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I lot of people still don’t like it tbh, I love it but it depends on your taste-the noir strings in the title track and the albums beats are gorgeous to me.

1. Ultraviolence 2. Honeymoon 3. Aka 4. Born to die paradise edition( I don’t see them as separate) 5. Blue banisters 6. Cocc 7.LFL 8. NFR

I don’t really get the discourse 💀 I’ll start by saying I am a man but I do consider myself a feminist-I don’t think you can apply very left leaning feminism to Lanas music because even she has stated or implied mutiple times she doesn’t identify with aspects of feminism besides liberation and basic equality-the cover is a homage to pin ups fgs so she does like tapping into aspects of the male gaze whether you find this reductive or not. There’s a lot of views about men being attracted to women that I just can’t wrap my head around-the people straight up objectifying her breasts on the site are in the minority and have been called out(though it doesn’t stop them) but others(I assume some may be women) are just calling her sexy which really isn’t deterring or detrimental to her. Again, I get that this could play into a larger picture or view of women but we are humans and attraction is a biological imperative so as long as it’s not a consistent focus on how she looks, I just don’t see how it involves Lana.

Yes we love charli

Do you know what-I would definitely rank in my top 20

why has this clicked for me suddenly-I didn’t like it upon debut and didn’t listen to it until today and I LOVE IT- the melodies are amazing and Halloweeny The vocal layering omg side note: did we ever get the music video version in HQ?

I don’t know if this is a joke or not because I’ve heard some wild celeb stories 💀 I’ve heard celebs throwing glasses at people.

Yeah it’s not good, I remember the discourse when I called it crap on debut- it reminds me of Johnny cash’s cover of hurt actually.

no one said that-as I said you can have your opinion but I could source hundreds of other articles citing Lanas influence- it’s really not that unpopular outside of this website. Something is more likely to be true if there are documented investigations into a subject matter-interviews were conducted for that very article dearie.

If she didn’t sound like Lana we wouldn’t have thousand’s of publications on the topic- Lana didn’t invent the vocal style but no one in the 00s was doing the low,breathy husky voice-so yes you can make the comparison. For the trend’s real genesis we probably need to look back to 2010 and the arrival of Lana Del Rey with a style that combined the delivery of dark, expressive storytelling with a sense that she might be wondering whether she’d remembered to lock the bathroom window. Between them, Lana and Lorde, who appeared a few years later, inspired a raft of major signings. https://amp.theguardian.com/music/2017/nov/11/whisperpop-why-stars-choosing-breathy-intensity-over-vocal-paint-stripping I guess you know more than journalists sourcing however Its okay for labels to seek out similar talent and mold them-it happens all the time. you can have your POV-I don’t agree however-in no way did I refute myself throughout anything I said-if anything it was consistent.

She’s also renowned for being not a very nice person to the lower “class”-lots of stories of stealing tips back after Ben gave vegas workers them 💀 Mariah is a rude diva at times but I’ve heard she’s nice overall. I get your point, I do believe overt sexuality can have a place in music though artistically.

The most obvious predecessors to lanas style are portishead, Joni Mitchell , Britney Spears, Jewel, Xanadu soundtrack(where lines were copied 💀) -which we can actually evidence. I love garbage but besides the delivery in Shirley’s voice-there’s no bearing sonic or otherwise that I can see.

I don’t see how it’s a reach at all- I don’t hear any alanis in lanas music tbh-she just doesn’t have that vengeful aggression even in UV-you oughta know has no correlation to any of lanas work. Lorde even indirectly stated she was an influence on the record-but flipped it around at that time and said it was bullsh*t to sing about topics like that hence we have royals-her lyrical sing rapping on songs like team clearly borrow from Lana- I can’t even name 1 song from 09-12 in popular music that mentions beauty queens funnily enough prior to Lana. If it’s such a reach, we wouldn’t have major articles documenting said comments and how they played into lordes music https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/how-lana-del-ray-inspired-lorde-song-royals/?amp you would have to be delusional to say solar power doesn’t have songs directly lifting from NFR-there’s whole articles about it https://amp.popbuzz.com/music/artists/lorde/news/stoned-at-the-nail-salon-lana-del-rey-wild-at-heart/

I’m sorry I know music is subjective but there’s no way even if you hate Mariah you can claim Jlo was a threat to Marian’s career in any way lyrically Mariah rivals Lana It wasn't raining yet (Yet) But it was definitely a little misty on (But it was definitely) That warm November night And my heart was pounding (Pounding) My inner voice resounding Begging me to turn away But I just had to see your face To feel alive And then you casually walked in the room And I was twisted in the web Of my desire for you (And I was twisted) My apprehension blew away I only wanted you To taste my sadness As you kissed me in the dark

I didn’t say any of this to hate on Halsey either in case anyone is offended-she’s very much her own thing now. if we’re talking sky-she did have similar photoshoots but I wouldn’t say she was a copy @letterblue

I’m not going to @ but some of you are going over the top- you can perform the same genre without there being very obvious structural similarities- if you had read the post Lana clearly wasn’t calling lorde a “whore”. I like a lot of Lordes music so I am being objective as possible here- yes I meant Halsey with Lana- the borrowing of biggie smalls and nirvana line comes to mind along with NA/New americana You played me Biggie Smalls, and then my first Nirvana song Raised on Biggie and Nirvana her sudden “reading” of the great gatsby and Lolita at age 7-https://www.billboard.com/music/pop/halsey-the-weeknd-drugs-badlands-billboard-feature-6671107/amp/

I love doing lyrical analysis on that song-the fact she flickers between being lorde/the music industry in the song “I’m a dragon, you’re a whore don’t even know what you’re good for” then to Lana “mimicking mes a fucking bore to me babe” epic tbh.

We really don’t talk enough how about this, though lana handled the situation very immaturely considering lorde was a teen-some of this borders on plagiarism more than Halsey even+ the constant label pr that lorde was better than Lana

My controversial opinion is that Lana is this generations Madonna influence wise- no one is touching her from the 10s in this regard-man or woman alike- we’ve got articles of Jamaican reggae artists citing her as their biggest influence fgs. there would be no Billie, no Lorde, no Taylor-hell who knows if charli xcx would be as successful fanbase wise without this forum. All of these artists would likely still exist but their career directions would be vastly different-she’s helped shape the industry.

you two need to listen to early lorde more- she obviously was inspired lyrically and sonically during PH- “Baby be the class clown I’ll be the beauty queen” the hip hop beats and low,husky vocals. Royals even being inspired by national anthem lyrics-albeit subverted to mock those who flaunt wealth. solar power being tropical NFR aswell fits in.

Watercolour eaYesss

I actually liked watercolour eyes- it’s not amazing but I think it’s miles better than ocean

Not this Florida kilos slander All these songs are so fun

I wonder if we will get any Britney Del Rey vocals on the record-the last time she did it was for kilos chorus

Is she shading Sam 💀 https://www.instagram.com/p/CmaWlhSLOjC/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link