Unpopular Lana Opinions

[fl0r1dakil0s 21,798]

2 minutes ago, Dark Angel said:

even if all about ethel is about ethel cain i honestly highly doubt she knows she's trans in the first place lol

 

exactly    like lana isn't tapped in like that.. when she says she's in touch with "the pulse" of pop culture she just means CNN and TMZ

[baddisease 18,193]

8 minutes ago, fl0r1dakil0s said:

 

ohh please throw ur concern in the garbage bae 😭 i promise there is no transphobia in any of lana's unleaked songs (at least the ones i've personally heard - i do know for a fact that she has said nothing transphobic about ethel cain in any song that is hypothetically about her) (not that i think a mention of a name in a song is enough to claim that the entire song is about that person - it could have been metaphorical tbh or an example of a larger theme lana was getting at)

 

How do you know that? Have you heard it? (I'm being serious, have you heard it?) Also everywhere I've read about that song (here, Reddit, Facebook, Discord, elsewhere), they've said it's about her.

[taco truck 33,819]

I don’t want a “witchy” album from Lana ngl 

[baddisease 18,193]

1 minute ago, taco truck said:

I don’t want a “witchy” album from Lana ngl 

 

I still want a disco album. 

[bluechemtrails 27,934]

39 minutes ago, Dark Angel said:

even if all about ethel is about ethel cain i honestly highly doubt she even knows she's trans in the first place lol

almost impossible that Jack D. didn't speak about that

[Dark Angel 205,099]

14 minutes ago, bluechemtrails said:

almost impossible that Jack D. didn't speak about that

 

regardless... i doubt that she would have anything negative or discriminatory to say about that, assuming that just seems odd to me, especially when we don't know with certainty that the song's even about ethel cain in the first place

 

this is the same woman who made a post celebrating the life of goddess bunny, a transgender drag queen, when she passed away, i don't think it makes any sense or is even appropriate to assume she's transphobic and would go as far as saying something like that in a song, especially when she knows that all of her stuff leaks

[fl0r1dakil0s 21,798]

12 minutes ago, bluechemtrails said:

almost impossible that Jack D. didn't speak about that

 

do you know how many ppl jack donoghue has fucked?? (he even made out with his dog.. and that's what was posted on fucking INSTAGRAM which is the most public social media outlet so i'm almost positive he has engaged in other unspeakable acts regarding that animal) (we also don't even know that he was in any sort of "official" relationship with ethel cain)  i honestly rly doubt he and lana spoke about ethel's gender in depth 

[fl0r1dakil0s 21,798]

1 hour ago, baddisease said:

for for her to ignore the firestorm around the fact her husband posted about beating up trans women - a firestorm that was noticed by even non-Lana fans - was really hurtful to me and everyone probably noticed that in the wedding thread. i ended up getting over that in the naive hope she maybe told him why that wasn't okay. so if she goes ahead and disses Ethel and brings up her trans status in any way would make me think she endorsed that kind of thing her husband posted and...I don't think I could listen to her music and not associate it with anti-trans violence, esp since I've lost a lot of friends to it.

 

the meme her husband posted is obviously fucked up but i wouldn't say it created a "firestorm".. at least among the general public. only ppl on lanaboards and diehard lana stans on twitter had loud thoughts about it. for her to publicly post about it or even implicitly mention it in an interview is the thing that would create a real firestorm. every single major gossip/pop news outlet would make it a headline.. i don't know why you are hurt by what any competent PR team would recommend she does   it's not like she personally said anything she has to address or apologize for 

[blueskiesforever 256]

25 minutes ago, fl0r1dakil0s said:

 

the meme her husband posted is obviously fucked up but i wouldn't say it created a "firestorm".. at least among the general public. only ppl on lanaboards and diehard lana stans on twitter had loud thoughts about it. for her to publicly post about it or even implicitly mention it in an interview is the thing that would create a real firestorm. every single major gossip/pop news outlet would make it a headline.. i don't know why you are hurt by what any competent PR team would recommend she does   it's not like she personally said anything she has to address or apologize for 

She’s lucky TMZ, People or any other major news outlet didn’t report it, I only found 2 articles regarding his views, one of them from Newsweek, but it’s the kind of article I guess that gets buried and not shared widely. 

 

 

https://www.newsweek.com/lana-del-rey-husband-jeremy-dufrene-variety-speech-video-1997528

 

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/oct/4/lana-del-rey-fans-rail-after-songstress-marries-al/

Edited January 13 by blueskiesforever
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[baddisease 18,193]

On 1/13/2025 at 1:56 AM, fl0r1dakil0s said:

 

the meme her husband posted is obviously fucked up but i wouldn't say it created a "firestorm".. at least among the general public. only ppl on lanaboards and diehard lana stans on twitter had loud thoughts about it. for her to publicly post about it or even implicitly mention it in an interview is the thing that would create a real firestorm. every single major gossip/pop news outlet would make it a headline.. i don't know why you are hurt by what any competent PR team would recommend she does   it's not like she personally said anything she has to address or apologize for 

 

 

The only reason it didn't get bigger than it did was bc of Lana's actions, which I do think she needs to address and apologize for. She knew people were talking about it and she decided to ask the fan pages doing that on IG to not post about it bc she knew what would happen. She knows it was fucked up or else she would not have done that. And since she knew that and was far more concerned about her and her chud husband's images than the content of his post, yes, she does have something to apologize for. 

 

A PR team wouldn't have told her to do that.

[baddisease 18,193]

If this gets merged, these things (their transphobia and QTFC) have nothing to do with each other:

 

I hate that I was reminded of QFTC. Having Textbook come out after the QFTC mess makes me feel her involvement in BLM and subsequent name dropping was only to show she wasn't the racist that people thought she was.

[fl0r1dakil0s 21,798]

6 hours ago, baddisease said:

I hate that I was reminded of QFTC. Having Textbook come out after the QFTC mess makes me feel her involvement in BLM and subsequent name dropping was only to show she wasn't the racist that people thought she was.

 

literally so what if that was the reason though lol like is it that serious?? 

[baddisease 18,193]

55 minutes ago, fl0r1dakil0s said:

 

literally so what if that was the reason though lol like is it that serious?? 

 

Is a movement for something serious serious? 

 

Yes. If she donated money or whatever, then it's not fine but I wouldn't care. But if she didn't materially support it after using it for her music and to clear her name, it is a problem. 

 

It might not be consequential in the long run but it's not something I'm fine with.

[keps2013 4,977]

yall.... why do i lowkey like melancholia's lyrics better than the final Ultraviolence? i've been playing it a lot more than UV. if it had UV's final production but the Melancholia lyrics >>>>

[Embach 48,151]

1 minute ago, keps2013 said:

yall.... why do i lowkey like melancholia's lyrics better than the final Ultraviolence? i've been playing it a lot more than UV. if it had UV's final production but the Melancholia lyrics >>>>

I do think that the lyrics feel more raw and personal. I do love UV as it is, so that's why I see them as separate songs. I love the Dan Heath's production on Melancholia as well!

[Nightcall 3,005]

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Yes and yes. Melancholia could have served as a perfect prelude for Ultraviolence. Now imagine if someone could make Melancholia transition seamlessly into UV. 

 

Sure the lyrical content is different but arguably connected in the sense that the press was not so welcoming of her writing about whatever she wanted.