The Baldoni vs Lively case

[jaesana 4,181]

I have had total whiplash on this case

 

My TikTok FYP was bombarded with anti-Blake Lively … propaganda? 😭 like idk how else to describe it  … for like a month. So I was like ok damn she’s kind of a diva and doesn’t take DV seriously

 

Then when her accusations came against baldoni I was like oh I fell for the amber heard thing where I jumped on the anti-woman train, I gotta be more mindful of that, he’s clearly at fault  

 

now with all this new information I’m back to feeling weird about Blake… but this time with the additional dislike for Ryan Reynolds

 

edit: I mention the first part because it is critical to Blake’s complaint, that she was not only SH but that there was an entire propaganda machine that intended to ruin her reputation so that she couldn’t speak out, or that no one would believe her if she did 

[Mer 64,012]

Mind you this case is about sexual harassment and not who has the "best vibes" or gives the best interviews

[jaesana 4,181]

7 hours ago, Mer said:

This is the creepiest fucking thing I’ve ever heard lmao. How does a 6 minute long voice memo in a sultry voice, with numerous apologies, prove that Blake wasn’t sexually harassed by this man? 

And it’s the fact that it would have technically been her boss sending her these voice memos 

 

she may have been sending some back, but he was the director. He had the power in this situation 

 

imaging my boss exchanging these memos with me makes my skin crawl 

[Rorman Nockwell 57,289]

1 hour ago, jaesana said:

And it’s the fact that it would have technically been her boss sending her these voice memos 

 

she may have been sending some back, but he was the director. He had the power in this situation 

 

imaging my boss exchanging these memos with me makes my skin crawl 

Yeah I honestly don't know what he was trying to achieve by releasing this latest one

It's such a convenient one-sided 6-minute conversation he's having. Also - he states very clearly that he doesn't like voice memos or texts, so why is he sending one that's 6 minutes long to her in the middle of the fucking night? I mean that's not a crime, but it's also like ... why didn't he just say, "hey I'll talk to you tomorrow/can you call me/I'll call you back" or something? They sounded like they were still on speaking terms at the time of this voice memo? Very few people are gonna pick up at 2am ...

[Ultra Violet 19,183]

6 hours ago, shadesofblue said:

I don’t understand what this voice memo is trying to prove other than he sounds annoying. This doesn’t prove he didn’t sexually harass her

This

Proof of a "good relationship" doesn't mean SH or even SA isn't possible.

Here i go oversharing again but

Spoiler

I had a good relationship with the boss who SH me. To the outside it looked like we were good, even like we were close (i look back at that and feel so gross tho ew).  Because besides the 5 instances where he said something completely disgusting and unprofessional to me/about me, we did get along very well.

He even supported me in reporting an instance where a group of tradesmen working on our building were catcalling me. So yeah. Sexual Harassers can indeed look like valiant pro-women, progressive people.

 

[Candy Necklace 8,814]

I really don’t think this case is as black and white as most people are painting it out to be. When Blake Lively made her initial claims I was 100% on her side but then some things started coming out and it made me question some things a little bit. I’m not saying I believe Justin Baldoni because he’s throwing so much shit out there to clear his name and most of it is making him look bad as well.

 

We should give Blake the benefit of the doubt, and if this actually goes to court, we can go from there.

[Ultra Violet 19,183]

I finally listened to the entirety of that 6:30 minute voice message.

I do think Justin was 100% genuine but there were two parts that would have made me feel uncomfortable, knowing Blake's situation. When he says "share creative juices together... I know that sounds terrible" I laughed because its funny, but also gross but I don't believe he purposely meant to slip in an adult joke or anything. He didn't sound creepy at that point to me, but that could definitely have added to her feeling uncomfortable which i would understand.

1. When he said "theres nothing more exciting to me, that i get to work with Blake Lively and have her- ALL of her. You know, that's what I want". Okay that point starts to make me feel uncomfortable because he sounds like a guy who genuinely does want to connect with people deeply and emotionally, but if the other person is actually not into it (and Blake was not), then it can sound creepy and 'too much'. It's pretty clear to me that Justin wants deep personal connections and Blake just wants to talk and laugh in relationships. So Blake probably looks back at their interactions and feels it was too much and anything with sexual connotations would therefore feel especially weird. I am not saying any of this one "piece of (non) evidence" "proves" either side  but I think it just says something about their personality differences and not being on the same page, which can lead to all sorts of awkwardness.

3. "You probably got kids all over you and a baby on your boob" I don't need to explain how that's weird coming from anyone.