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Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
LanaFlowers replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
Yup. Like, Elizabeth was a teenage alcoholic who sneaked around to do all kinds of wild shit with her friends, and dated sketchy dudes who should be in jail just for dating her. Elizabeth was a Britney Spears, Biggie Smalls and Elvis superfan obsessed with becoming just as famous herself. Elizabeth was a wannabe starlet, a diva in the making, dazzled by Hollywood's glamour. So maybe this is Betsy or some shit -
Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
LanaFlowers replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
Here's the thing though. You could be blacklisted. Dropped from labels & managers, not given any promo, not invited to events, even shunned by fellow artists. Your casual fans could forget you, and you could stop gaining new ones. That kind of fame, is indeed fleeting. You need to be supported by the industry to be a superstar. But to be moderately famous, all you need is a solid fanbase. And Lana has it. She has thousands of hopelessly devoted stans who, as someone here put it, would eat her hot shit if she threw it at them. She could switch to country, trap, she could go full Hillsong and start singing gospel music. They'd still go crazy over her. She'd still be on the receiving end of so much adoration. I don't think she cares about being a superstar anymore, and she's shown that quite clearly. She might enjoy having a loyal following, and she definitely enjoys being famous enough to have famous friends, hanging out with people she used to only see on TV. I can't see her ever going back to her pre-fame obscurity. Her music will always get more attention and praise than it did back then, and I think that might be enough for her. She will always be famous, in some way. -
Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
LanaFlowers replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
Like, I don't *want* to be prejudiced. I have so many friends who live in LA and they're just regular people. Moving there doesn't mean you have to morph into a wheat grass fueled zombie. It's just sad. -
Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
LanaFlowers replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
When she first rose to prominence most critics trashed her and even the general public relentlessly made fun of her for being "fake"; a caricature, a fictional character created by label executives. And I think, as a response to that onslaught, her fanbase still rushes to staunchly defend her authenticity and proclaim her auto-determination if they ever come into question. I will admit that at first I was one of the people who saw her as a ditzy bimbo who got a sad girl makeover like the Barbie doll in Katy Perry's You're So Gay video, nothing more than an industry pawn, no different than the rest of them. But the more I learned about her, the more I changed my mind, and at some point came to think of her as almost wholly original. An artist who has her idols and her inspirations, but still became who she is on her own. Years later, I've reached the conclusion that the truth is a bit more complicated than that. It's not black and white, either/or... She's a groupie incognito posing as a real singer, whose life imitates art. She's a loyal follower of a cult leader. She has borrowed (and lied). I remember watching her old trailer park interview where she's asked about her "Hawaiian rockabilly glam" style (or sth); she answered she got the idea from an old boyfriend. We know even the original idea for her stage name (Lana Ray) may have come from Arthur Lynn. Her chameleon soul is the way she falls in love with concepts, lifestyles & people, gets attached to them and tries to be like them. She is very easily influenced, especially when she's vulnerable. We're really seeing it now, with her being a dye job away from looking *exactly* like all her friends, but I think it's always been this way, even if it was more subtle. Just my two cents. -
Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
LanaFlowers replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
Lowkey horrified by these comments... Jokes aside, it feels so wrong to constantly harass her family for info or whatever. I see it on her dad's posts too, like they're people too with their own lives that don't revolve around Lana -
Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
LanaFlowers replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
It's the sun. And the heat. LA is diet hell -
Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
LanaFlowers replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
I try to refrain from constantly mentioning her age because I don't want people to think I'm being ageist, when I'm far from that. I've always found the ageism in this industry -and society in general- disgusting, and I've also always had significantly older friends & partners. I'm not the kind of person who thinks 30 is some kind of advanced age, and anyone over 35 is old as shit. The last thing I want is to come off as a dumb bitch who criticizes the linear passage of time lol. But I'm someone who's big on introspection, self-help, self-improvement, spiritual growth and constant personal progress. A HUGE pet peeve of mine is people who refuse to grow up; that's when you start growing old. The line about "growing down" in her latest poem was probably intended to seem poetically cutesy, but it made me so sad, precisely for this reason. Childishness is not a cute look on anyone who isn't a child. I can't fathom being 3-fucking-4 and acting like that. I'm not going to lie. I freaked out when I found my first grey hair. When I spotted the first wrinkle. It hurts my soul that my health is deteriorating day by day. But it gives me comfort, that I'm a better person than I was a year, or even a month ago. That I've learned new lessons, hard lessons that I was too weak to handle before. Aging is not fun. But wisdom gives you comfort. Growing old is like sinking into quicksand. But if you never stop growing up, life is like an endless journey. If you keep moving forward, it doesn't feel like you're slowly decaying. Youth is drive. Ambition. The desire to keep rising. It's not mindless self-infantilization and the perpetuation of the same old self-destructive shit you've been on since you were an actual kid. I'm so sick of adult babies. Especially gifted people who are doing themselves a tragic disservice, like Lana. I've seen way too many brilliant people throw their lives away because they refused to grow the fuck up. Fame exacerbates that immensely. Being surrounded by yes men and enablers who let you get away with everything is unbelievably destructive. I can only hope she wakes up...soon. (You know, I'm glad I got this out of me too lol ) -
Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
LanaFlowers replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
i see the tea is SCALDING HOT today miss del rey called THE FUCK out lmaoo p.s. i love you but this should not have been one paragraph <3 -
Thinking about him makes me want to fucking die. We all wasted so much time on him. He didn't deserve any of the love and life he sucked out of us. A few of us talk, another of his exes has become a close friend of mine actually. It's so aggravating how much we're alike. She jokes that I was the "newer, upgraded version" I hate this man
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Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
LanaFlowers replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
*stares in December 31st 2019* -
Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
LanaFlowers replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
married...to who? Hillsong Jesus? -
Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
LanaFlowers replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
we found out there's no release date and the album is likely not finished -
A letter from my ex's ex wife. Fun. Super fun. I hate my life
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Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
LanaFlowers replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
So like 95% of what I say is sarcasm, but I'm being completely serious here. This is fucking good. I love it <3 -
Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
LanaFlowers replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
We take walks in parks and around golf courses It’s practically Elizabethan without the horses We’re not in Bath but it feels like we are Instead of carriages we have tesla mom cars with Lamborghini doors with no kids yet in the back seat – the world still stretched out in front of us like a carpet of wildflowers. A Northern California super bloom We have one thing in common we grew up too soon now it’s time to grow down down to the moon down to the sun down into June To plant tiny flowers together Tulum LA Topanga Ojai and point dume let’s do it all together this afternoon -
I think she looks really pretty in this one! In the last pic she posted she looked a bit...unfortunate, but I think she looks cute here
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Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
LanaFlowers replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
oh she could, just not for lana lol -
Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
LanaFlowers replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
Agree with you 100% -it's even worse on instagram. Just hordes of Chris Crocker wannabes screeching "leave lana alone" as if she actually knows what is being said, or cares about it. Homegirl posts and ghosts. She turns the comments off and all is well. But I get it, she follows some of these fan accounts and they're probably scared to death she'll unfollow if she sees anything other than blind, fervent support of her every action. I always saw this whole "stanning" thing as a joke, but I guess some people are really feeling it. They really do idolize her, which is beyond baffling. You can appreciate, support, and even love someone, without putting them on a pedestal. Those rose colored glasses never did anyone any good -
Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
LanaFlowers replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
I actually envy you, I wish I could listen to some of her old songs for the first time...Start with AKA, Sirens is a bit of an acquired taste -
Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
LanaFlowers replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
^this -
Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
LanaFlowers replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
I feel you @ but I actually agree with @@cloverhoney on this one. I appreciate her retrospective tracks like Heroin which mention her past, but it would be weird for her to still be singing about trailer parks and being an escort. She couldn't stay a wide eyed starlet forever. What I expect is a follow up to UV & HM. Some sort of natural progression. And I think NFR is going to be just that. From what we've heard so far I can tell I'm going to like it. -
Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
LanaFlowers replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
It would be nice to get a decent video again but you're only setting yourself up for disappointment if you actually expect anything other/better than that walmart parking lot embarrassment -
Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
LanaFlowers replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
I really wasn't joking when I said I expect the album to come out next Fall. June WHOMST lmao