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I never got into it either! Now that I think of it, I can't really think of how it sounds which makes me wonder if I REALLY listened to it, but I know I have it... edit: oh wait within a milisecond I knew which one it was and realized I always skip it so I didn't even put it on my phone playlist. edit: ok I will say it is pretty good, I'm just usually not feeling its vibe. and science and regret just came on and now the feels....

People stan for Lucy? I thought it was a throwaway track. Tbh the only songs on 14 I recall easily are Neon Fashion, Holiday Stunners, Franceskaar, Watch the Rain, and Leave Me.

I don't really see anything special enough to "stan" (yet) but Mine is cute and catchy!

I accept girl. I'm gonna make a badass one. Just give me some time!

This girl who randomly released her first song with collaborators like Charli XCX and Diplo. Look up "Octahate". I've heard it in Starbucks before.

That may be the other thing that bothers me about Sucker... It's not just her second album, according to her it's her "BEST" music yet, and if I disagree I clearly just "don't get it"... Ummm musically I just think True Romance is a lot more original, emotional, multi-dimensional and creative... Sorry Charli?

Don't do it lol. I'm going to gov ball too!! I've seen her 4 times already, I honestly could pass on seeing her again even at gov ball.. But she is always really fun live! I find it kind of random that she's touring with Bleachers or whatever, when she's been marketing herself as a pop star. This seems way more "indie". Maybe she's going there again...

@@BLONDECORE everyone knows it was you now, you better have a damn good lawyer!

Do yall know this is a cover of a song by Blood Orange?

Yeah Pearl's post-show attitude seems kind of like she's not really into the whole thing which makes it seem unlikely she will win.. Also lets keep in mind Trixie! The returning queens always seem to go home the same episode they are brought back lol, but Trixie is the only returning queen who actually deserves to come back. Also I think Katya is more likely to make top 3 than Ginger. I don't get why people see it so much for her. Her look just isn't there... I don't see her as top 3 material at all (but there's always that one girl who doesn't deserve to be there... Alexis, Phiphi, roxxy, kind of Courtney but she deserves top 3 more than those others)

Ok yeah I don't think he's going to win but I totally see him being the Adore of this season. Cute, charismatic, and will make top 3 (hopefully) but will lose to a more experienced and polished queen (Katya? I don't even know...)

Can someone send me Hot Rod then? I've never heard of it

@@SitarHero and @@PrettyBaby Thank you for reading my super long thesis on Charli XCX's career lol... (what am I doing with my time ) As for the next move.... If she wants a shot at getting back her artistic integrity and maybe some public interest, she should try her best with whatever is left in the budget to make Body of My Own happen... It's not a safe song, but she's already tried those and they didn't work. It's feminist, punk, and unlike anything out there right now. She needs an identity, her image is so confusing right now.

Even though I wanted to think that gothli was the "real Charli", I can totally see where she's coming from saying it was her "trying to be cool". I get the feeling the whole aesthetic was partly a marketing thing. Charli clearly isn't actually "goth" in any way, it was just a style that got her a unique identity in the pop market and with the whole tumblr crowd. I believe Charli when she talks about how she would've rather made this punk pop type album, but I think a lot of her more creative ideas were probably shut down by her label. As much as I want to think of Charli as an independent artist who does whatever she wants, we have to keep in mind that she's signed to a major record label who expects her music to sell. And she's kind of in a pit... After Break the Rules flopped they should've realized that the pop-rock thing wasn't really selling.. And getting Rita Ora for Doing It didn't make any sense because Rita Ora doesn't even have a name for herself. Black Widow did well because Iggy was on it, not Rita. Sorry, this has kind of turned into a mini rant/analysis of the sinking ship that is Sucker (as far as commercial success goes) inspired by a thread I saw on ATRL asking why Charli isn't taking off or being talked about even though she's getting nonstop promo and seemingly being forced down the public's throat. Besides the major errors in singles/marketing (Famous would've done 10x better if they would've just made it a video of her at a house party looking sexy and breaking shit, and I would've enjoyed it more) I think the other reason it's not quite happening for Charli beyond features and a niche fanbase is that she doesn't really try to be relatable. She is who she is and I like her personality, but she doesn't come off as super friendly, charismatic, or inspiring like the big pop girls. And her claims that she's changing pop music do come off as pretentious, because there's nothing very original about most of Sucker so far... I mean, the general public's introductions to her were Fancy and Boom Clap... And then she tried to make Break the Rules happen. Those 3 songs are so different, I'm sure the general public has no idea what her identity is. She doesn't seem to really have one.

Yaaaaas Charli, you look so good!!!

Best album of 2014? That does not sound like a biased opinion at all <<

At the end of the day, Sucker isn't the worst thing that's ever happened. There's some good songs on it. She just hyped it up WAAAAY too much and described it as something it's not (at least not anymore. I get the feeling the record underwent a lot of changes due to label pressure after she got big with Boom Clap)

On Disconnect: love the lyrics and the funky verses, but the chorus is SOOOO underwhelming... I was just like "that's it?"

I heard that but I wasn't sure who said it or who they were talking about... I take it Jaidyn because of her skirt?

I did watch untucked but what did Max say that you are refering to?

I was going to make a thread for the band omg!! I saw this a few weeks ago and was so into the song and got really into the artist and have been planning to make a thread but kept putting it off!! Also im so glad Fame didn't go home omg! The spoiler Andrew posted scared me... Also lol it's so obviously Trixie coming back.

Same on the maybe Webster one! I entered to possibly win tickets so we will see...

So excited to see her at Governors ball in two months! Hoping by then she's pretty comfortable with the Froot songs... NGL she doesn't sound as good in that video as she sounded when I've seen her live, but she just started performing again.

Black Roses gets so much hate but it's definitely in my top 5... It would be such a strong song if there were another verse or something. It falls victim (no pun intended) to the same end of song treatment as How Can I where it literally just repeats itself for the last minute of the song and everybody is over it. But I love the production, the lyrics, the melody, and just everything about it except that it needs something extra in the second half.

Glow, Velvet Dreaming, and Forgiveness are amazing, but nothing shouldve replaced Black Roses... How dare you compare it to Cloud Aura!