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Hello Twin Peaks. Easily one of her very best songs. MORE HARPSICHORD, ELIZABETH, PLEASE.

I was just listening to this song while making a sandwich. Gosh, it’s such a good song. It’s so tender and heartbreaking. It’s an especially great song for nighttime. I love the loose quality it has, how it sounds like it was just a quick and spontaneous thing, recorded one night in a sudden flash of inspiration, like it just needed to come out. I love how understated but unique the backing track is with that incongruous drum machine and the little weird noises. I wouldn’t change a thing about it. 
 
These lyrics, i think, are some of her most heartfelt. It’s just chock-full of such simple yet powerful and poignant lines that i think a lot of people can relate to. I especially love the line “the panic and the fear.” Anyone who suffers from panic attacks knows that it’s one of the worst feelings in the world. 
 
Doesn’t the chorus sound like something you’ve heard before in another life? That melody seems to perfectly capture the song’s sentiments, that sense of feeling trapped and that realization that you have to do something, make some sort of change in your life. Your dead-end relationship has sort of become your comfort zone. You think you can change the relationship or even the other person, but you know you’re just lying to yourself. 
 
Her falsetto in this song has a strange quality to it, it’s almost hysterical. And at the end when she abruptly comes out of it back into her lower register (as she’s repeating that she’s done being afraid), it makes me think of, like, when you’ve been crying for hours and you just suddenly snap out of it because you just physically cannot cry anymore.  
 
What a fucking song.

I just saw this mentioned in a status and started to watch the video out of curiosity, but i couldn't watch more than a minute and a half of it. Jesus.

I just saw this mentioned in a status and started to watch the video out of curiosity, but i couldn't watch more than a minute and a half of it. Jesus.

I just saw this mentioned in a status and started to watch the video out of curiosity, but i couldn't watch more than a minute and a half of it. Jesus.

Maybe she got paid 100 bucks to let men with a foot fetish rub her feet?
 
Or to pee on men?
 
Or to be photographed nude?
 
Or to masturbate or have sex with her boyfriend(s) in front of men in motel rooms? Or for wealthy businessmen in nice hotels?
 
Or to abuse and humiliate masochists?
 
Or to stand at an intersection wearing a sign for a local business?
 
Or hand out flyers?
 
:creepy:

How do you have these? Are you friends with her? Is that it? I want 2 B fRiEndZ with her

I can't believe i didn't realize sooner that the guy's count-in at the beginning of the demo is also on the record. Which is weird because the guitar from the demo is not on the record and neither is her vocal take. I'm guessing the demo was used as a scratch track to program the beat or something, but she liked his voice/counting enough to keep it in? I wonder who the guy is. 

WHAT THIS THREAD IS FOR:
 
General and fact-based Lana-related questions that are easily answered and not intended for their own discussion.
 
Examples:
 
“Which interview was it where Lana mentioned being a fan of David Lynch?"
"What performance was it where Lizzy did the cover of The Happiest Girl In The Whole U.S.A.?"
“What’s Lana’s brother’s name?”
“What was the name of that boarding school that Lana attended?”
 
You know, stuff like that.
 
 
 
WHAT THIS THREAD IS NOT FOR:
 
--Any questions about specific discussion topics that already have a home somewhere on the forum, such as individual songs in the Lyrics section, past photo shoots in the Gallery, unreleased/demo songs in the Audio section. Questions pertaining to specific subjects such as these can still be directed to those existing threads.
 
--Discussion type of questions that are a matter of opinion. Eg: “Who do you prefer, Lana or Lizzy?" or “What do you think would happen if Lana went on SNL again?” Those are opinion-based topics for on-going discussion that are not appropriate for this thread, and are better suited for their own thread.
 
***Before you ask your question, have a look here at the thread dedicated to rumors and debunked myths about Lana Del Rey, as the answer to your question might very well already be there.

Shall we invite Pat over to this thread for some insight? I bet she'd love to comment. Pull up a chair, Pat, please. 
 
I bet Rob & Chuck regularly rock the fuck out on 4 hand piano, tearing up the living room and setting it on fire, while Lana is off in a corner being all doom & gloom and giving Momma Grant headache after headache in typical oldest child fashion. Lil brat Lizzy. NO WONDER U WERE SENT 2 BOARDING SKOOL

I have yet to see one single photo of her not wearing makeup. Y'all know what makeup looks like, no?

I was finally able to read this all for the first time. My head is kind of spinning. 
 
God, this person wrote a lot and was very fiery. I don’t know that that sort of zeal can be faked. Or more specifically, when someone sounds that passionate about supposed events, chances are they’re not making things up, or at least not entirely. She is also almost neurotically specific and repetitive about locations and names. It sounds like a person who was, in some way, wronged or saw, firsthand, questionable behavior toward others that she is strongly opposed to, and wants the people responsible to be held accountable.
 
But then that weird, endless tirade about how music today is corrupting the youth, how the record industry should take responsibility for all problems in society, that they are mostly responsible for crime, pedophilia, rape, and violence against women, all the while using words like evil and so many CAPS. Dude......wut? I really wish people who make these sort of claims would realize that these things have been around since the beginning of humanity.
 
She sounds like someone who's a little "off." Which i hate to say because if she and others really were sexually and mentally abused, there’s nothing worse than dismissing a person as hysterical and discrediting their account. Plus, trauma can make people sound crazy    Even just her writing style and the way she is so incredibly repetitive comes off as someone who has had trauma. Also, based on her language, it seems she had already done a good amount of talking to lawyers.
 
The comments under hers piss me off so much, and are so typical of the lowest lows of the internet. I love when people get angry at someone with a mental illness (if she is indeed mentally ill), and call them a BITCH. Ugh, i hate people. One single person (the last comment) responded in a civil manner and refrained entirely from insults. 
  If this stuff really did happen, i really hope that she and others are okay and that the guilty parties are dealt with accordingly. I don't know, i feel like something probably happened here. Why put so much energy into accusing specific people? Those people must have done something, but the question is what exactly and how severe was it. 
 
Very puzzling piece of the puzzle. My head hurts and i feel depressed now. 

Shall we invite Pat over to this thread for some insight? I bet she'd love to comment. Pull up a chair, Pat, please. 
 
I bet Rob & Chuck regularly rock the fuck out on 4 hand piano, tearing up the living room and setting it on fire, while Lana is off in a corner being all doom & gloom and giving Momma Grant headache after headache in typical oldest child fashion. Lil brat Lizzy. NO WONDER U WERE SENT 2 BOARDING SKOOL

WHAT THIS THREAD IS FOR:
 
General and fact-based Lana-related questions that are easily answered and not intended for their own discussion.
 
Examples:
 
“Which interview was it where Lana mentioned being a fan of David Lynch?"
"What performance was it where Lizzy did the cover of The Happiest Girl In The Whole U.S.A.?"
“What’s Lana’s brother’s name?”
“What was the name of that boarding school that Lana attended?”
 
You know, stuff like that.
 
 
 
WHAT THIS THREAD IS NOT FOR:
 
--Any questions about specific discussion topics that already have a home somewhere on the forum, such as individual songs in the Lyrics section, past photo shoots in the Gallery, unreleased/demo songs in the Audio section. Questions pertaining to specific subjects such as these can still be directed to those existing threads.
 
--Discussion type of questions that are a matter of opinion. Eg: “Who do you prefer, Lana or Lizzy?" or “What do you think would happen if Lana went on SNL again?” Those are opinion-based topics for on-going discussion that are not appropriate for this thread, and are better suited for their own thread.
 
***Before you ask your question, have a look here at the thread dedicated to rumors and debunked myths about Lana Del Rey, as the answer to your question might very well already be there.

I was just listening to this song while making a sandwich. Gosh, it’s such a good song. It’s so tender and heartbreaking. It’s an especially great song for nighttime. I love the loose quality it has, how it sounds like it was just a quick and spontaneous thing, recorded one night in a sudden flash of inspiration, like it just needed to come out. I love how understated but unique the backing track is with that incongruous drum machine and the little weird noises. I wouldn’t change a thing about it. 
 
These lyrics, i think, are some of her most heartfelt. It’s just chock-full of such simple yet powerful and poignant lines that i think a lot of people can relate to. I especially love the line “the panic and the fear.” Anyone who suffers from panic attacks knows that it’s one of the worst feelings in the world. 
 
Doesn’t the chorus sound like something you’ve heard before in another life? That melody seems to perfectly capture the song’s sentiments, that sense of feeling trapped and that realization that you have to do something, make some sort of change in your life. Your dead-end relationship has sort of become your comfort zone. You think you can change the relationship or even the other person, but you know you’re just lying to yourself. 
 
Her falsetto in this song has a strange quality to it, it’s almost hysterical. And at the end when she abruptly comes out of it back into her lower register (as she’s repeating that she’s done being afraid), it makes me think of, like, when you’ve been crying for hours and you just suddenly snap out of it because you just physically cannot cry anymore.  
 
What a fucking song.

LOL, good one. 

Just hold on a second, he'll be in here shortly to answer this question. 

I'm sorry. That's very bleak. But not too long before things change, so hang tight.

Literally? What did they say about it, if you don't mind me asking?

I love Radio, especially the demo, which is the version i will talk about. That opening is like an explosion of Skittles shooting up into the sky--that silly fake harp, the digital finger snaps, that bass drum that drops, and  the drone that sounds like you’re warping through a happy wormhole--and you just know that the next three and a half minutes are going to be blissful. I think the album version really dropped the ball by changing the way the songs starts. Anyway, this recording just has such a perfect feel, something that i think is hard to capture in songs, but once you have it, it’s like you can do no wrong with a song. It’s like if the song was half a BPM different or one instrument was mixed a tiny bit too loud or too low, it might all come crumbling down. But fret not, because it’s perfect. That chorus is pure gold. It’s so airy and light, that must be the music that plays when you’re skipping on clouds. The double tracked vocals are like an auditory candy bar. And the vocoder is amazing, let’s throw a fucking vocoder on here and have it panning back and forth, Lizzy, this song needs to be even more perfect. I love the little cheap sounding 8th note hi-hat rhythm throughout the song--it sounds like something a kid sitting in their bedroom would have playing from their battery powered Casio in 1991, trying to make a great song. And, finally, those counter melodies on the synth during the last chorus are like flying into the sunshine. But, like ataraxia mentioned, there is an underlying sadness that pokes through a little, and that is one of my favorite qualities in pop music. 
 
I still like the album version (which is built around the basic tracks of the demo) but you-know-who fiddled around with it too much and, i think, lost some of that feel from the demo. Still though, probably his least offensive reworking.
 
 
 
 
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I can agree with that to an extent even though i'm very wary of binaries, especially as absolutes, or absolutes of any kind, really. We're on the same page with the piano analogy, but not for the same reason that i imagined was your intent in making the analogy: the piano and its black & white keys are a human construction--not rooted in a natural phenomenon--much like the social construct of reducing being down to these polarizing masculine/feminine "fundamentals." BTW, the harpsichord and some fortepianos, which both predate the pianoforte, have the black/white key scheme inverted.
 
 
 
What i was referring to is bolded in the following:
 
 
Also, a lot of this soul/ego duality is sexist and too reductionist and essentialist. Why should these ontological attributes have to be tied to gender? Does that have any real value? Is it not dismissive of our complexities and ambiguities? I mean, integrative = feminine and separatist = masculine? I find that rather insulting. What do those qualities really have to do with the socially constructed ways in which men and women have been segregated throughout history? And what about those who don't fit into a gender binary? I just don't get why this stuff has to be described in terms of a male/female dichotomy.

 
 
P.S. I do enjoy reading your posts, so i hope you don't take any of this "the wrong way."

I see a lot of the traps of binary thinking (ontology is more complex than a set of binaries, no?) in these interpretations, along with complementarianism, social constructs passing off as "truths," dogma and moralism. Also, don't you think we should be moving away from the kind of language that uses he/him/his to represent all peoples?

It's "you're rollin'," an indication to her that they're recording and that she can start. It's an engineer's saying that originates from "tape is rolling."  

Evil, TPD, Sam Gho, et al. are probably on the right track regarding the Alabama sojourn, but i had a passing thought and just wanted to throw out another possibility just for the hell of it. It's the sort of little detail that often gets overlooked because it's either so obvious or just plain silly: Could it be that she listed Alabama...don't laugh...as a state of mind of sorts? What i mean is maybe it was just a fantasy she had, perhaps she romanticized the south, and she wanted to make her own narrative more appealing, so she fancied herself living in Alabama to give her persona a certain image, to add to this character/art project she was creating. God knows how many false locations i listed on my MySpace music profile throughout the years...
 
Is Alabama mentioned anywhere else in relation to her past, or did the Alabama talk all come from MySpace? I guess i should have asked that question first. Disregard this if it sounds stupid and implausible. Admittedly, i know little about this sort of stuff.

Say, this thread is working out nicely, huh? Better than i thought it would, honestly.
 
Here's a question that has been bugging me forever: What song (of hers?) is she listening to at the very beginning of the second DMD video?? It doesn’t sound like anything i’ve heard before. Can anyone tell? It's one second, if even that.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SGoE3vUjDY
 
Also, on a tangential note that has nothing to do with anything in particular but has been on my mind for the past year since having gotten into LDR , does anyone else sense a strong Harmony Korine sensibility in the Lizzy universe? Is anyone here familiar with him?