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You're going to relate it to her friends again, aren't ya?

Gives us a whole different perspective on the current situation, doesn’t it? What do you think about those particular parts you highlighted?

NFR is a dangerous thing for us stans to have - but we don’t have it Probably forced it on herself not knowing what to do with the sudden virality (?) of Video Games and subsequent fame, imo. Trying to hold onto that momentum where everything was happening for her to get things started. Shit, imagine if something like that were to happen to you. I wouldn’t know what to do lol!

Also, the fact that Lana immediately assumed the interviewer was asking her about her style musically rather than her looks just affirms that that kind of style is not the first thing she thinks of lmao. She's in it for the music. The fact that she feels that there is a disconnect between her public image and "who [she] is", to me, feels kind of disturbing. In the first place, because do we actually know "who [she] is"? It made me think of MAC, where she told us: "And who I am is a big time believer". And in the second place, imagine trying to be someone you're not. Must've been weird for her, to say the least. Hopefully she doesn't feel that way anymore and maybe we'll see reflections of that in her new music.

Oh of course! I was already overanalysing the whole thing lmao. California as a place where people rise to fame, a place of evil, maybe hell. The "hell's angels" with a double entendre, the freedom of the bikers, but also the deceptions and fake people of Hollywood. Idk lol

Not my favourite topic to discuss, but because some of you like to discuss the way she looks... I found this old interview from 2013 and what struck me was the following (and I still believe this pretty much applies to her still): I think it's admirable that she's honest about "not caring", and I feel like she gets to be herself after all this time. I guess with this album cycle it really is supposed to be all about the music, and that's fantastic. Sorry for the long quote. If you want to read the entire interview, you can find it here. (also sorry for being bitter lately, I'm currently under a lot of stress, and stress makes me mean lmao)

Damn, amazing find! That sheds a whole different light on the lyrics

Cinnamon In my teeth From your kiss Ugh my favourite snippets so far. That production is unreal!

Yeah, I get what you're saying and in this drought I guess we have resorted to discussing her "lifestyle". But we literally don't know whether her friends are the reason for the delay of the album; it's a wild assumption. If you could even call it a delay at all (considering that ThErE iS nO pLaN). When I come here to check this thread, I expect to read about NFR related stuff. I don't think that's an unrealistic expectation. If people really want to discuss things such as her friends, her drinking matcha tea or whatever, then make a thread for it. OT: A reproduction of a Norman Rockwell painting would be amazing! I'm not sure if she would actually do that, because of her own artistic vision

I think we should just accept the fact that some of the delulus on here are not in touch with their own reality and move on. Imagine getting personally frustrated (some here even get emotional ) over things that do not affect your personal life... at all. It's sad, but that's just the way they are OT (as far as that's possible with nothing happening): maybe we can talk about the album cover again? Do you think she'll be in white (as always)?

Also, I've recently made a couple of notes on every track off Honeymoon and I think the entire album is some sort of reflection on how she experiences fame. I'll try to work out my notes and post my findings in the Honeymoon thread. There's a lot of inter-referencing (?) going on in the album, which is honestly fantastic

And now it's about matcha tea. This thread, I'm- I miss Graham

I honestly have no idea what those things are lmao But if she can make those (muddy) trap beats work on an album like Honeymoon (where it seems like merely an appeal to sound current, and yet it doesn't) with grandpa Nowels and Kieron, imagine what she can do with Jack. Someone who suffers (or has suffered) feelings of depression (like Lana) producing an "introspective sad girl shit" album. This album's going to be something, I bet. Music To Cry Over Boys To

She'll make it work, I'm sure! The fact that most of the snippets and songs we've heard are mostly piano-driven only adds to the cohesiveness, imo. Like, it doesn't always have to be the lyrics. Though I think there are overlapping themes and elements in the lyrics already anyway. Just have a little faith!

Totally agree! This theme of 'the burden of fame' is also there in Cherry, 13 Beaches, and she even wrote a haiku about it for her poetry book: “Jasmine in the air the burden of fame is real never felt so clear.”

In that case, I need NFR to be vanta black: the cd itself and the cover too. No pictures, no text, nothing. Kinda like the era lol

Ad revenue. This site thrives off dramatics. How can you expect people to stay on topic when there’s nothing to discuss? Anyway... Are we going to talk about the colour of the vinyl again? Or the seasons? Lana’s friends? Are we ranking songs?

"I can see my baby swinging"

Of course not, because then the revenue from the ads would plummet since this thread is the most active one I was wondering if anyone has checked those song registration websites yet to see if there are any new registrations? If Lana is about to release something soon, something must have been registered then perhaps?

What is it this time? Is it the lack of oxygen? Is it the childhood trauma again? I swear, if you get upset over a tweet by someone you don't even know you should probably reconsider your life choices. It's the same toxicity again: bashing others based on nothing but assumptions. So get yourself checked hunties! It may indeed be the lack of oxygen; in that case I advise you to go outside more, but I'm not a medical professional, so make that phone call for yourself!

The day I saw you all unstan, you all unstan Said you will all unstan

I'm so sorry to hear that, but thank you for sharing your perspective! Though it's difficult to make such a bold claim, I think it's very convincing. If she really is referring to her mother in the line "she couldn't care less and I never cared more", that would paint such a sad and vulnerable picture. It also makes me wonder whether she has experienced psychological trauma as a child (and if that trauma has anything to do with her alcohol problems in the past). Who knows. On the other hand, I'm not sure if she would actually share such deeply personal things as she has mostly written about different kinds of troubles (heartbreak, fame, etc.). It would be such a different or deeper layer or something. Like, there is personal and there is personal, if you know what I mean? Idk

You know what? I will quote you, because I'm with you . It's definitely one of the tracks I'm looking forward to the most tbh

lol! But it's the thought that counts, right? The fact that LFL was all for the fans and now she's like: fans? What fans?

Lana on LFL: "I made my first 4 albums for me, but this one is for my fans and about where I hope we are all headed". Lana on NFR: "I sort of thought I would just put it out and it would be one of those things that I felt good about just to have out there for myself, but it's cool to be able to share it with people too" and "I selfishly wanted to put out a couple of cute songs" (Zane Lowe interview). I mean, wbk of course, but it's such a 180