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For sure and I'm concerned too, I was not pleased to see his name on the cover, believe me I am very anti-religion lol but I also am curious to see what her intention is and I trust/hope that she has a reason for including it.

Speculating on its significance on the record is not the same thing as defending it. We have no idea what it is yet so it's interesting to discuss different possibilities of what its purpose will be. I'm certainly not thrilled about the idea of a pastor's sermon, but I believe that Lana has a vision for the record and didn't throw it on to preach at us, because that is not her style at all.

I actually think Tropico was quite critical of it. For me she was expressing how it was unfair for Eve to be condemned for taking a bite of the apple and that it wasn't her fault that the temptation was put in front of her. She even alludes to it again in Paradise is Very Fragile. She also tells us in I Talk To Jesus only to read the red, which are the words of Jesus. I think she's obviously religious and spiritual but I don't think she follows religion blindly and is aware of the negatives too.

Maybe the interlude is the pastor's sermon intercut with Lana talking to him and asking questions but he just keeps going on with his sermon like he can't hear her at all

But the whore song comes first

The pastor's sermon better not be condemning our American Whore

The fact that people are also discussing and re-discovering the actual tunnel thanks to Lana is so beautiful. She's given new life to a hidden treasure that we won't forget now.

every single line slaps so hard like wow

I wonder if Santa knows that he's taking a picture with Lana Del Rey

I really thought we'd be getting the tracklist yesterday

Boz confirmed it's 2

This isn't true at all. Her numbers are bigger than ever and the buzz for her is consistently huge, and people for the most part have moved on from all her controversies. This album is going to be massive for her. If anything she's becoming less niche and widening her audience as she's also appealing to an older crowd that may have unfairly dismissed her as depressing or dark before. She's speaking to the soul so deeply lately and it is resonating with a lot of people as her themes are so universal and relatable.

Caroline supporting Lana

I still really hope there's a song called Del Norte County on the tracklist

don't forget me like the tunnel under ocean boulevard

The fact that she says fuck me to death so many times in such a sad thoughtful song and makes it work is wild

American Whore is coming

This is so beautiful I'm sure she does know that her artistry won't be forgotten but she's had so much hate and misunderstanding thrown her way that there must also be concern that she'll be remembered for unfair reasons, and she really cares about ensuring that her legacy ends up being what she knows it to be. The way the song ends with the choir still singing her song after she's gone is so powerful, like a mirror to her music living long past her.

People have had a long history here of very rudely describing what they think of Lana's music and it's just weird to me, especially on a forum dedicated to her. I can't imagine being her and reading some of the things people feel comfortable saying here. Anyways, it's definitely your right to not like the song, I am just expressing the depth and power that I see. I don't see anything flat or redundant in this song at all.

I really wish A&W was still called American Whore I'm sooo excited for that song, I love how basically everyone has claimed it LOL

Everyone's entitled to their opinions but some people use really rude language to describe something that Lana clearly poured her heart into and is touching a lot of people. Those who don't like it don't have to, but I'd recommend taking more time to try and connect with the song and understand what she's saying. Lana's not looking to make a quick pop song, she's speaking to the soul and delivering a very poignant message that anyone could relate to if they open themselves up to the meaning. If you still don't like it, that's fine but to pretend that your limited effort to connect with something is the gospel truth and everybody else is overhyped and misguided is just ridiculous.

I'm so grateful that Lana doesn't care about appeasing those with poor taste and instead is building such a rich catalogue of ART, this song is the most perfect thing she could have released right now, and it's pretty clear that she has some surprises waiting for us on this record. We're going for a ride.

The sigh of relief at the beginning makes me worried for The Grants

How someone could think that something as vulnerable and heavy as this song is Lana limiting herself to her comfort zone is beyond me

OMGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!! I finally got to listen and I am completely floored, it's been ten times in a row and it's so clearly an absolute masterpiece, I feel so bad for the people who aren't hearing what the rest of us are. The lyrics are truly phenomenal, some of her best ever. Once you realize the significance of the tunnel under Ocean Blvd it's just devastating, yet she still manages to weave in this warmth and catchiness throughout. This song is an obvious classic already, people will be moved by this song and still singing along in 100 years. It's as timeless as anything she's ever done, with such a deep and heavy weight to it that I'm honestly nervous for what this album is going to bring.