the most telling:

I absolutely love everything you've written here. This is one of my very favorite descriptions i've ever read of her. You really hit the nail on the head on a lot of points. Definitely a Beat and stream-of-consciousness thing going on, but, of course, filtered through her very singular lens. Great point about how it seems she's always writing, good or bad. That's a big thing about her, that idea that we get so many different levels of quality from her, the warts and all. I love that in artists. It's not too precious or overly calculated. She's not afraid to try out things and maybe fall flat. I love that she can have this amazing song sitting right next to something awful and kind of perplexing. And, as you suggested, there's a quickness, a spontaneity to it, that whole approach of just getting it out no matter what. Don't think about it too much, just get it out and it'll sort of figure itself out. That's a really big factor in her work, i think. And i think a lot of her charm lies there. And, yes, very much using her own codes, i think that's the first time i've heard anyone really nail that aspect of her artistry. There's also the repetition. This is what i've alluded to before as a kind of neurotic obsessiveness almost. I like the down to earth artist descriptor. And the paradoxes--shy and reserved, yet confident, assertive. Matches the wild variance of her musical and fashion styles, too. Complex person, artist, persona, the whole package.

Yeah, nicely put. Although i wouldn't say that it's not caring. More like not caring too much to the point where you've stifled your creation. Caring enough that you believe in what you're doing and seeing your vision through, but always letting your creation breathe a little and kind of take on a life of its own. Leave the life in there, and life is imperfect. You always hear a lot of artists talk about the creation guiding them rather than them guiding the creation. Like they're being taken along for a ride as this thing just flows out of them. Some people will even go as far as referring to it as feeling like they're a vessel for God's expression (Brian Wilson, for example, has said something similar before about creating Pet Sounds). I don't know that that sort of "divine" inspiration necessarily fits the character of Lana's work though just because she's so staunchly idiosyncratic that her stuff lacks the more "universal" appeal that is usually associated with works that are often described like this. There's something naive and awkward about her that i love and i think ties into this idea of the imperfect. Lana is all about a feeling. Imagine how terrible it'd be if she wasn't as resolute and confident, and she just allowed some record label dudes to iron out her quirks and sense of self, distilling her down to just a good singing voice, and stripping away all the nuances and weird little details that make her her. Or around ten forums (but only one good one)

You know, no one ever talks about how her eyes are wide like cherry pies. Barrie probably told her that too, while fuc-- making her a nice dinner.

I'd have to go through the whole album because i can't remember right now which songs it happens on or on how many songs (i don't listen to the album that much) but there are a few digital glitches throughout that sound like clicks or a tiny skip, they happen very fast. It sounds like maybe something that happened when the CD was ripped. I don't know, maybe i'm remembering more than there were and it only happens a couple of times, but next time i listen to the album straight through i'll write them down.

128 m4a. I doubt it, but just to ask, no one here has a copy of Sirens without those occasional, little digital glitches, right?

Don’t know if this is exactly thread worthy and how much discussion it can really spur, but i thought it was worth sharing. Maybe we can just use this thread to collect the more interesting (positive!) opinions on Lana from non-celebrities from unlikely places? God, that’s a mouthful (i kind of feel like LDR crusader Love Lana Like Life right now). Anyway, i’m always interested in seeing how things that i’m really into are evaluated by those from other corners of the universe. I just think it’s fascinating to get the perspective of people who aren’t so on the inside like us obsessed freaks. I think it’s easy sometimes to forget about the more "casual" listener’s views. The subject of Lana in particular is of interest to me in this context because it still puzzles me how she seems to have totally eluded a less pop-culture-oriented audience. So when i see someone who's coming from another part of the music world and they “get” it, the geek in me gets excited. Anyway, the point to all of this is that i was on the Beach Boys messageboard when, to my delight, i see the name Lana Del Rey suddenly pop up. What was interesting to me was to see BTD’s production described in a way i’ve never heard before. I'll use spoilers because this is getting long.

But i thought PrettyBaby was an avid Lanalysis reader? & stay pre$$ed @ not having the time 4 Lanalysis, evil...u r just a h8r!!!!

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I think Lanaboards is trying to hook me up with some Indonesian singles in my area? Hmm, i wonder if any of these Indonesian singles will end up being in the FRIENDZONE or in the FLIRTZONE. I'll let you guys know when i come back from my dates. P.S. I like how Lana Del Rey THE MUSE has an arrow perfectly pointing at a strand of her hair. P.P.S. Lana Del Rey THE MUSE sounds like a Love Lana Like Life song title, no?

It was intentionally condescending and i was including myself in the group being condescended to. Call me presumptuous, but i just heavily doubt that anyone here really knows about the complex web that makes up the various sects of the Illuminati throughout history. Even speaking very generally, what do we really know about it? Discussing it in the context of this forum is absurd. Can we really have a meaningful conversation about it? I would say not considering that the thread opened up with the OP asking us if we believe that Lana Del Rey is in the Illuminati (which, by the way, he offered no explanation whatsoever as to why he believes that she is). Re: Catholics and Masonry: Speaking only for myself here, look at the tense of what i wrote: "Lots of Masons were Catholics, by the way. A lot of that stuff was just white men getting together to drink and be assholes." You're talking about very recent Catholic doctrine. What is Masonry these days anyway? Widows of Masons gathered at the local library to play checkers? A compass and the letter G obscured on the facade of the theater in the center of town? EDIT: I just saw your edit and you're right--18th Century. That's what i meant, 1700s...dyslexia of sorts

By the way, lest my first post gets misunderstood, i was including myself in that--i don’t know shit about the Illuminati. My point was that, being that it is a rich culture and huge area of study that spans centuries, covering religion, government and politics, social class, war, history, etc. i sincerely doubt anyone here truly knows much about the actual Illuminati--not "the Illuminati" as it’s understood today in popular culture/conspiracy theorist circles--to "speculate" on anything about it. This thread just screams of trolling to me and there’s been an overwhelming amount of this shit around here lately. I’m sure i’m not the only one who’s tired of it.

You’re right, i spoke too soon. I should have known that Lana Del Rey fans who, like, once watched a video on YouTube about Rihanna with the word Illuminati in the title, or heard something about something from someone who knows someone, would be well informed on various secret 16th Century Bavarian organizations. Hey, maybe litewave will come into this thread and shut me up with the ultimate analysis of Lana Del Rey, which ties her to a rich lineage of Bavarian esotericists. Lots of Masons were Catholics, by the way. A lot of that stuff was just white men getting together to drink and be assholes.

Nobody here even knows what the Illuminati is.

But...isn't it all about what baby wants? Like, when baby wants McDonald's, baby should get McDonald's. And when baby wants Lizzi del Ray to do something, Lizzi should do what baby wants. Is this not the case? I am so such confusedest. Whare am i? You are making the walls of my reality tunnel come crumbling down.

Man, i really dislike these photos

Wow, there probably is one. I mean, there has to be, right? Let's go join. And we'll recruit people over there to come over here. CROSS-GENERATIONAL CROSS-POLLINATION.

What is it, a simulacrum of the ninth dimension? Maybe the hardcore fans thinking that it's real and that it's an album is part of that whole cult thing that ataraxia is always talking about .

I cannot believe how fixated the media (and the public) is on appearances and superficialities, and how "news" is totally created when there isn't any.

I think amidst the speculation in this thread, one thing is certain: The Kick Drums can suck Rocky's dick, bruh. In all caps, of course.

Even though i don't care at all for Burning Desire, i would totally get behind an LDR jailbreak video. That would be amazing. 1. I think what she meant in that interview is that the label (and even her team of writers/producers) felt weird about her simply recording the song. I don't think she was referring to its release as a single. She also mentioned that once she started working on the song, people changed their minds about it. And at this point it's very clear now that the song has "hit potential." 2. US radio doesn't play her music anyway, regardless of explicit language.

I'm not necessarily talking about the amount of equipment but the equipment itself (like, what are those little $100 shitty premaps even doing there?) and the fact that they're going into a Macbook, unless there's a board sitting right where the pictures are taken from, but i don't think so because look where the engineer's chair is set up and where the monitors are positioned (although that part makes no sense to me). But even more importantly is the room itself. Everything about this just looks like a little "project studio." It's definitely not a room for tracking--you obviously don't track in a room with shit hanging on the walls, gaudy lamps, and a big leather couch, haa. And look at those workstation keyboards, those seem to me like typical home/project kind of gear. I don't know that i'd call anything on BTD and Paradise amazing sounding from an engineering standpoint High fidelity and completely adequate for a big, major release, yes. But very by the book, lacking character kind of recordings. But i think you're right that they're recording ideas/sketches for some other, bigger project, perhaps, as you suggested, demoing something for those films she's mentioned. They are for sure recording though, it's not just a mock promo set-up.