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Do it. Be kind to it, too. Give it a good chance. You may have to warm up to it, but it is so rewarding. Just let is smash you over the head. And prepare to feel like a spear is being driven through your chest and ripping you open. And then, it’s beautiful, the last two songs are these little joyous strolls through the park. It’s so nice that she finally finds happiness in the end after that brutal journey. And it refutes the (i think totally stupid) argument that an artist needs to be sad and tortured to create their best work. In fact, she has said multiple times that she doesn’t like to/can’t make music when she is feeling depressed. That’s how i am too. Oh, absolutely, me too. Ha, i've never been able to get into his singing, thus i can't get into Meaningless. But his film scores for Punch-Drunk Love, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, and I Heart Huckabees are amongst my very favorite music in recent years. I have the complete scores for P-DL and ESofSM if anyone wants them.

You should remind your sister that Amy was trying to be Ronnie Spector This was one of those things where the truth took a long time to form because her fans didn't want to accept that, as amazing as the original sessions for Extraordinary Machine are, she wasn't happy with them. People love to pit the "Artist" against the big, bad record company and turn everything into a matter of artistry vs. business, but that's not what was going on at all with this situation (and i think a lot of her fans still don't want to accept the truth). She didn't feel the music/sound/direction was her (which i sensed from the very first listen--that record has Jon Brion's thumbprint all over it) because, as she admitted later, she didn't know what she wanted. She just knew that when the sessions were over what turned out wasn't what she wanted. It's even well known that she didn't even really feel like making the record and that Jon Brion had to sort of push her to do it. It wasn't until she stepped away from it for a while that she finally got a clear picture of what she wanted, so she herself chose to go in another direction with a different producer. I feel like i'm in the minority in that i actually like both versions. I mean, the Elizondo version doesn't hold a candle to Jon Brion's production, but i still think it's really solid and quite inventive in its own right. I'm thankful we have both, such radically different sounding versions of the same album. There are a few lines throughout the record where it sounds like her guts are churning. You can just see the veins in her forehead bulging as you listen. It's really great. And gosh, there are few songs i've ever heard that are as angry and bitter and stinging as Regret. "I ran out of white dove feathers to soak up the hot piss that comes through your mouth every time you address me." What a fucking line. Sorry 4 hijacking this thread.

This is the best post in the short history of this forum.

As much as i absolutely adore the AKA record and consider it one of my recent favorites, i think that Jon Brion's producing and arranging on the original, unreleased version of Fiona Apple's Extraordinary Machine blows Kahne's producing and arranging on AKA out of the water. That's not a slight on Kahne (who really is very good), but rather a comment on how utterly brilliant Jon Brion's work is on Extraordinary Machine. That is masterful record production and pop music arranging, a (unfinished and unreleased!) record that can stand up to any of the classics in the annals of pop/rock records, i think. That is not hyperbole. Also, The Idler Wheel, which is self-produced with Charley Drayton, ain't too shabby. That is a fucking amazing sounding record too, but such a drastically different thing from both EM and AKA, going in a totally different direction. Like i said, i really, really love AKA, but there's still just a smidge too much gloss on it for my personal tastes. I just think these two Fiona records are on another level entirely. EDIT: I should mention though that, vocally, i do much prefer Lizzy over Fiona. Lizzy is so very inventive with her voice and vocals and her harmonies/backing vocals and all the layering she does. Not to mention how many different characters her singing has. And her range! I think she really understands the human voice as an instrument like few people do. Also, Sitar, as much as you love the rawness and mood of Get Drunk, you really should check out The Idler Wheel if you haven’t already. That goes too for everyone who’s been raving about Noir. I mean, The Idler Wheel is a gaping wound. It's also one of the angriest records.

Hey, the game plan was already established. Evil was supposed to upload a still from the five seconds he showed of his face in the tinychat the day of his reydio show. Then i proposed that Maddy and TPD follow, and that i would then go. None of it has happened yet, so... Oh man, but i would love to see what Hellion looks like.

Oh yeah, you're right. It's weird, the little clip at the beginning sounds like it's at a different pitch (maybe it is or maybe it's a mind trick). That was really throwing me off. I don't know why it has always sounded like a totally different song to me, haa. Little insignificant mystery solved.

^ Logic would dictate that, but i don't think that's what's playing. Can you tell me exactly what point in the song (down to the second) you think is playing at the beginning? The only reason i'm so curious about this is that i think it's a song that hasn't leaked yet. Although it's very possible that i'm just having a brain fart. Either way though, i really don't think it's this version of DMD.

Say, this thread is working out nicely, huh? Better than i thought it would, honestly. Here's a question that has been bugging me forever: What song (of hers?) is she listening to at the very beginning of the second DMD video?? It doesn’t sound like anything i’ve heard before. Can anyone tell? It's one second, if even that. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SGoE3vUjDY Also, on a tangential note that has nothing to do with anything in particular but has been on my mind for the past year since having gotten into LDR , does anyone else sense a strong Harmony Korine sensibility in the Lizzy universe? Is anyone here familiar with him?

Yeah, she's talking about David Lee Roth in Mermaid Motel (she also mentions Van Halen and heavy metal hour on TV in the preceding line). Oh my god, i am now thinking of David Lee Roth as assistant director on the set of Ride and he's being all smarmy and trying to grab a girl's ass and and everyone on set just wants to jump ship.

The "synth choir" keyboard setting? There's no one else singing lyrics anywhere on the song. Oh wait, never mind, i see what you're talking about now. Yeah, there is a boi singin' along with Lizzi.

? I honestly don't know what's going on here, whether you're joking or not, or how to read this. To be completely clear, i don't feel even the slightest hint of anything that would suggest disliking you or anything about you (and that also goes for anyone else on the forum) and i'm not sure why you might think i do. Maybe you're joking and i just don't know how to read jokes lately? Perhaps this is my cue to alter the way i write on here. If you're serious, i'm sorry you think this, and if you're joking then i'm sorry i can't discern a joke. Either way, i feel sad about this right now.

Neal, i hope you don't take most of what i say seriously. You sound a little irked in your reply, but i hope you're not and that i'm just misreading you. Happy holidays, buddy. I do mean that.

Everyone knows that already. Does it matter? No, no it doesn’t

When i watch these clips and look at these pictures and think about this performance, i get a very similar feeling to what i experience the few times in my life where, for whatever reason, i've had no other choice but to go to Guitar Center, and all i need is to buy a cable or an adapter, and i'm in there and it's loud and oppressive and depressing, and there are all these meatheads packed together under one roof, trying out different guitars, playing shitty riffs, and i hate existence and my brain is eating itself and there's just a bad taste in the air, and i just want to get to the counter so that i can pay for my cable and get out of there and i feel so desperate, and my god, why is this happening, why am i here, what is going on?

No idea what you're talking about again... A tautology is a tautology. Just show me yer face, Neal, COME ON. There is a lot in a face, so, so much. Don't downplay the significance of the face. Just ask Guy Fawkes. I still don't know why you call me Mr. Lovelace. Is it because of Linda Lovelace? I also still don't know what your acronyms like ANTS mean. I've never watched Sailor Moon. But i have a friend who was obsessed with it in the '90s. This friend of mine is still a virgin.

That is Lizzy's younger sister, Caroline "Chuck" Grant. She's mine, stay away.

Neal, i need to know what you really look like.

Just realized a way to test this out. Go to youtube and start typing Lana Del Rey with any of the Elizabeth C. Grant titles that are commonly mistaken as Lana titles (Epiphany, Little Angel, Break The Cycle, Jonah, Lullabye) and you will see that auto complete will come on for all of them. So i think it also happens for common searches. What are the chances that someone has fake videos for all of the ECG song titles, set on private, ready for when these songs never leak?

Happened to a friend of mine. The relations weren't with the priest, but the priest did the blaming (on her). Yay, humans.

I don't know about that, are you sure? I thought the auto complete also kicks in when a common search is being typed, so it could simply mean that a lot of people have searched for that title (which they saw elsewhere on the internetz). But, i don't know, i'm not certain.

I've been meaning to ask you this the few times you've said this on the forum--are you quoting Stephanie Tanner from Full House?

The forum got noticeably worse when that sissy character started posting. I wouldn't be surprised if s/he is behind everything terrible that has happened since. Fuck everything.

Change the title of this thread, Billy. Whoa.

Which apparently you haven't read because: Come on, Sitar, i expected more from you. Aren't you an aspiring writer?

You were obviously joking, but that's not the only reason people drink. Kids who drink and actually become alcoholics as children (it's not terribly uncommon) learn that behavior (from parents, siblings, and peers) and are often pressured/coerced into it.