Many Tears Ago

"de mortuis nil nisi bosnum."
 
Just wanted to add my two cents on the topic. It's very tragic how Peep died, and it's really disheartening to read some of the comments in this thread. Although Peep would often post videos or speak of his drug use, I definitely don't think it was meant to "glorify" drugs. He wasn't doing them just because he thought it was "cool." He was truly depressed and dependent on his pills. I see it as an obvious cry for help. Coming from someone who has lost friends to drug use, he showed all the same signs. He just wanted help, but didn't know how to ask for it. If you read some of his instagram captions that were posted just 2 days ago, they're also eerie cries for help.
 
"When I die You'll love me"
 
"I just wana be everybody's everything I want too much from people but then I don't want anything from them at the same time u feel me I don't let people help me but I need help but not when I have my pills but that's temporary one day maybe I won't die young and I'll be happy? What is happy I always have happiness for like 10 seconds and then it's gone. I'm getting so tired of this"
 
"I feel emptyyyyyyyyyyyyyy"
 
Underlined some segments of the second quote that make it extra eerie. He knew he needed help. He didn't want to die young. Yet, he knew it was coming. So evident if you read his song lyrics, especially the opening line of 'The Way I See Things' - "I got a feeling that I'm not gonna be here for next year, so let's laugh a little before I'm gone."
Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if this was ruled as a suicide. But, there's this rumour going around that a fan gave him laced pills that led to his overdose. The fan met him after the show, gave him the pills, and then was bragging to her Twitter group chats that they "really fucked him up" and he was "passed out" because of them. She left all the group chats & deactivated her twitter account after she learned he was dead. Nothing is confirmed though, of course. Either way, his death is super tragic. He knew he needed help, yet no one would help him. You can really see his decline just within the past few days on his instagram. The most chilling video has now been deleted from his instagram, most likely by request of someone on his team, where he stated, "I just took 6 Xanax and I was lit. I'm good. I'm not sick."
 
 
All this aside, my heart goes out to everyone affected by his death. I never really knew of him, I had only heard a few songs, but just a little over a week ago when I was in ATL to see Poppy, he was performing at the same venue in a larger room. After Poppy's show, my friend and I were chatting outside the venue for 2 hours. Just as we were hopping in an Uber to leave, Lil Peep came outside the venue to greet fans. As we were driving away, my friend and I shouted at him and he turned to us and smiled & waved. He seemed like a pretty cool guy. RIP.

Okay I just listened to his music and watched a few of his interviews. His songs are very melodious. He was hot too
 
Not the time guys :/ @Valerie @

me realizing lust for life had so much potential but lana robbed it of that by going trap .

the whole lust for life album

delete it fat 

I've been watching the love music video and I thought I really loved it at first, but now every time I watch it, it makes me cringe. I hate all the extras in the video. It almost looks like a commercial for some generic product aimed at young people. This going to sound really pretentious but the extras almost look too normal. I guess they lack the coolness that a lot the people lana features in her videos. Even her home made ones, which where usually just random clips of people. I think Lana has in general lost a lot of what made her so unique and kitsch almost. I hate to say I'm bored with Lana. 
 
 
I hate how bitchy this post id yikes :-)

I stopped listening to most of her unreleased stuff. The use of aave, themes of female objectification, and subtle pedophilia were enough for me to never go back!

@Elle can you get @LanasPhilosophy out of my Christian minecraft server

you are mad screaming that your presdient is immature.... you never met him .. u should not be analyzing his persoanlity......... its a waste of your energy..... tall u do is judge ppl but u get offended when u r judged

Omg a right wing Graham. Schizophrenia is that bitch!

So you can't answer the fact that Barrie follows and interacts with a bunch of underage female Lana fans & even posts kisses and approving messages on videos of these underage girls sucking on their fingers seductively. Yet you get offended over Harvey's name lmao! The hypocrisy lives on. Not sure how disapproving of this makes me a single white male, but I guess that's your attempt at diverting the convo again?
They're hypocrites, plain and simple. It's why LaMartine openly admitted she will not quote and answer everything I wrote and it's why salvatore keeps dodging the question about Barrie meanwhile acting like he's in hysterics over Harvey being mentioned in Cola as well as my first post to him which he conveniently dodged too. They don't give a shit about these girls that were abused by Harvey. They only pretend to care so they're not looked upon as enabling assholes and get shunned, and that's exactly why Lana is appeasing to this as well.

Lmao *you* don't find it interesting to talk about. Okay, but why doesn't Lana apologize? Murder is murder and that song is obviously glamourizing the manson crimes.  
You're so in bed with this oversensitive, infantilizing rhetoric I don't know why I'm going to bother, but here goes.
 
Your argument is objectively wrong to me because it works on the surmisation that Cola is outwardly about Harvey when it isn't, and nothing in the song points to it being that way. Perhaps you weren't around back then or don't remember, but Lana was very open about the song being based on a comment Barrie James O'Neil made to her in private at the time. This in of itself doesn't disprove your idea, but why would she juxtapose predatorial behavior, or let alone Harvey Weinstein in a song with something that a boyfriend said to her?? Honestly, except for the chorus, I don't believe the song's got anything to do with Barrie but let's be very clear that no matter what Lana says it is about a relationship she experienced herself. The older man theme is based on a specific person who Lana knew when she was young, there's plenty of evidence to support that. Not just that, Lana had the opportunity to say "Yes this song is about Harvey" when she was asked about it during the interview, but she didn't. She said it was about a "Harvey type" character. Not Harvey. So if we're going to start censoring by association alone to save anyone any hurt feelings, why doesn't Lana censor half of her work then? The older man theme is overarching.
Censorship for the sake of censorship alone is never a good thing. Lana can do whatever she pleases obviously, and I know her intentions are good but it doesn't change the fact that she's adding to this culture of infatalizing censorship that is intellectually dishonest and literally panders to the lowest common denominator. Literally the name Harvey is mentioned once in the bridge and it's during a goddamn Beatles reference, anyone who's discomforted by that line due to recent events with Harvey Weinstein, assault victim or not, needs to pull their pants up and move along.
 
BTW, is the song about Harvey to you or does it simply imply a person like him? You seem to have said it's both.

I really don't know why LDR makes it so hard on herself or Cola. While it was proper and thoughtful for her to support the women who are voicing concern and outrage about Harvey, she can (truthfully) say the song is 4+ years before the fact of the controversy and that she didn't know about the scope of the problem with regards to Harvey (perhaps even truthfully). This means that the usual fiction disclaimer can be applied to her work (i.e., .. any resemblance to actual persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental). However, regardlesss of whether she knew about Harvey's scope, the fiction disclaimer can still be applied, imo, because its function is to allow art to imitate life (or make us think about life) while protecting the artist's right to do so (i.e., without being attacked legally). However, the song is also really complicated with respect to supporting any specific Harvey reference, other than phonemes in the studio/sung performance. The "official lyrics", which I'm taking to be the liner notes on my physical Paradise copy, don't refer to him. Also the song is not just about a Harvey character but a Cola character, who is arguably in a consensual (maybe counter-predatory?) relationship with the Harvey character. Furthermore, the diamond imagery isn't related to Harvey's alleged MO for getting sexual favors (promises of fame, threats of blacklisting). So this is not the Harvey F. Weinstein situation that we are currently outraged about. The only other thing worth opining is that given everything she said in the interview about the song (including how she said it), it seems unlikely (to me) Weinstein tried anything specifically with her. 
 
Retiring Cola "from the catalog"?  I'll believe that when it's pulled from spotify (and I'll also be checking to see if the streams start climbing on it). I can see her pulling it from live, though, especially if it makes her sad now to sing it.

Omg a right wing Graham. Schizophrenia is that bitch!