evilentity 13,344 Posted September 7, 2012 You can see how this can be problematic. It can send the wrong message to girls and her young fans Oh, I forgot to respond to this in my first post in this topic. I've never bought this argument about any celebrity unless they portray themselves as a role model. I'm with Charles Barkley on this one: 2 Quote Stalking you has sorta become like my occupation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hello Heaven 1,578 Posted September 7, 2012 I'm not usually a fan of nude shoots but these are just gorgeous. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MissDaytona Posted September 7, 2012 Oh, I forgot to respond to this in my first post in this topic. I've never bought this argument about any celebrity unless they portray themselves as a role model. I'm with Charles Barkley on this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8vh2MwXZ6o True, but young teens are really impressionable. I just hope people don't try to emulate the things Lana talks about in her lyrics or try to be just like her. I feel like quoting Fiona Apple's VMA speech haha 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Chloe Posted September 7, 2012 Lana's beautiful in this shoot, but that's it. It's pretty objectifying and if I were her I'd find it degrading.. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Monicker 3,035 Posted September 7, 2012 @TrailerParkDoll (forum user MissDaytona I believe?) posted this link on Twitter, which I think really says it all. Ugh, that is so upsetting, and yeah, that's what i'm talking about. Great juxtaposition of pictures in that link that totally exposes GQ's aforementioned bullshit. This is so blatant and stereotypical it almost, almost seems like satire. Is it really the year 2012? 0 Quote "The limits of my language mean the limits of my world." -Wittgenstein Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mileena 2,691 Posted September 7, 2012 True, but young teens are really impressionable. I just hope people don't try to emulate the things Lana talks about in her lyrics or try to be just like her. I feel like quoting Fiona Apple's VMA speech haha But it's down to those young teen's parents/guardians to tell them what's right and what's wrong. I'm sorry, but if someone tries to copy anyone at all in terms of their attitudes or things they do or w/e then they're dumb. Teenager or not. I'm 14, and I don't try and be like Lana (I just steal her dress styles every now and again ). 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HunterAshlyn 686 Posted September 7, 2012 True, but young teens are really impressionable. I just hope people don't try to emulate the things Lana talks about in her lyrics or try to be just like her. I feel like quoting Fiona Apple's VMA speech haha I'm confused. Are you worried about lana's lyrics? Or these pictures? They communicate the same essential message, which she even blatantly states in the interview saying, quite bluntly, "there's nothing ironic about it." And Lana's never really been marketed purposefully to a young audience, i don think. Also, these pictures don't communicate anything new that lana hasn't already said in her music. I'm confused about what your concerned about now, when this has been part of her message from the beginning? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HunterAshlyn 686 Posted September 7, 2012 Ugh, that is so upsetting, and yeah, that's what i'm talking about. Great juxtaposition of pictures in that link that totally exposes GQ's aforementioned bullshit. This is so blatant and stereotypical it almost, almost seems like satire. Is it really the year 2012? This is pretty sad, tho. I do have to agree. Hopefully one day I'll be on the cover of GQ- NUDE- with clothed women all around me. Wouldn't that be something? 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MissDaytona Posted September 7, 2012 But it's down to those young teen's parents/guardians to tell them what's right and what's wrong. I'm sorry, but if someone tries to copy anyone at all in terms of their attitudes or things they do or w/e then they're dumb. Teenager or not. I'm 14, and I don't try and be like Lana (I just steal her dress styles every now and again ). I'm confused. Are you worried about lana's lyrics? Or these pictures? They communicate the same essential message, which she even blatantly states in the interview saying, quite bluntly, "there's nothing ironic about it." And Lana's never really been marketed purposefully to a young audience, i don think. Also, these pictures don't communicate anything new that lana hasn't already said in her music. I'm confused about what your concerned about now, when this has been part of her message from the beginning? Sigh.. no offense, but I'm guessing neither of you are women or understand how degrading the GQ thing is. As far as her Lyrics and her interview- I just think it can be easily misconstrued...which isn't her responsibility, but it is something to think about 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MissDaytona Posted September 7, 2012 This is pretty sad, tho. I do have to agree. Hopefully one day I'll be on the cover of GQ- NUDE- with clothed women all around me. Wouldn't that be something? hahaha! or even ladies home journal ~8) 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Chloe Posted September 7, 2012 Lana may be beautiful, but at the end of the day she's in a magazine (a mens edition), wearing no clothes, being groped by a man, and touching herself. I'm sorry but it's sad if that's what the world has come to.. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mileena 2,691 Posted September 7, 2012 Sigh.. no offense, but I'm guessing neither of you are women or understand how degrading the GQ thing is. As far as her Lyrics and her interview- I just think it can be easily misconstrued...which isn't her responsibility, but it is something to think about She's a celebrity, what does she expect? What do her fans expect? I am a woman, a lesbian in fact. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MissDaytona Posted September 7, 2012 She's a celebrity, what does she expect? What do her fans expect? I am a woman, a lesbian in fact. IDK all I can say is read this http://www.missrepresentation.org/notbuyingit/notbuyingit-gqs-woman-of-the-year-cover/ but we all have different opinions and that's ok! 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Chloe Posted September 7, 2012 She's a celebrity, what does she expect? What do her fans expect? I am a woman, a lesbian in fact. We expect Lana to have some dignity. If she's happy it's beside the point. Dignified women don't let creative directors grope them in a mens magazine. I'm not hating on Lana or whatever, I just think it's degrading. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mileena 2,691 Posted September 7, 2012 IDK all I can say is read this http://www.missrepre...the-year-cover/ but we all have different opinions and that's ok! Fair enough, I've never even seen GQ magazine before - I have no interest in any magazine. But still, as long as Lana's okay, I'm okay 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mileena 2,691 Posted September 7, 2012 We expect Lana to have some dignity. If she's happy it's beside the point. Dignified women don't let creative directors grope them in a mens magazine. I'm not hating on Lana or whatever, I just think it's degrading. She was topless on the BTD single album cover, so she's never had any dignity if that's the case. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MissDaytona Posted September 7, 2012 Personally, I have no problem w/ nudity, it's just the way and means it was presented 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mileena 2,691 Posted September 7, 2012 Personally, I have no problem w/ nudity, it's just the way and means it was presented I can honestly see it from your point of view, I personally love nudity - nude beaches are totally my thing haha. But I do see what you mean about the men being in elaborate suits and such beforehand. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Chloe Posted September 7, 2012 She was topless on the BTD single album cover, so she's never had any dignity if that's the case. I don't like the Born to Die cover either. I'm not being prude or anything, I just think it's degrading to get to the point where you'd agree to pose nude, touch yourself, and let someone grope you in a mens magazine. She can do what she wants, but if I were her (which I'm obviously not), I wouldn't do it. The whole presentation of the shoot is unsettling.. I'll support her whatever she does.. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mileena 2,691 Posted September 7, 2012 I don't like the Born to Die cover either. I'm not being prude or anything, I just think it's degrading to get to the point where you'd agree to pose nude, touch yourself, and let someone grope you in a mens magazine. She can do what she wants, but if I were her (which I'm obviously not), I wouldn't do it. I'll support her whatever she does.. That's true though, I mean masturbating? Not cool in my books. And I do agree with you as well. But as I've mentioned before, I do love nudity so I'll naturally have a different opinion. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
