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Great song! It’s kind of hypnotising? I’m so happy that we finally have TNBAR’s sister track. And I love that we have the full little “story” now.

I, you know, find this, like, you know, interview, like very, like interesting, you know? Like. Like, she has, you know, very like interesting things to say, you know? Like. Like, thank you, you know, for that like, very, you know, insightful interview about like, the new album. Like, thank you, you know?

Love it. The vocals (the notes and the vibrato in particular) remind me of The Man I Love: Especially the parts where she sings “I wanna fly”

On a personal note: I'm kind of over this whole "I am miserable, I hate fame" theme. She's been going on and on about it on almost every album so far and it's just kind of predictable at this point. Like, we get it. Not criticising how she feels, because I'm in no position to do so, and I do hope that she learns how to deal with it. But hopefully she'll find inspiration to sing about other things as well. It'd be a nice change.

The thing that made her leave in the past... Doesn't she address it in the song? We had a deal and I fucked up when I made the decision to become someone We had the one thing that no one ever had True love It's true love It makes me think that the reason she left was because she wanted "to become someone". Also, I like the idea of the flipped perspective, because it makes sense in other parts of the song where the other person experiences the world as black and blue (which is similar to the person she's singing about in Black Beauty): I never meant to hurt you baby It's so hard to be true In this world where everything's so black and blue But I agree, it's not easy deciphering her lyrics! lol

I didn't necessarily interpret it that way, but it's interesting nonetheless. To me it seems that she went to Alabama in a desperate attempt to find happiness, as she is unhappy with her current life and she used to be happy there. She's looking for something that connects her to a sense of happiness and she can't find it. It makes me sad, because I can imagine the intense desperation: her looking around her and realising that there's nothing there anymore that reminds her of those happier times: the trailer parks, the Christmas lights, but also her old boyfriend - who "introduced" her to Jesus, they have all gone. However, by "talking to Jesus" she is looking to connect with her former boyfriend again (and therefore to her old happy past) by saying "I ask Jesus to take me out of this life baby". The word baby seems to indicate that she's talking to the boyfriend, which gives the whole thing another sense of desperation. Ultimately, I don't think it's about suicide, but more about: I used to live a happy life, "I fucked up (I know that), but Jesus" and I'm unhappy, and I want to live a happy life again. Something like that idk lol

Absolutely. Besides, there is no such thing as an “objective” truth, so in that sense everyone projects or relates to things from their own perspective. Some people on here are just mean and arrogant in the sense that they believe they “understand” the true meaning behind that instagram post, but fail to realize that they’re just doing the same thing as you (understanding from their own perspective, that is). Which is an absolutely normal thing to do.

I- Good for her for speaking up, I guess. But that wall of text was all over the place. I honestly laughed out loud when I got to the last paragraph where she suddenly announced the new releases after her “rant”. But yeah, I don’t really have an opinion about whether what she said and the name dropping was “right” or not. It’s just interesting to me to have some insight into how she feels that may be helpful understanding her music (and poetry) better.

Ooh, that’s really interesting! From Wikipedia: “One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (1962) is a novel written by Ken Kesey. Set in an Oregon psychiatric hospital, the narrative serves as a study of institutional processes and the human mind as well as a critique of behaviorism and a tribute to individualistic principles.” A tribute to individualistic principles? Hello Norman Fucking Rockwell? From the NFR album trailer: “The greatest journey is the journey of the mind since this is what determines the journey of life. Have you ever had the feeling that your mind is on a journey? A voyage of discovery? That sometimes it has to make long passages on dark, uncharted seas? And at other times it discovers bright islands of beauty or of truth. Islands it will know from this day forward, that it can always steer for and find in the storm while the gales of life blow themselves out and the enormous seas of misfortune, or pain, or sorrow, or doubt subside in the calm. Well, if you'll come, I'd like to take you with me on such a voyage of the mind.“ Ugh, I want this reference to be true so bad lol

Oops, wrong wording indeed. That's not what I meant at all and I was unaware of the implication. Sorry. What I was trying to say was that she seems unable to keep a steady relationship. But it doesn't really matter what we think about how she handles her relationships anyway.

Yes yes, very busy schedule

Because she's a gemini! lol jk I don't know why. She seems restless. My guess would be that I think she's very sensitive (has high highs and low lows) and she falls in and out of love easily.

It's probably not even just him. She is 34 years old and she has had what? like 3? boyfriends in the past 12 months or so? She flaky af, doesn't know how to keep a man. So maybe we shouldn't be too hard on the cop and put our girl on a pedestal every time. She's a bad decision maker. (just an observation)

Oh definitely. As someone who also used to work in customer service, I absolutely agree. Guess I was trying to find an excuse for her behaviour, but you’re right.

I’m sure she’ll address the cancellation (on Twitter or Instagram) soon. There must be a reason why someone else issued the statement and not her. Not to be dramatic, but it makes me think something’s up; so I think we shouldn’t be too hard on her. As for the show in Amsterdam I was supposed to be going to today, I am disappointed but also kinda relieved it got cancelled? Like some of you said: same old setlist, use of backtracks, etc. Not really something exciting to look forward to, but it would’ve been nice to see her again, I guess. I wish her the best and hope she recovers from whatever she’s suffering from.